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    YEAH! Thanks Mut@t@ for defending Kiba like that! And I agree with the point on people underestimating the Kyuubi chakra....Look at the fight with Neji

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    3) Rock Lee doesn't have the strongest taijutsu. Neji does. In fact it was brought up multiple times that Lee's taijutsu is extremely low-level. It's only his speed and strength (from all his training) that makes him so good.
    Sorry dude but that was said several times in FLASHBACKS. Lee is now the best at Taijutsu because of his Lotus techniques which are indeed Taijutsu. Neji just has his great Tenketsu and his internal organ attacks, not sure if this is considered Tai but still Lotus is better.



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    When ever u talk about shikamaru remember that if you were going to konaha to get a body gaurd would you want a samrt ninja that knows what he is doing like shikamaru or a recless ninja like naruto or neji?

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    -Haku did not underestimate his oppnent or overestimated his own jutsu , i think Haku was just too soft... He was just a Skilled and kind guy ...

    -Kiba is faster and stronger than Naruto , his scout abilities are as effective as a byakugan ...
    There is no way Naruto can beat Kiba if he weren't that confused.

    Sasuke vs ??? , I think Sasuke is just too Self Confident...
    That can happen
    "Oh i am from the Uchiha Clan there is no way i can lose to this guy ..."
    *Bam* , While he thought so higly of him, his opponent kick his face with all he got ... 1 min later Kakashi and Naruto come to rescue Sasuke.
    -Sasuke : You are late Sensei
    -Kakashi and Naruto : Don't worry i won't let anyone in my team die *With the Nice guy pose* [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

    -Sharingan can copy and produce illusion (See Zabuza Mizu Bunshin) the user understand the ennemy's Ninjutsu in a flash .However Sharingan vs Taijutsu is very bad combination (as Lee said) i don''t think Sasuke can Copy "Konoha Senpu" as easily as water clone .

    -Kaiten vs Chidori ? Kaiten will win against Chidori because it can deflect everything (Shuriken, kicks , even Naruto/Kyuubi's Punch in the exam...)

    -Are the Groups Balanced ? Everyone think about the skill of each genins .. ok that matter but i think the teams got a "role"; N°7 is an amazing Task Force , [Hinata Kiba Shino] an effetive Scout team ,
    [Ino-Shika-Chou] They can be the "brain" of any mission (while Shika think about the options Ino and Chou cover him). And do not forget , Shinji Ikari Said "Life is just unfair ..." i think that's true...
    There is one way that grade Naruto's genins : Taijutsu , Ninjutsu , Genjutsu , Special , Chakra .

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    Originally posted by: Inazuma Kami
    -Haku did not underestimate his oppnent or overestimated his own jutsu , i think Haku was just too soft... He was just a Skilled and kind guy ...

    -Kiba is faster and stronger than Naruto , his scout abilities are as effective as a byakugan ...
    There is no way Naruto can beat Kiba if he weren't that confused.

    Sasuke vs ??? , I think Sasuke is just too Self Confident...
    That can happen
    "Oh i am from the Uchiha Clan there is no way i can lose to this guy ..."
    *Bam* , While he thought so higly of him, his opponent kick his face with all he got ... 1 min later Kakashi and Naruto come to rescue Sasuke.
    -Sasuke : You are late Sensei
    -Kakashi and Naruto : Don't worry i won't let anyone in my team die *With the Nice guy pose* [img][/img]

    -Sharingan can copy and produce illusion (See Zabuza Mizu Bunshin) the user understand the ennemy's Ninjutsu in a flash .However Sharingan vs Taijutsu is very bad combination (as Lee said) i don''t think Sasuke can Copy "Konoha Senpu" as easily as water clone .

    -Kaiten vs Chidori ? Kaiten will win against Chidori because it can deflect everything (Shuriken, kicks , even Naruto/Kyuubi's Punch in the exam...)

    -Are the Groups Balanced ? Everyone think about the skill of each genins .. ok that matter but i think the teams got a "role"; N°7 is an amazing Task Force , [Hinata Kiba Shino] an effetive Scout team ,
    [Ino-Shika-Chou] They can be the "brain" of any mission (while Shika think about the options Ino and Chou cover him). And do not forget , Shinji Ikari Said "Life is just unfair ..." i think that's true...
    There is one way that grade Naruto's genins : Taijutsu , Ninjutsu , Genjutsu , Special , Chakra .

    Oh i forgot one thing , Enjoy this Anime [img][/img]
    Ok well theres a couple of things thats wrong in here.

    1)Kiba's "scout" abilities are FAR FAR away from Byakugan.

    2)Sasuke's not very self confident, just daring, like Neji. and like Naruto is now. He'll try to defeat someone, he won't just run away, he was like this from the very first time he fought.

    3)Sasuke can't copy Konoha Senpu. The only reason Sasuke's fighting style was the same as Lee's was because he trained for a month to learn it. And when sasuke did the Lion Combo on that one guy in the pre-liminaries, he had to use Taijutsu because of the cursed seal so he just used Lee's advanced Tai that he had already seen. There was no copyage going on there.

    4)And Special is Ninjutsu, I bet your thinking of Chidori and Rasengan when you say special.

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    taijutsu is not bad against the sharingan as long as the sharingan user is equally fast or faster.
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    Originally posted by: Mut@t@
    taijutsu is not bad against the sharingan as long as the sharingan user is equally fast or faster.
    Did you contradict yourself mut@t@?

  8. #68

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    you need to remember that naruto also "mimiced" lee's taijutsu like sasuke the suringun cant copy an ability only the movement of seals or else everyone in the uchiha clan would be just as capable and as strong as each other.

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    Good point I had completely forgot about naruto's Naruto Renda! So theres more proof that Sharingan doesnt copy Taijutsu

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    yeah.
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    Originally posted by: Kagemane_no_Jutsu
    Originally posted by: Mut@t@
    taijutsu is not bad against the sharingan as long as the sharingan user is equally fast or faster.
    Did you contradict yourself mut@t@?
    i don't get it. you must see a grammatical error in my sentence. however, i don't. the only mistake i see is that i didn't really complete my sentence... i could've added 'as the taijutsu user' at the end but that wouldn't really make that big of a difference. someone point it out my error for me.

    Originally posted by: Kagemane_no_Jutsu
    Good point I had completely forgot about naruto's Naruto Renda! So theres more proof that Sharingan doesnt copy Taijutsu
    what? are you kidding me? it specifically says that sharingan can copy the opponent's technique once you see them.
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    The Sharingan really doesnt copy anything(pure theory(I know im gonna get bashed for this but I dont care)) it more or less just makes a little video in the persons brain that they can rewind fastforward and pause to analyze what the person does, then the S. user just mimics it, thats all it does IMO, Sasuke just mimiced what lee did(with his own twist) he didnt copy anything

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    Sasuke was copying the guys movements during the written test.

  14. #74

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    Sharingan allows one to see how a move is done. It's not like a mental photocopy machine. Think of it this way, you can learn a piece of music by hearing it (hard) or reading it off of sheet music (much easier), But in order to be a technique specialist like Kakashi, you need a very good memory, which by the way, is what I think is what makes Kakashi special, a near photographic memory. So, despite the fact that Sauske was able to copy the guy's pencil movements during the chuunin written exam, I doubt that the strokes have been permanently etched in his mind. For someone with a good short term memory, they're probably able to duplicate it during battle, but forget it after the battle.

    Now before anyone flames me saying that I have no proof. They call Kakashi the copy ninja, and not the guy who stole a sharingan eye ninja. Now if the Sharingan allows for an automatic mental dump into memory, Kakashi wouldn't be considered all that special, just a Uchiha wannabe. As for Itachi, he doesn't necessarily need to know a thousand Jitsu's to be more powerful than Kakashi. He could just know a handful of really powerful jitsus, be faster, stronger, have more stamina and more chakra. Jitsu count isn't all that determines how storng a ninja is, despite what Orochimaru thinks.

    As for Taijitsu and Sharingan. The Sharingan doesn't provide any benefit in terms of seeing how taijitsu works because Taijtisu is purely physical, which means that what you see is what you get (no hand seals, no molding of chakra). And while you know how the move works, you can't do it because you're phyically not capable of pushing yourself to those limits. For instance, I can see the guys in the olympics run a sub 10 second 100 meter race. But I still can't do it.


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    nice to see that people are with me on this whole "kiba not being weak" argument

    watch the episode where sharingan is explained for the first time
    its said that it can analyze all forms of ninjutsu, genjutsu, AND taijutsu

    im also pretty sure that the sharingan does in fact etch the jutsu into the person's mind, if they so choose. but how effecient it is at storing the info all depends on the level of the sharingan. Sasuke's prolly sucks at copying, therefore he hasnt copied very many jutsus. But for kakashi to know over 1000 jutsus.....he'd have to have a pretty damn photographic memory.

    everyone in the show says that the sharingan allows the user to copy jutsus......this leads me to believe that the secret to kakashi having so many techniques is the sharingan, not his memory
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    Kiba isn't weak.
    And Neji is the strongest of all, unless Naruto uses his Kyuubi plot device powers. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

    Don't argue with facts kiddies. ^_^

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    Originally posted by: Mut@t@
    Originally posted by: Kagemane_no_Jutsu
    Originally posted by: Mut@t@
    taijutsu is not bad against the sharingan as long as the sharingan user is equally fast or faster.
    Did you contradict yourself mut@t@?
    i don't get it. you must see a grammatical error in my sentence. however, i don't. the only mistake i see is that i didn't really complete my sentence... i could've added 'as the taijutsu user' at the end but that wouldn't really make that big of a difference. someone point it out my error for me.

    Originally posted by: Kagemane_no_Jutsu
    Good point I had completely forgot about naruto's Naruto Renda! So theres more proof that Sharingan doesnt copy Taijutsu
    what? are you kidding me? it specifically says that sharingan can copy the opponent's technique once you see them.
    Well I may be crazy but I think when you said that what you meant was: SHARINGAN is not bad against Taijutsu as long as the sharingan user is equally fast or faster. That's just what I think you meant though.

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    I'd agree with Kakashi being special, even among Sharingan users, because remember everyone was calling him a Genius, even before he got the Sharingan (which he somehow acquired over the years? I assume we'll learn more about it later) whenever they takl about his past

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    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    nice to see that people are with me on this whole "kiba not being weak" argument

    watch the episode where sharingan is explained for the first time
    its said that it can analyze all forms of ninjutsu, genjutsu, AND taijutsu

    im also pretty sure that the sharingan does in fact etch the jutsu into the person's mind, if they so choose. but how effecient it is at storing the info all depends on the level of the sharingan. Sasuke's prolly sucks at copying, therefore he hasnt copied very many jutsus. But for kakashi to know over 1000 jutsus.....he'd have to have a pretty damn photographic memory.

    everyone in the show says that the sharingan allows the user to copy jutsus......this leads me to believe that the secret to kakashi having so many techniques is the sharingan, not his memory
    sasuke hasnt mastered his sharingan yet, his has only 2 dots, (this is pure opinion) those two dot can give him the battle insight that he used against haku to tell whatmirror he {or she [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]}was in, once he master his shiringan and gains that third dot that we see in kakashi's and Itachi's eye then he can no only see what his opponent will do but also be able to mimic it too.

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    well yeah.....i know......thats why i said "sasuke's prolly sucks at copying" [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
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