Orochimaru,Itachi, Jirayiya Whos Stronger?

[Sam98034]

episode 85 at time 12:32...

He is slicing some long dangly things with his big sword. Maybe "tentacle things" aren't descriptive enough, I don't know what to call them.

And only a select few have the Sharingan?? In the show some old Uchiha dude was telling sasuke how his brother got the sharingan at a young age (9 or something) and that he was impressed. I assumed this meant that he was impressed that he got them at a young age and that most Uchiha eventually got them when they were older after lots of training or something. When does it say that only a few of the Uchiha clan ever got the sharingan? Why would the be a feared and respected clan if like no one really got the sharingan? And I'm not positive, but wasn't Itachi a Chunin or whatnot before he got his Sharingan?

and skullchemist I like your idea. In this way, Itachi could be much stronger than Jiraiya, but Jiraiya could still beat him by opening a few gates, and AT BEST Itachi is strong enough so that Jiraiya would have to open up all gates to defeat him, killing himself in the process.

[uhicha neji]

It's clearly Jiraiya. Itachi fears him, and was close to killing Itachi. Oro fears Itachi, and knows he cannot win. The battle between Oro & Jiraiya doesn't show anything. They were both at a weak state.

[Knives122]

True, so you can say that overall Jiraiya would be the strongest, b/c if you look at the times when all three were in a weakened state, Jiraiya was the only one that handled himself well, with Itachi in a close second.

[Mut]

it's clearly not jiraiya. sorry, but no.

[uhicha neji]

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
it's clearly not jiraiya. sorry, but no.

Who is it then ? We've seen Oro fight as hard as he can, and we've seen Itachi's killer move. Jiriya must be hiding/saving a sweet move for later on when it's absolutely crucal.

[Deblas]

Orochimaru is the strongest

[kupalmaru]

Originally posted by: Deblas
Orochimaru is the strongest

Yeah Oro is the strongest.

I never seen Oro fight to the max.

[Natural Cause]

Originally posted by: Sam98034
episode 85 at time 12:32...

He is slicing some long dangly things with his big sword. Maybe "tentacle things" aren't descriptive enough, I don't know what to call them.

And only a select few have the Sharingan?? In the show some old Uchiha dude was telling sasuke how his brother got the sharingan at a young age (9 or something) and that he was impressed. I assumed this meant that he was impressed that he got them at a young age and that most Uchiha eventually got them when they were older after lots of training or something. When does it say that only a few of the Uchiha clan ever got the sharingan? And I'm not positive, but wasn't Itachi a Chunin or whatnot before he got his Sharingan?

and skullchemist I like your idea. In this way, Itachi could be much stronger than Jiraiya, but Jiraiya could still beat him by opening a few gates, and AT BEST Itachi is strong enough so that Jiraiya would have to open up all gates to defeat him, killing himself in the process.

not everyone can open gates, only gai and lee can open gates at this point. also opening gates is not something that can be copied, if jiraiya could open gates so could the 3rd and the 3rd would have been able to defeat orochimaru

[uhicha neji]

Didn't Itachi say to Kisume, that if they fought Jiriya both would be killed or they would both die and he would to ? Clearly he think's Jiriyia is stronger than him.

[Souryusen]

And the cycle begins anew.

[iMUSTbeTHEdevil]

Originally posted by: uhicha neji
Didn't Itachi say to Kisume, that if they fought Jiriya both would be killed or they would both die and he would to ? Clearly he think's Jiriyia is stronger than him.

Gee one person knew what they were talking about. I can't believe that this was actually a thread.


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[kupalmaru]

Originally posted by: Natural Cause

not everyone can open gates, only gai and lee can open gates at this point. also opening gates is not something that can be copied, if jiraiya could open gates so could the 3rd and the 3rd would have been able to defeat orochimaru

Your not assured of an instant win if you open a gate.

A good example of this is Lee

[Natural Cause]

ah but not everybody has sand protecting them [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] remeber both times that lee used that move, both victums had soft landings, gaara has the grall thingy which broke his fall giving him minimal damage. they said that opening all 7 gates would give u the power to defeat a hokage. if the 3rd knew how to open a gate let alone all 7 im sure he would have. but as it stands only 2 people know how to open gates.

the thing i dont understand about the gates is, a gate allows a controled flow of chakra. when u open a gate the chakra becomes uncontrol/a larger amount can pass through. on the diagram they showed it doesn;t exactly work (to me) because the chakra would get stoped at the next gate..... or does it distrubite the chakra to all the other gates. so say if 6 chakra was to pass through any given gate, opening a gate would make the other 6 now flow with 7?


6--------7--------8.4--------10.5--------14--------21--------42--------(opened)
6--------7--------8.4--------10.5--------14--------21--------(opened)
6--------7--------8.4--------10.5--------14--------(opened)
6--------7--------8.4--------10.5--------(opened)
6--------7--------8.4--------(opened)
6--------7--------(opened)
6--------(opened)

??!?! theory

[Assertn]

i highly doubt the 3rd would have any problem unlocking gates

have you considered possibly, that the level of efficiency of a hokage is high enough that unlocking gates wouldnt help him significantly?

besides........
the 3rd established that no matter how much power he uses against the 1st and 2nd, it would be futile....since they can regenerate.
summoning the death god was prolly the only thing he could do against them

[uhicha neji]

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
i highly doubt the 3rd would have any problem unlocking gates

have you considered possibly, that the level of efficiency of a hokage is high enough that unlocking gates wouldnt help him significantly?

besides........
the 3rd established that no matter how much power he uses against the 1st and 2nd, it would be futile....since they can regenerate.
summoning the death god was prolly the only thing he could do against them

I agree. Now close this stupid thread please [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

[Kent-Su]

well, orochimaru was strongest before the arms thing, and can still compete without them. Tsunade has incomparable strength not to mention her medical capabilities. Jiraiya, or how u spell it, is just an older version of naruto.....so, i would say orochimaru, jiraiya, tsunade. after the incedent, tsunade, orochimaru, jiraiya

[Eurasian]

i think itachi is strongest. i thought oro left the akatsuki cuz he saw no chance of getting itachi's body.

[?igma]

close this damn repeat thread, goddamn -_-

[G-Pong]

[PSJ]

Originally posted by: uhicha neji
Didn't Itachi say to Kisume, that if they fought Jiriya both would be killed or they would both die and he would to ? Clearly he think's Jiriyia is stronger than him.

translation error, if i remember correctly they said that itachi couldnt win in his current state since he had overused the mangekyou sharingan.