Orochimaru,Itachi, Jirayiya Whos Stronger?

[DB_Hunter]

Uchiha Barles... nice argument.

I would still think it is Jiraiya... Oro was just on weed when he fought Jiraiya and said he was stronger....

Well to be honest its between Itachi and Jiraiya in my opinion. Jiraiya attacked Itachi, and Itachi ran. That can either be seen as a sign of weakness, or strength if you consider it to be a tactical move.

So I guess based on the anime... I'm un-decided.

[Souryusen]

I'm sure Itachi had a number of reasons to run from Jiraiya, the risk certainly, even with Kisame. The principal reason, as I see it anyway, for his retreat was the fact that there was likely no way to dispose of Jiraiya quickly. Moste likely Itachi and Kisame would've been swarmed by ninja before the fight could be properly concluded. Hell... Gai was already there. At the very least the two of them'd have to deal with Jiraiya (scary in and of itself), Gai and perhaps Naruto. For Itachi and Kisame running was probably the most pragmatic solution.

[DB_Hunter]

BUt did they realise that Gai was there? And also, Itachi said that Naruto was not at a level that was worth worrying about...

[Kagemane_no_Jutsu]

I don't think these topics are fair to some of the characters. Like Jiraiya, I don't think most people give him enough credit. He knows how to use Rasengan, an incredibly strong attack. If he knows this technique he must be better than we think. We can't judge Jiraiya or Itachi based on what we've seen from them. So far we've only seen Jiraiya fight drugged, and Itachi only use his Sharingan. I think the creators want to make it like this so we can't deffinetly know who's stronger. But things like Itachi saying we both him AND Kisame wouldn't leave with our lives if we fought him tells you right there who is waaay stronger. Jiraiya also tought the 4th so you haveta think about all of this.

at full strength, all of them fighting, I'd say Orochimaru would win. I don't like him that much but he probably is so messed up in the head that the Sharingan eye thing wouldn't make him go crazy as much as Jiraiya might. Jiraiya vs. Oro I'd say Jiraiya.

[DB_Hunter]

Lets settle this. Goku would win.

[calithefrog]

Slug beats snake > snake beats frog > frog beats slug
Tsunade beats Orochimaru > Orochimaru beats Jiraiya > Jiraiya beats Tsunade in theory.

I guess Itachi is below them..... (without his Mighty sharingan, he is nothing....)

[Souryusen]

Originally posted by: DB_Hunter
BUt did they realise that Gai was there? And also, Itachi said that Naruto was not at a level that was worth worrying about...

They may have known Gai was there... but then again maybe not. That's not really what's being disputed though. They HAVE to have known that a Jounin+ level battle would draw attention, the last thing ninja in hostile territory need. As for Naruto being inconsequential.. he probably is. But then again.. if Jiraiya is handling Itachi and Gai is handling Kisame then perhaps not.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: calithefrog
Slut beats snake > snake beats frog > frog beats slut
Tsunade beats Orochimaru > Orochimaru beats Jiraiya > Jiraiya beats Tsunade in theory.

I guess Itachi is below them..... (without his Mighty sharingan, he is nothing....)

this is pretty much wrong. your whole forumla is incorrect.

EDIT: response to below:

i don't know what the right formula is but i know for sure that ain't right. when you say slut i guess you mean slug and slug never beat anything. neither did the frog nor did the snake. also, you can't say tsunade beat orochimaru, orochimaru beat jiraiya, or jiraiya beat tsunade considering two of them had handicaps during the fight and jiraiya and tsunade never fought.

[calithefrog]

Slug beats snake > snake beats frog > frog beats slug > slug beats snake > .........



I'm sorry, then what's the RIGHT formula....

[Souryusen]

Originally posted by: calithefrog
I'm sorry, then what's the RIGHT formula....

Sean Connery = better than all of them combined

[Knives122]

Originally posted by: calithefrog
Slut beats snake > snake beats frog > frog beats slut > slut beats snake > .........

Why do you have to call her a slut, if you must then you would have to treat the three like this

slut beats pedophile > pedophile beats pervert > pervert beats slut > slut beats pedophile >.......

[Voltage]

She can beat up the Pervert, all she's gotta do is strip! Of course it won't faze Oro...

[Souryusen]

Originally posted by: Voltage
She can beat up the Pervert, all she's gotta do is strip! Of course it won't faze Oro...

Unless she henge's into a 12 year old boy.

[kupalmaru]

Originally posted by: Casualty
To back me up here: "Yes. If we both fought him, we would both be killed...or in a good case, we might kill him, but we'd die along with him." -Itachi speaking about Jiraiya from the AA trans of 83

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I think you can not base your argument base on what character said.

I remember Sarutabi telling Enma that he would kill Oro; The Third failed to kill Oro.

Originally posted by: Casualty
no need to explain itachi is the strongest.

one thing about the sannins tho. my guess is that they are like their summons. orochimaru beats jiraiya, jiraiya beats tsunade and tsunade beats orochimaru.

[/quote]
Itachi will have a hardtime defeating Oro's ressurection technique.

Oro could still summon The Fourth Hokage and all of past hokage from from other village. Worst case scenario for Itachi if Oro ressurected 5 hokage at a time to battle him.

The only bad thing for Oro, He do not have arm to do his jutso.

Oro could probably be one of the dangerous man to walk the Naruto world

Edit: Mangyeko and Amaretsu may not work on the ressurected person. The only way so far to defeat them is if you take away their soul.

[calithefrog]

My bad.... sorry.... I don't mean to type slut.... stupid spelling mistake...hehe

Anyway, that "Slug beats snake > snake beats frog > frog beats slug" is from this:

(quote from http://www.jbrowse.com/text/janken.shtml)
Mushiken was played with the snake, frog and slug symbols. Snake (thumb) beat frog (index finger), which beat slug (ring finger), and slug beat snake. Mushiken was a children's game, whereas shouyaken was played after brief dancing and singing, accompanied by the samisen, by adults in their tatami rooms.

[Knives122]

more like rock paper scissors

[Aeon]

Originally posted by: Knives122
more like rock paper scissors

That's how I see things, I see Jiraiya as rock, Oro as paper, and Itachi as scissors. If it was up to me I'd have Itachi be weaker then Oro just for the simple fact he looked like a punk when he ran away. Ohhhh I used the super Sharingan(dunno the real name) and the black fire now I must run away since my sharingan is gonna turn off and I wont be able to copy and anticipate Jiraiya movements. Neji wouldn't run away in that situation [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img].

[Mut]

Originally posted by: Aeon

Originally posted by: Knives122
more like rock paper scissors

That's how I see things, I see Jiraiya as rock, Oro as paper, and Itachi as scissors. If it was up to me I'd have Itachi be weaker then Oro just for the simple fact he looked like a punk when he ran away. Ohhhh I used the super Sharingan(dunno the real name) and the black fire now I must run away since my sharingan is gonna turn off and I wont be able to copy and anticipate Jiraiya movements. Neji wouldn't run away in that situation [img][/img].

you don't know what you're talking about. using mangekyou sharingan obviously requires a lot of chakra. itachi used the mangekyou sharingan too many times and was exhausted. it's like if sasuke uses chidori too much, he won't be able to fight. that's why itachi had to retreat and it wasn't out of cowardice. if you think neji is gonna try to fight a battle which he has high chance of dying for no important reason then you're calling neji a dumbass.

[Sam98034]

I hear everyone say that Itachi is the strongest character introduced so far in the anime...but isn't it Naruto really? I mean, when he faught Haku I think it was in the begining episodes he was stronger than kakashi right? I'm not sure but Steroid Naruto seems to be the strongest character introduced so far.

[Assertn]

Originally posted by: calithefrog
My bad.... sorry.... I don't mean to type slut.... stupid spelling mistake...hehe

Anyway, that "Slug beats snake > snake beats frog > frog beats slug" is from this:

(quote from http://www.jbrowse.com/text/janken.shtml)
Mushiken was played with the snake, frog and slug symbols. Snake (thumb) beat frog (index finger), which beat slug (ring finger), and slug beat snake. Mushiken was a children's game, whereas shouyaken was played after brief dancing and singing, accompanied by the samisen, by adults in their tatami rooms.

yeah, did you guys see how that slug was totally kicking that snake's ass?

i mean....it almost HIT him with acid!!