Ok i remember Orochimaru Saying Itachi Was stronger then him , BUt Itachi Says Fighting Jiraiya would be a stupid mistake but Orochimaru also beat the 3rd Hokage. so whats your opinion i dont get this personally
Ok i remember Orochimaru Saying Itachi Was stronger then him , BUt Itachi Says Fighting Jiraiya would be a stupid mistake but Orochimaru also beat the 3rd Hokage. so whats your opinion i dont get this personally
It seems to me that Orochimaru is the strongest of the three.
Jiraiya --> well, we haven't seen him actually fight, but he still lost against Orochimaru
Tsunade --> she had the insane strength, but still couldn't fight well against Kabuto
Orochimaru --> managed to kill the 3rd with a wide variety of jutsus, although it cost him his arms
Well, based on those, I'd say Orochimaru.
when orochimaru was talking about itachi being stronger he was talking in past tense so he must be talking about when orochimaru still had arms ... IMO though Jiraiya is strongest becuz itachi is afraid of him plus orochimaru only beat him when Jiraiya was Poisoned. then theres Tsunade im not too sure about her havent seen her do much cept use Healing which apparrently everyone an do, mad stregnth but thats not saying much, and summon that huge slug which is expected from a sannin, so im not sure aobut how strong she is but she must be good to become the 5th. these are my opinions though
They are all sannin, so i consider them equals, they just have different strengths.
Example:
Jiraiya - his powerful techniques (well from what i see so far) not only require knowledge of the jutsu, but constantly training your body and building up your chakra flowing and molding ability and pushing it to the extreme (i.e Resangan) thats why his jutsu's are not so easily copied by Sharingan.
orochimaru - he is considered the most skilled of the Sannin because of his vast Knowledge of Ninjutsu, however, Ninjutsu is susceptible to being copied by Sharingan (which is prlly why he fears Itachi more than Jiraiya)
Tsunade - not much i can say about her profile, but her knowledge of vital organs and medical stuff about the body makes her a formiddable opponent, not to mention her strength :S
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fuck. i did it again, i sometimes just read whatever i think is written instead of reading it all the way.Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
lol, you guys........he's not asking which of the 3 sannins are the strongest......
he's asking which of Jiraiya, Oro, and ITACHI are the strongest
both questions have been asked a few times already though
lol...
in that case, the obvious answer is itachi. mr. barles did a pretty good job explaining a good reason for it.
lol, you guys........he's not asking which of the 3 sannins are the strongest......
he's asking which of Jiraiya, Oro, and ITACHI are the strongest
both questions have been asked a few times already though
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I'd pick Itachi. I haven't really seen enough to give any proof, and I think I might've made this argument before, but, out of everyone introduce in the series, Itachi is the most ninja-ish. He has this aura about him, and I have a pretty good idea what gives it. First off, Itachi knows when to run. In his fight against kakashi and the other jounin, he ran to avoid unnecessary complications. In the fight against jiraiya, he ran cuz he didn't wanna risk dying (a very real risk, even if it was possible for him to win) and it was not out of cowardice either. Also, he absolutely destroyed kakashi. If kakashi is supposedly around kabuto's level, and kabuto performed as he did against tsunade, it's not a stretch to say that kakashi is extremely powerful. Final point, Itachi walked in the middle of a village full of ninja who want to kill him, faced off against kakashit, asuma, kurenai, and gai (all at the same time), and then Jiraiya. Itachi did all that, and managed to get away without anyone so much as even coming close to laying a finger on him. Even if no fight was fought to completion, that's quite a feat. These things make itachi look more ninja-ish than any other character to date, and are the reasons I pick him over the others.
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(this kind of thread again....) anyways
UchihaBalres...well put ^_^. I also think that Itachi is the strongest out of the three, and like Balres said, Itachi really has a ninja-ish aura to him and seems to be in quite good control of his emotions. Also.. -.- [forgot the number of jutsus they said Kakashi was supposed to know]..but well if Kakashi would know that many then I would think a master sharingan user would know at least that many, if not more
tsunade is
At this point, I'd say Itachi is definitely the deadliest of them. Oro might be the most unpredictable, but without his arms, he's just a really dangerous schemer.
However, if Oro actually finds a way to regain the use of his jutsus, I think an Orochimaru vs Itachi fight would be awesome.
Oro is defintely my favorite baddie. He's weird, powerful, and kinda crazy. Itachi on the other hand is a bit more methodical. A bad guy with the singular purpose of getting the job done with the least amount of trouble and lowest body-count is no fun [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
itachi is the strongest then comes jiraiya then comes oro, oro isn't all that amazing he's totally scared out his mind when he thinks about itachi while itachi sees jiraiya as an opponent capable of killing him so obviously oro is te weakest now if oro takes over sasuke's body than we won't know what happens if sasuke somehow gets the mangekyou sharingan and oro takes his body he might just become stronger then itachi but this is all specualtion just take it from me and almost everyone else Itachi is the strongest character introduced so far and probably will be for a long time
well i hear people saying that itachi is running away from jiraiya because he has the chance of being killed...in naruto you have the chance of being killed at ANY time, kunais and jutsus flying everywhere and such...and heaps of people are ninjas...itachi was with kisame both S ranked missing-nins when they went to jiraiya who in the room they were in there was also naruto, and sasuke (who was infact indisposed. naruto who has no chance against kisame or itachi...
Jiraiya V Itachi and Kisame...that should be an easy fight...isnt it said 3 genins can take bells from a jounin...jounin > genin is 2 ranks...the ranks that these 3 are at...is the top rank S or whatever...
in other words it is fair to say that itachi has never fought anyone stronger than him if he knows someone is stronger than him he runs away! he ran away from jiraiya because he is afraid of being killed by jiraiya...
i think jiraiya is strongest...
i think these would be the best battles..one on ones with jiraiya, orochimaru, and itachi...and cant wait to see if they happen!
This topic again?
The answer is Itachi. The reason Itachi has retreated twice so far is because he's smart enough not to risk a fight with a very powerful opponent (or large number of opponents) when it isn't necessary. He doesn't need to fight Jaraiya, so he isn't going to if he can avoid it. Even if there's only a 10% chance that Jaraiya will win, that's still a risk. That intelligence itself is a powerful asset.
Also, think about it thematically. Sasuke is going to be one of the strongest characters in the series by the time it ends, probably second only to Naruto. They're the main characters in the series, with Sauske being Kishimoto's favorite. Given the genre, they are most likely going to surpass the Sannin. His last fight is going to be with Itachi (it's his character's main motivation; so it stands to reason that it will be resolved at the end of the seires). His fight with Itachi is going to have to be dramatic, so Itachi will have to be stronger than Sasuke, with Sasuke comming from behind to barely win. Therefore, Itachi is going to have to be stronger than the Sannin.
Originally posted by: ShinobiNeko
(this kind of thread again....) anyways
UchihaBalres...well put ^_^. I also think that Itachi is the strongest out of the three, and like Balres said, Itachi really has a ninja-ish aura to him and seems to be in quite good control of his emotions. Also.. -.- [forgot the number of jutsus they said Kakashi was supposed to know]..but well if Kakashi would know that many then I would think a master sharingan user would know at least that many, if not more
I agree, a ninja(from what ive seen in movies etc.) usually have this I dont care feel to them, and Itachi has it, all the others are lets protect each otherish, and I think its right to say that if Kakashi knows around 1000, then Itachi know around 2000 IMO just b/c hes a master sharingan user.
So final statement: ITACHI IS STRONGER case closed
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i think oro is the strongest, i mean cmon cant even use his arms and he is still tough for the other 2 to take on. i think it goes
1. oro
2. jiraiya
3. tsunade
no need to explain itachi is the strongest.
one thing about the sannins tho. my guess is that they are like their summons. orochimaru beats jiraiya, jiraiya beats tsunade and tsunade beats orochimaru.
Jiraiya lost against Orochimaru? how? when?? remember Jiraiya is DRUGGED coming to the fight!Originally posted by: kooshi
It seems to me that Orochimaru is the strongest of the three.
Jiraiya --> well, we haven't seen him actually fight, but he still lost against Orochimaru
Tsunade --> she had the insane strength, but still couldn't fight well against Kabuto
Orochimaru --> managed to kill the 3rd with a wide variety of jutsus, although it cost him his arms
Well, based on those, I'd say Orochimaru.
Tsunade also not in her best condition which she is afraid of blood!
Orochimaru didn't kill the 3rd. The 3rd sacrifice his life. Don't forget the 3rd take on 1st and 2nd hokage as well.
Orochimaru in peak form is weaker than Itachi. He said as much himself. Likewise, Itachi said that, in a fight against Jiraiya, the best Itachi could hope for would be both dying, and more than likely Jiraiya would kill him - even if he had reinforcements from other akatsuki groups. Therefore, Jiraiya > Itachi > Orochimaru. Tsunade would probably be even weaker than Oro right now, but that's only cause she's out of practice. Who knows who would be stronger otherwise.
To back me up here: "Yes. If we both fought him, we would both be killed...or in a good case, we might kill him, but we'd die along with him." -Itachi speaking about Jiraiya from the AA trans of 83
It's possible that Itachi/Kisame know of a trump card that Jiraiya has and we've yet to see. For all the talk we've heard of how great the Sannin are we've only really seen Orochimaru and Tsunade (assuming that was her absolute best) lay it down.Originally posted by: Casualty
To back me up here: "Yes. If we both fought him, we would both be killed...or in a good case, we might kill him, but we'd die along with him." -Itachi speaking about Jiraiya from the AA trans of 83
I, personally, think that Itachi's stronger'n Orochi and Orochi's stronger'n Jiraiya but I'm notoriously bad at calling winners in Naruto. In this case, however, I think that if one of the characters in question wasn't bringing their absolute A-game there'd be room for an upset.
I remember that being discussed at the time, with people saying that it was an inaccurate translation.Originally posted by: Casualty
To back me up here: "Yes. If we both fought him, we would both be killed...or in a good case, we might kill him, but we'd die along with him." -Itachi speaking about Jiraiya from the AA trans of 83
S-O simply had him saying that it would be risky.
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