If we look at Sasuke's skill we can expect the same thing with his older bro but with Stronger skill and a greater jutsu knowledge .[i]Originally posted by: Souryusen[\i]
Can't forget what I never knew... what ep did they say that in?
If we look at Sasuke's skill we can expect the same thing with his older bro but with Stronger skill and a greater jutsu knowledge .[i]Originally posted by: Souryusen[\i]
Can't forget what I never knew... what ep did they say that in?
I don't know if that's an assumption that one can make with Itachi. "Stronger skill" and "greater jutsu knowledge" can make all the difference. If Sasuke is capable of mimicking Lee then certainly Itachi could do the same with Gai.. and that's assuming he even needs to. He might have been able to copy taijutsu off an even greater master than Gai. Either way it's all just speculation. And truthfully as of yet we really haven't seen Gai lay it down either.Originally posted by: Inazuma Kami
If we look at Sasuke's skill we can expect the same thing with his older bro but with Stronger skill and a greater jutsu knowledge .
the reason itachi and kisame were nervous about facing jiraiya is because no ninja wants to provoke a fight against a dangerous adversary.....even IF the adversary may be a little weaker than them.
im pretty sure though, that we'll see other members of the akatsuki that will be stronger than itachi
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
If Itachi were strongest member of akatsuki he wouldn't be the one one risking his ass going to Konoha to retrieve Naruto. Itachi knew of Oro's recent attack and if he started something serious he would have every ninja in the village on his ass. Far as we know the Sharingan can affect only one person at a time, which would mean an ass kicking for Itachi.Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
the reason itachi and kisame were nervous about facing jiraiya is because no ninja wants to provoke a fight against a dangerous adversary.....even IF the adversary may be a little weaker than them.
im pretty sure though, that we'll see other members of the akatsuki that will be stronger than itachi
this thread is full of people that don't know what they're talking about just blabbering on.
There's no need for that.Originally posted by: Mut@t@
this thread is full of people that don't know what they're talking about just blabbering on.
Just because people don't read the manga doesn't mean that they don't know what they are talking about. Nor does it mean that you are any better or smarter than they are.
It just means that they (we) are in an earlier part of the series, and are making do with what facts have been given.
There is nothing wrong with speculation.
The problem arises when a manga reader comes in and says something like "only Sasuke will ever be able to beat Itachi."
That just tells all of the non-manga readers that from now on, in any future fight that Itachi is involved in, he'll never lose unless it's against Sasuke.
Also just shows extreme bias... as wirm said we are only going by the facts we know right now by the anime.
this is exactly what i'm talking about. just because i said what i said, that doesn't mean it's not speculation. in fact, it is. i've never included my manga knowledge when discussing in the anime forum.Originally posted by: wirm
There's no need for that.Originally posted by: Mut@t@
this thread is full of people that don't know what they're talking about just blabbering on.
Just because people don't read the manga doesn't mean that they don't know what they are talking about. Nor does it mean that you are any better or smarter than they are.
It just means that they (we) are in an earlier part of the series, and are making do with what facts have been given.
There is nothing wrong with speculation.
how do you know that what i said is fact? just because some of us read the manga that doesn't mean that we spoil. you're just ruining the outcome of the story for yourselves thinking that way.The problem arises when a manga reader comes in and says something like "only Sasuke will ever be able to beat Itachi."
That just tells all of the non-manga readers that from now on, in any future fight that Itachi is involved in, he'll never lose unless it's against Sasuke.
there is no bias. and who are you to say that i'm not only going by the facts we know right now by the anime?Originally posted by: DB_Hunter
Also just shows extreme bias... as wirm said we are only going by the facts we know right now by the anime.
I don't see the problem in this topic... Really, i don't... Orochimaru said that Itachi was too strong for him. Itachi said that if he fought Jiraya, the outcome would probably be bad for them both.
I mean, just listen to what they say in the anime and there wont be any of these stupid topics
Originally posted by: Mut@t@
this thread is full of <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=people&v=56">people</a> that don't know what they're talking about just blabbering on.
You are the one saying Itachi is the strongest without saying why he is the strongest.......
Yes, because we have so many facts to work with showing his strength. We will just have to wait and see, though I would bet that Itachi could beat anyone in the series as it stands now.Originally posted by: Hakeem_21
Originally posted by: Mut@t@
this thread is full of <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=people&v=56">people</a> that don't know what they're talking about just blabbering on.
You are the one saying Itachi is the strongest without saying why he is the strongest.......
i originally was of the opinion that jira was the strongest, due to itachi being scared of him, and oro being scared of itachi.l but seeing the sannins fight.........you have to say oro is the strongest, but fucking miles and miles. yes jira was drugged so what? oro had no godamn arms ffs!!
but if people are going to take things that people in naruto say (when in a serious fram of mind) then doesnt someone say during the neji-hinta fight that nejis ability i stronger than sharingan? threfore its reasonable to assume that amaster of that technique (wich neji will almost inevitably become) could beat a sharingan user of similer levels.
Come now, those statements contradict themselves.Originally posted by: Mut@t@
this is exactly what i'm talking about. just because i said what i said, that doesn't mean it's not speculation. in fact, it is. i've never included my manga knowledge when discussing in the anime forum.
how do you know that what i said is fact? just because some of us read the manga that doesn't mean that we spoil. you're just ruining the outcome of the story for yourselves thinking that way.The problem arises when a manga reader comes in and says something like "only Sasuke will ever be able to beat Itachi."
That just tells all of the non-manga readers that from now on, in any future fight that Itachi is involved in, he'll never lose unless it's against Sasuke.
there is no bias. and who are you to say that i'm not only going by the facts we know right now by the anime?Originally posted by: DB_Hunter
Also just shows extreme bias... as wirm said we are only going by the facts we know right now by the anime.
In any case, I can't count the number of replies you've made to speculation that are just the word "no". This shows no hesitation and now ambiguity.
So unless we are to assume that you lie a lot, then when you say something, I expect it to be true.
I'm not trying to start an argument. My post was just in reply to your comment about people here not knowing what they're talking about.
Well ... this is my first post on these forums and I would like to say hi to everyone.
now the reason i chose this thread to post because for a while i have been thinking of what would happen lets say if the series jumps twenty years in the future and Negi and Sasuke were to fight.
Now I am a fan of Negi not only for the fighting style they gave him and the bykaguue(not sure on the spelling but the freaky eyes is enough description i think) but also the family heritage as being the most noble and guessing highborn in Konoha.
What i think is Itachi is not the strongest, nor is Sharingen, its a jutsu bassically like any other ... yes a blood limit, but as i understand it in the series thus far (just downloading the latest torrent atm) so is Neji's technique, and like Kakashi said, unlike the Sharingen, Neji can see almost full 360 degrees and brings in insight. Not sure if he could trap you in a similar place like Itachi does with his mangekou (sp) but then again ... who knows yet.
What i think is either Jiriah or Orochomaru are strong in both techniques and physically like all sennins, and Itachi as far as I can see is not in pure gut strength ... but the Sharingen is his advantage.
He is lets face it a master with those damn eyes, and all he has to do is capture you in them and BANG you screwed, your ass is handed to you in a silver plater.
But ... if you could avoid it and beat it threw willpower alone (IE Naruto, or Sasuke - not yet but soon maybe) the shock of it would by you enough time to take him out.
I don't see the anime in staking Itachi as the ultimate villian, or anyone else, there has got to be someone a little better at any given moment. In all honesty, i think Kabuto is wayyyy better then Naruto, and could easily have beaten him, but he likes to play around and thats his problem and that gave Naruto the second just to beat Kabuto (regardless if he somehow hit Naruto back equally as hard).
So really thus far ... Oro and Itachi i would say is an even match, they could never fight eachother because there is no guarentee if either could win, and lets face it, all you have to really do is kill Oro, or atleast criple him from using chakra and his immortality power trip falls apart.
the hell are you talking about, there are no contradictions. maybe you didn't quite understand what i said, not big a deal since i don't think i made my self 100% clear anyway.Originally posted by: wirm
Come now, those statements contradict themselves.
In any case, I can't count the number of replies you've made to speculation that are just the word "no". This shows no hesitation and now ambiguity.
So unless we are to assume that you lie a lot, then when you say something, I expect it to be true.
I'm not trying to start an argument. My post was just in reply to your comment about people here not knowing what they're talking about.
when i say 'no' in a response to certain topics that means that the topic question requires zero thought and no clarification/explanation because the answer is just that damn obvious. for example, the thing about tsunade's strength being a bloodline limit. i have no idea why this was even asked as a question when it's pretty obvious that if one has a special ability, it is clearly explained. why try to ignore the obvious and the truth and try to think otherwise coming up with random theories?
EDIT: as for the last sentence above, yeah, yeah, it's a forum. a forum is where we discuss anything and everything.
Could we try to stay on topic?
Could Oro beat Itachi? The answer is no.
Itachi's greatest wepon is the sharingan.
Probably one of Oro's greatest wepon is his ability to recruit people to fight and do the dirty work for him. Im talking about the like of Kabuto, the three student during the chunnin exam and maybe Anko.
Even if you cut Oro's leg, he is still as dangerous as the one who have arms and legs.
Itachi has the sharingan but Oro have a lots of pawns that he can use. Maybe Oro can use his pawn, his recruit, to slow down Itachi.
PS: In my OPINION Oro's pawn are the same as Kiba's dog and Shino's bugs because they are willing to die for him..
Well, I don't know who the strongest one is, but Orochimaru said that Itachi was stronger than him, and that he wouldn't have to get Sasuke if he could have gotten Itachi. Of course, I like to think that Gai could've kicked Itachi's butt... and maybe he could, but I don't think that Gai can do it entirely of his own merit. I haven't heard anyone else comment on it, but from the way Kisami talks to Itachi about his Sharingan, it seems that Itachi is afflicted with the same cursed seal that Orochimaru placed on Sasuke. To quote "But Itachi-san, don't use that eye too much or it may be dangerous." Right after he says this, it goes to a close-up of Itachi and his eyes are straining. This is why I think that Itachi fled from Jiraiya. Not because Jiraiya was too powerful, but because Itachi was getting close to having his cursed seal break loose. That would limit Itachi in many ways because all you'd have to do then is avoid the Sharingan and wear him out of Chakra. Itachi is definitely not the strongest, though, because otherwise, he'd be running Akatsuki and sending other people to look for Naruto. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
Halo are you saying Itachi has a cursed seal? Since when did Itachi have a cursed seal?
lol... dude, that's like completely wrong and not even possible. the reason why kisame said is because not because itachi was using his sharingan but because he he his mangekyou sharingan too many times. it has nothing to do with curse seals.Originally posted by: Halo2298
I haven't heard anyone else comment on it, but from the way Kisami talks to Itachi about his Sharingan, it seems that Itachi is afflicted with the same cursed seal that Orochimaru placed on Sasuke. To quote "But Itachi-san, don't use that eye too much or it may be dangerous." Right after he says this, it goes to a close-up of Itachi and his eyes are straining. This is why I think that Itachi fled from Jiraiya. Not because Jiraiya was too powerful, but because Itachi was getting close to having his cursed seal break loose. That would limit Itachi in many ways because all you'd have to do then is avoid the Sharingan and wear him out of Chakra.
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