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    RE: Who knows about video card?

    u have serious cpu and ram power, u shoudl match it with the vid card. pci won't do. my suggestion is get a new mobo that will work with what u got now that has agp 8x and get a new vid card too.

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    RE: Who knows about video card?

    If you wanna be really future-proof, PCI-Express is the way to go now. AGP is old technology, it'll be phased out eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven
    If you wanna be really future-proof, PCI-Express is the way to go now. AGP is old technology, it'll be phased out eventually.
    Well, you're right about that.

    I'm looking at a passively cooled Geforce 8800 GT. I've never heard about the brand called Sparkle, so don't know about quality or anything. More worried about the heat factor though, but it shouldn't be too bad...hopefully. Probably more interested in pricing but it's not released yet.

    Bottom line: Has any one every had a passively cooled middle/high end graphics card? I've got a passive 8500 GT. Hardly medium, but offloads h264 encoding well enough. Point is, it's quite. .

    Link to Sparkle
    http://www.sparkle.com.tw/News/SP880...assive_EN.html

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    You guys are fools who like to waste their money. Just buy the biggest baddest card out there and you'll be good for the next year or two. Quit wasting money on videocards that are already obsolete or will be within 1 month. Sheesh.


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    I dont think you read around alot, the 8800GT is the newest gen card nvidia has to offer with even pcie 2.0 support, its almost as fast as a 8800gtx 768 mb, and costs only 200-250$
    its also a single slot card and draws about 70watts less power then a gtx
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkshadow
    I dont think you read around alot, the 8800GT is the newest gen card nvidia has to offer with even pcie 2.0 support, its almost as fast as a 8800gtx 768 mb, and costs only 200-250$
    its also a single slot card and draws about 70watts less power then a gtx
    The extra X makes all the difference. The average non-techie will judge your GT to be inferior, and in the case of PC parts, as with everything in life, the greater specs will bring greater glory.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    The extra X makes all the difference. The average non-techie will judge your GT to be inferior, and in the case of PC parts, as with everything in life, the greater specs will bring greater glory.
    If performance was all there was to worry about, then there wouldn't be a middle/low end video card market, let alone on board graphics. High end graphics cards aren't cheap. That's where you have to balance your cash and performance to best serve your interests. The 8800GT seems very appealing for the reasons darkshadow has outlined. Nvidia has even enabled full H264 hardware decoding on it, which was previously non-existent in their high-end cards, since they reserved the best h264 decoding ability for thier middle/low range HDPC type cards.

    The silent factor in the Sparkle card is also another plus I'm interested in.
    Now all that's left is the price (unannounced, I suppose), and reliability of passively cooled high end cards, for which I'm asking opinion.

    It's the same reason why not everyone drives Ferraris.

    edit: the average non-techie will also wonder at your 8800GTX price tag like 0.o

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
    edit: the average non-techie will also wonder at your 8800GTX price tag like 0.o
    And that's all that matters.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    And that's all that matters.
    The non-techie won't know what makes you card so good. They may not appreciate it the way an enthusiast would. On the other hand, they may just grab a card that's cheaper and not much poorer in performance from one look at the price. It doesn't take much depth in knowledge to google and understand a review, especially since most have a conclusion/final thoughts section to sum it all up.

    Anyway, the "average non-techie" isn't probably going to go all out on a video card. Those who do, from my experience, don't quite fit the description of "average no techie." They ask the opinion of a tech anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
    The non-techie won't know what makes you card so good. They may not appreciate it the way an enthusiast would. On the other hand, they may just grab a card that's cheaper and not much poorer in performance from one look at the price. It doesn't take much depth in knowledge to google and understand a review, especially since most have a conclusion/final thoughts section to sum it all up.

    Anyway, the "average non-techie" isn't probably going to go all out on a video card. Those who do, from my experience, don't quite fit the description of "average no techie." They ask the opinion of a tech anyway.
    Animeniax is just playing with you around "Size Does Matter"

    Then for vid cards, everything depends on what you play. A sparkle 8800 passive
    would perfectly fit my needs as I can"t stand any noise, and high end non passive video cards tend to be as noisy as hair driers.
    That would be enough for me to play GTR2 for hours, and then switch to an all new system when GTR3 arrrives, because every other pieces of my comp wil then be quite obsolete (since it was built 3 years ago)

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    I just got a new comp 2 weeks ago. e6750 (2.66ghz@3.6), 8800gts 640mb, and 2GB ram. Runs Crysis on high quite well.

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    You lie mage, Crysis isn't even out yet.

    My system:
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    2GB RAM
    WD Raptor 150

    Runs everything well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    You lie mage, Crysis isn't even out yet.

    My system:
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    8800GTX 768MB
    2GB RAM
    WD Raptor 150

    Runs everything well.
    isn't that system a bit noisy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    You lie mage, Crysis isn't even out yet.

    My system:
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    8800GTX 768MB
    2GB RAM
    WD Raptor 150

    Runs everything well.
    uhh crysis has been out since yesterday or so, ive been playing it aswell
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    Quote Originally Posted by David75
    isn't that system a bit noisy?
    I can't hear it over the sound levels of whatever game I play, so I'm ok.

    I'm thinking of water-cooling to reduce the noise, but that would deem my Tuniq Tower a wasted expenditure. It's not that bad; it helps drown out the noise from the test firing range.

    Quote Originally Posted by darkstain
    uhh crysis has been out since yesterday or so, ive been playing it aswell
    Really? How come gamestop and amazon show a release date of 11/13?


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    I'm using a Radeon HD3850 Mobile right now. It owns. Performance isn't that great but it's purely slot powered, meaning it draws less than 75W at max load and runs super cool and quiet (with a Zalman VF900). That's incredible efficiency.

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    I envy you BoC and your job at AMD. You get to try all these new toys before they come out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    I can't hear it over the sound levels of whatever game I play, so I'm ok.

    I'm thinking of water-cooling to reduce the noise, but that would deem my Tuniq Tower a wasted expenditure. It's not that bad; it helps drown out the noise from the test firing range.

    Really? How come gamestop and amazon show a release date of 11/13?
    Well from what you describe, it's too much... Wife won't be pleased
    I really need a silent system...
    Everyone has their own criteria

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaZie
    I envy you BoC and your job at AMD. You get to try all these new toys before they come out!
    Too bad it's ending at the end of December. Hopefully I'll be back again for the May-August term.

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    What happens between Jan and Apr? You gonna be in a coma?

    I want to get a tech workstudy job when I go to uni, but I feel bad taking a job from some college student who needs it, considering I've been working 10 years and have savings.

    Isn't the ATi 3950 coming out soon? Everyone should wait for that, then buy the 2950 for cheap.


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