i have none of this anime and am going to DL it now what Subber is the best one?
Anime-fin
Anime-Works
A4L-arupt
are the ones i see who have it subbed
i have none of this anime and am going to DL it now what Subber is the best one?
Anime-fin
Anime-Works
A4L-arupt
are the ones i see who have it subbed
The most up to date one is Anime-fin. I only download those are they are well made. The others were ok, but you'll do just fine with Anime-fin.
All righty, this is sort of off-topic, but since it seems that ignorance about this subject is rife, I'd better clear up some facts:
1) In practically every country in the world (with very few exceptions), it is entirely legal to marry your first cousin. It isn't considered incest, although it may be frowned upon. Japan is no exception - marriage between first cousins is legal.
2) One reason why it is frowned upon is that the closer you are related, the more similar your genetic makeup is. This means that any latent (recessive) "bad genes" may occur in both individuals.
Since this increases (by a small, but significant, factor) the likelihood of a reinforced negative gene, children born of closely-related individuals have a heightened probability of suffering from genetic disorders. There are many different genetic disorders - not merely Downs' Syndrome, although this is probably the most prominent one.
3) The likelihood of negative reinforcement of recessive genes increases drastically if both the individuals mating share one or both parents. This is the actual origin of the near-universal taboo on incestuous relations with siblings or half-siblings.
4) Even so, these are merely probabilities. The actual probability of first cousins having defective offspring is still very low, although it is higher than for the surrounding population.
5) Repeated inbreeding has the effect of producing a very small gene pool. Such a situation tends to produce significant genetic drift, resulting in the emergence of common characteristic traits - for instance, the Habsburg chin or the oh-so-prominent ears of the Windsors. Negative recessives which are present in such a small gene pool will tend to show up frequently - for instance, haemophilia among the European royalty. However, if they are negative enough to prevent the individual from procreating, they will winnow themselves out in short order.
Continual inbreeding, by the way, is one method used by animal breeders to fix desirable traits in a population.
I hope this clears up the misunderstandings. Class dismissed. ;-)
- abunai
hahaz... now guys... with this info, those who have secretly fancied thier cousins for a long time... go for it man! =p
PS. this is meant to be a joke... for those "chibi" who cant read between the lines and criticise this note as "mediocre intelligence", i would suggest you press alternate F4 on your keyboard now.
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"if your name suggests danger, it must be the danger of the inability to think"
--no pun intended--
Ah, excellent. Class, pay attention now...Originally posted by: shinichi69
hahaz... now guys... with this info, those who have secretly fancied thier cousins for a long time... go for it man! =p
Here we see a sterling example of how a mediocre intelligence can misinterpret facts to reach a completely skewed conclusion. Anyone who has ever graded a term paper will be familiar with this phenomenon.
Kids, don't try this at home.
- abunai
yeah i saw it also... but... i still dont believe it... i would give it a couple of days to see if it's true...
to this date i dont remember them dropping any series... so i dont know why would they start now with this incredible series
even if it's true, u don't have to wait 7 months. A4L is subbing it too.
I tried my best...
it doesnt necessesarily have to be down syndrome... it can be any disease.... close related people tend to have more similar genes than faaaaaaaaaaaar related people.... so that means that the combination that can cause the disease in question has a higher probability of occuring....
yenlowang, I am just saying that from what I remember in my biology classes, the closer you are genetically related, the less variance there is in the gene pool, and the higher your chances of defects that could occur.
I remember that if you have a population of less than 10,000 of the same species, there will not be enough genetic diversification, and the population will eventually die out. Please correct my numbers if they are incorrect, since it has been a while since I took Genetics.
As for looking for a history of genetic defects, I don't really know of a case study for the general population, but there has been recorded historty of royal families inter-marrying. The old Royal household, I think the same line as Catherine the Great, had a history of hemophiliac that caused the death of their descendents. If you can look at a lot of the royal families in the past, you could probably have a case study of genetic defects.
Also, I was corrected by my friend the other day. In the US, in 31 states, it is legal to marry your first cousin. It is just not legal in my state. It is also socially unacceptable to marry your relatives from all the cultures that I know of.
Now, I just really need my Elfen Lied. *sigh* *enters withdrawal* [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] I am just happy that some groups are still subbing it. I wonder if Anime-fin could recruit a new encoder and be able to continue?
anyone drop a link for grp subbin elfen lied. mirc is the devil.
Elfen Lied episode 10 is out by Anime-fin Episode 10, found on Mircx, must have just been released. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
If anime-fin is going to finish this series, that's great, if this is the last one they do, that's okay too. I gave up on getting all worked up over a dropped series. Even if its a really deep series like Elfen Lied.
Edit:
I don't know if anyone thought about this, but the opening gained a lot of signifigance with me today. I read somewhere that the Lily is often interpreted as a flower of death. Since the song has "...Lily of Purity..." in it, I wonder if it isn't something about the purity of death.
Just something to think about.
i guess that my intuition was right
WHAT HAPPEN WHEN I WAS SLEEPING?!?!?!?! i can't believe i wasn't a part of this...
despite the song having a german title, the song is in latin. so even if japan is going through a German-craze (which i don't know...what happen to david beckham?!), the song wasn't used becuz it was "hip." unless the german relation is the title and that was all u meant...[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]<-confused
yahthat unrelated ppl can have children w/ genetic disorders. the number of variables may be limited (i don't know for sure) but constantly mutation occurs in the chromosome. ppl usually don't have the same face, body structure. etc. so even if it was limited, the gene pool is goddamn big. but if u breed w/ ur relative, that gene pool became small. really small cuz it's only ur family's gene pool. it's just the chance for a genetic disorder to occur increases. if they both have a recessive trait for that disorder, then the chances for that trait to show up just went up.
Queen Victoria was the one who had hemophilia. it mostly affected the male descendants.
happiness. now that i know anime-fin didn't drop elfen lied.
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DraGunZer0, i saw that too...it says a lot of what the cops think nowadays............
i guess this episode was pretty much flashback on how everything started. so that girl was lucy??? getting cannonballs chucked at her. i don't get it when kurama had a revelation to kill the baby. he's like "i get it...oomori...'i have to thank you.'"
numero 35...DAMN!!!!! 26 vectors...DAMN!!!!! she's probably gonna be the "final boss." but how the hell is lucy going to fight someone w/ 26 vectors?!?!?!
CLIFFHANGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH WHY!?!?!?!?! especially ending it w/ the intro of #35.
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I tried my best...
well hemofilia affects only men... women are carriers of the gene.... if not mistaken
Umm.. on ep 10 at 8:25, did the cops really say "Come out with your PANTS down?" I find that kind of odd...
DraGunZer0, I think that response from the cops might be a joke by Anime-fin? It sounds like the opposite of "come out with your hands up." I am really glad that Anime-fin continued subbing this series, and this episode did reveal so much.
**Episode 10 Spoilers**
My suspicion was correct. Nana is Kurama's daughter. Still, could someone explain that whole diclonius looking into the mind of Kurama? What did they do to him? And why did he come an agent to stop them because of that? It looks like he can't or they won't kill him.
Eurasian, I don't think that girl was Lucy. They all looked alike, and I think it was mentioned that they all came from the same area at the same time. Lucy is probably the queen, since she is the only one that can actually reproduce. Everyone else is like her drone carrying genetic material to spread around, it seems. I think that the experiments killed a lot of the diclonius. That is why the director ordered to kill new diclonius that are born because there were too many of them.
The canon-balled diclonius died. The one shot in the head died. I think the one where the police was at also died (shot to death). They all look so much alike. I think Lucy has the darkest red color hair, however.
Number 35 is probably a berserk/fighter type drone. Since Lucy is probably the queen, and she has Nana on her side now, they might be able to defeat her combined.
I find the Nana situation strange with Lucy there, but it was mentioned that the diclonius only killed humans. Therefore, I think that Nana and Lucy will probably not kill each other, and probably will get along. Lucy is the queen, afterall. She needs to take care of her drones. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Btw, is Nana a third generation diclonius? It appears that the "good" doctor killed all the third generations were born, but the second generations were the ones killing. Nana didn't want to kill everyone on instinct like the others did.
**End of Spoilers**
Wow, I just realized that packed so much information in this episode. That was an awesome episode, too. I can't wait for the next one.
Unless I'm misintepreting everything, Lucy is the only one who can reproduce in the normal way humans do, she is the Queen, and we can assume she has been infecting lots of people across the country. Sterile diclonius, called Silpelit, can pass the virus too. From what the series has shown us, they jab one of their vectors into any human brain, and infect it with a virus. This virus ensures that all children from the infected are also sterile dicloniuses (dicloni?) Kurama and the other guy were both hit, and thus both had diclonius children.Still, could someone explain that whole diclonius looking into the mind of Kurama? What did they do to him? And why did he come an agent to stop them because of that? It looks like he can't or they won't kill him.
The director said he was trying to track down the source of the virus, so that is how we can assume they captured and did all the things they did to Lucy.
They said that 35 was the only 3rd generation they kept alive. But Nana was definitely a 3rd too... (Lucy, the one that infected Kurama, Nana) Either the scientist guy doesn't know Nana is still alive, which seems a little odd since he's releasing 35 to kill Nana (eps 9), or the "generations" don't work in the way we think they should.Btw, is Nana a third generation diclonius? It appears that the "good" doctor killed all the third generations were born, but the second generations were the ones killing. Nana didn't want to kill everyone on instinct like the others did.
Someone asked for the opening song and I found it for download here Elfen Lied Opening
Sensei Jon, do u know anyplace that has the full version of the OP???
I tried my best...
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