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    RE: translated 222 manga discussion

    But this is taking so long though, we all thought we'd finally have a good fight in this arc but now we have to sit back and wait for this flashback to be over, its like they completely forgot about the fight and decided to do something else, If kishimoto is just wasting time to think of how hes going to do the fight then it better be by far the best one weve ever seen in this show, or this entire arc will just go to waste completely. IMO

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    see i am happy we are having a nice relaxing flashback.. one i am not a big sasuke fan but i do like itachi and everyone was screaming for itachi info before. . so now they SHOULD be happy.

    we have had a huge fight arc for a damn long time, i am happy for the rest. seeing the other genin's fight for months was draining to me. 3 weeks for each battle if not four. . ugh.

    yeah looking forward to seeing naruto vs sasuke conclusion but will wait. we cant have a constant rush, the fight scenes are only good cause they are spaced out by info chapters.

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    judging from what he said i guess he killed the clan to see if you are stronger as a group or as an individual. but all of the uchihas seem to be quite weird.

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    They all seem really paranoid for some reason, like they know how strong Itachi really is but they dont really want to say anything out loud

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    all uchiha's are garbage except itachi, he just a badass.

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    i think he definatly killed the other uchiha. who was the 'best' among them before. as he said before, a ninja who polices other ninja's is an even greater ninja. the reason he killed the clan was to see if there were any ninja's who could police him, even grouped together they lost against him.

    he definatly is the best uchiha at the time, but there are several hints that sasuke (whether you hate him or not) has more potential. not sure how orochi and others came upon this but i think itachi also believes so. he killed the clan for his own twisted test, but he saved sasuke because he still wants to push his brother and make him grow.

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    I really like this mini story arc. Itachi has been a mediocre typical super-bad-guy up to this point, and this has done nothing but flesh him out, in a way that I really like.

    What strikes me about the arc is that we've been shown tons and tons of negative things about the Uchiha clan, most of them simple things people have said which ... well... don't make you feel all warm and tingly about the Uchiha family life. The relationship between Itachi and Sasuke has, from the beginning, been very warm. It really makes me wonder if the only reason Sasuke is alive is because he defied all that it meant to be Uchiha by the simple act of being a loving younger brother.

    The whole arc seems to mitigate what from the beginning of the manga seemed/seems like a horrific act (uhh, killing your entire bloodline is a bad thing, right?) by saying succinctly that this family sucks.

    This is good stuff.

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    i dont think this minarc has justified killing the clan. actually i think it only strengthens the idea that itachi killed them to test himself. Before we thought there might be some other 'factor' that we didnt know about that caused his actions but it seems to me that his behavior is as portrayed, he is a ninja who wiped out his family to see if any could best him.

    even though the uchiha family is strict and the dad is an ass that doesnt mean its ok to kill them! true the parents have extremely high expectations of their children but the mom seemed to be compassionate and itachi seems like an ok older brother overall. its not like he picks on sasuke or beats him up, he seems to have an honest love for his little bro.

    in chapter 221, when sasuke and itachi are sitting beside each other and itachi says his speal, did you notice sasuke's report card? I thought that sasuke showed his brother, who then in response said how hard it was to be elite and how it can change a person. Itachi HAS gone beyond the abilities of the clan and sees himself as more then just an elite uchiha, he is an elite ninja that should nto be tied down by the simplistic notions of the clan. If he doesnt want to be what his parents expect him to be then by God he shouldnt have to be, although killing them all wasnt really the right choice



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    RE: translated 222 manga discussion

    the actions of a villian dont have to be justified
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    If you seriously think this flashback is unnecessary and not justified, you are nothing but an idiot.
    And I'm not even going to bother stating why as it should be completely clear.
    Sasuke is a main character. Itachi is his brother. Itachi is cool. He killed his damn family. I for one would like to know exactly why. This isn't FORGETTING about the fight, this is making it even more dramatic once it starts. It's called story telling.

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    translated 222 manga discussion

    Originally posted by: Terracosmo
    If you seriously think this flashback is unnecessary and not justified, you are nothing but an idiot.
    And I'm not even going to bother stating why as it should be completely clear.
    Sasuke is a main character. Itachi is his brother. Itachi is cool. He killed his damn family. I for one would like to know exactly why. This isn't FORGETTING about the fight, this is making it even more dramatic once it starts. It's called story telling.
    i love the way terra speaks... such authority! yes!

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    lol terra you just explained why [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] and btw who said this flashback was unnecessary?

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    If you kind of read into what itachi was to talking to Sasuke and said to the cop's, was that the clan was becoming stagnent and to complacient with the life they had come to regard as normal. I think Itachi killed the rest of the clan to ride it of the stagnation that had formed over the years. He left Sasuke because he knew that his little brouther had a lot of potentional it not more than itachi himself and would restor the Uchiha clan to former glory it once had.

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    it doesnt matter if sasuke got more potential right now since he ran to orochimaru and wont grow more than what orochimaru can make him.

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    *Collects props & bribes accordingly*

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    *bribes terra with free ramen coupon [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

    Anyway correct me if I'm wrong but didn't rock lee said something about being the "first" backup or something? Ok I'm going to search back my chp now ...

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    shouldnt you searce for chapter before posting? seems more logical that way......... because that makes your post completly unnecessary. altho i dont blame you i do the same sometimes [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

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    what does lee have to do with any of this? maybe he knew the sand were coming? he WAS hangin around tsunade for a while afterall

    oh, and before i forget.....
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    You guys kiss so much ass, I can smell your breath from here. As far as the flashback being necessary and justified, I believe it is and hope Kishi will back that belief with some more good storytelling, but... is it worth insulting a 12 year-old?... probably not.

    Some people like manga just for the action, and whether they're idiots or not is debatable. That this story has changed in shape isn't. Much of the levity is gone, and some people (myself included) long for the goofiness of the original couple of arcs.

    Regardless, this flashback will hopefully push the story much farther forward, if only by telling us what really happened to make Sasuke the sniveling piss-ant that he is. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] I very much hope his relationship with Shisui is made clear quickly, as that's where the answer will be found. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

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    I agree with Xtort.

    The fighting is badass, but there hasnt been a properly funny episode since Ero-Sennin and Naruto were looking for Tsunade.


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