How strong is kakashi really?

[Pyron]

i know that...but to save you more reading...i stated earlier that i think that these guys are the strongest "good" ninjas of konoha right now besides the sannins...not in the entire series.

[basey44]

back to that gai kakashi record, there is no way that would indicate which is a better ninja, if u think carefully u will remember that one of the contests which i think gai won, (maybe kakashi i cant remember) was rock paper scissors

[Mut]

that never happened.

[Knives122]

just humor him Mut@t@, anyway cant really remeber what basey is talking about so Im just going to tell him to shut up

[fate789]

ths interesting this is that kakashi became a chunin when he was what.. 7 or 8?? thas just insane.. also he is only 28 now and is very skilled.. so i think that kakashi can become VERY strongsooner or later.. maybe even a sannin..

[Mut]

26, close to 27.

[Assassin]

its true about the rock paper scissors thing.....but it wasn't in the anime. it was mentioned (or rather hinted at) by kishimoto during an interview. however, the fact remains, that we can't judge between kakashi and gai based one some stupid record, that only gai keeps track of. as somone said earlier, gai was counting the number of sand nins he knockedout too, and if he won, he would make that part of the record, no doubt.

[PSJ]

Originally posted by: Assassin
we all know that kakashi is one badass shinobi, and can own the majority of jounin from all villages. but when he encountered oro during the prelims, they made him seem like nothing.

however, later on when itachi appears, he's able to hold off that shark dude (forgot his name), and with just a kagebunshin which has half the normal chakra (Im not sure if it was mentioned, or if i just imagined it, but i think that shark guy is as strong as, if not stronger then oro). And at the same time, he faced itachi and fared pretty well imo (up untill itachi whiped out his sharingan). if it hadn't been for the mangekyo (sp) sharingan, i think kakashi could've atleast held itachi till ANBU arrived.....and thats no small feat.

granted that after the his "fight" with kabuto he trained to get back in shape, but he couldn't have improved enuff to all of a sudden be a match for S-rank criminals.

so, do u think we've seen kakashi's true strength yet? after all, he is a famous ninja feard by many shinobi and he keeps surprising us by taking on strong and stronger opponents.

no kakashi struggled with itachi and kisame is nowhere near the strength of orochimaru do you know who orochimaru is?

[Pyron]

Originally posted by: Assassin
its true about the rock paper scissors thing.....but it wasn't in the anime. it was mentioned (or rather hinted at) by kishimoto during an interview. however, the fact remains, that we can't judge between kakashi and gai based one some stupid record, that only gai keeps track of. as somone said earlier, gai was counting the number of sand nins he knockedout too, and if he won, he would make that part of the record, no doubt.

okay now correct me if i'm wrong when i ask.........who besides the sannins are "good guy" strong ninjas? yes we cannot judge which one...kakashi or gai.......is stronger but we can safely assume that their level is about even from what we know using their record as a basis. if one was more stronger than the other...the record we tilt more in favor towards one of them instead of it being about even.

forgive me if i might be repeating over and over...but peoples gots to reads earlier posts

[PSJ]

gai makes everything part of their stupid record for all we know hlaf of it can be who eats faster, dresses faster etc tec. you cant judge anything from that stupid record. and kakashi and gai are nowhere near the level of the sannin and itachi.they can beat guys like kisame. even tho he is an s class criminal like itachi i think the strength of s class can have huge diffrences(sp?)

[Mut]

i just wanna clear something up just in case people don't know this. just because you are an s-class criminal, that does not necessarily mean you are super strong. it just means you've done enough bad stuff to get up on that list.

[kakashi_gurl]

and lenas ur FORGET THAT JIRAIYA TRAINED THE 4TH!!
woah..talk about coincidence....