Naruto VS Sasuke

[wirm]

Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya
what does wirm mean? that kakashi is stronger than the 4th?

I'm afraid you're misunderstanding my post. I made no comparisons between the two people. That would be ridiculous.

My point is that people keep saying "since the 4th is stronger than Kakashi, then his jutsu is better".
That just isn't true. The skill of the inventor does not necessarily prove the level of the jutsu.

Originally posted by: Shadow
obviously not long if he teached it to sasuke in like 1 month (in the lil break they had from the 1st round of the chuunin exam to the 2nd round) and like u said, he's konoha's #1 jutsu specialist, and sasuke is not, so if it took sasuke 1 month or so to learn it, then it mustve took kakashi MUUUCH less time.

let's not get too bogged down in this, but I'll just point out that as you know, Sasuke has his Sharingan. Enough said.

If we used your logic here, then if it takes Sasuke 10 seconds to copy a super A level jutsu, that means that the jutsu is either over-rated, or Sasuke is a super A level ninja. Neither is true.

As was stated before by other people, inventing a jutsu probably takes a lot longer than just learning it from someone else. The Sharingan also messes with the rules a lot.

[Shadow]

the sharingan is different tho, correct me if im wrong, sharingan all it does is copy the hand seals and if the jutsu doesnt use hand seals, it just sees where the person is gonna attack with the jutsus. correct me if im wrong.

[Masakari]

Sharingan enhances the perception of the user amoung other things. Kind of hard to describe it because Itachi introduced new depths to it that Kakashi and Sasuke didn't even come close to.

Ever wonder how dumb it is to compare two different techniques? It's kind of like comparing some of the different advanced blood lines, saying what's better, Gaara's demon or Naruto's?. The two techniques are quite fitting for their owners actually. Sasuke has the all-out one hit kill technique (which he seems like the type to have) and Naruto will have a technique that lets him use it often, because we all know how often Naruto uses his trademark techniques (Can you count the amount of times he's used Kage Bunshin?)

[Mut]

Originally posted by: Masakari
saying what's better, Gaara's demon or Naruto's?

kyubi cannot be be compared to anything introduced in naruto, it's just too powerful.

[chambers]

for all we know chidori used by jiraya could be more effective (if he could predict the movements of course) becasue as there is a limit to the amount of times it can be used it would also be reasonable to assume that the more chakra you put into it the stronger it gets. i think its just the fact that its so inefficient and the chances of it hitting against top class opposition are minimal, therefore its better to use the 4ths tech as a missed attack will not result in a huge disadvantage.

[Rek]

excellent point... its not the size that counts... its how you use it.

I mean... its not the technique that counts, its the bad ass ninja that kills you with it -.-

[jing]

Obviously the Jiraiya's technique. He said so himself, hes a LEGEND.

By the way Kyubi is like God of the ninja world, he can do whatever he wants ........ if he is free that is.

[Board of Command]

The biggest disadvantage of chidori is that you constantly pour chakra into the ball nonstop, which drains huge amounts of mana. That's why they can only use it a few times a day before they're totally out of chakra.

The 4th's technique uses a controlled amount of chakra, then just swirls it around to give it power.

[jing]

Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command
The biggest disadvantage of chidori is that you constantly pour chakra into the ball nonstop, which drains huge amounts of mana. That's why they can only use it a few times a day before they're totally out of chakra.

The 4th's technique uses a controlled amount of chakra, then just swirls it around to give it power.

How do you know all this? How do you know that chidori constantly pour chakra into the ball nonstop. I tihnk you are assuming too much. Unless it is explained somewhere in the anime.

Besides chidori is just TOO LOUD..

[?igma]

I think every technique can be a stronger technique if you place it better then your opponent, however strong he may be. It wouldnt be the first time some big badass mofo ninja got owned because he made a mistake, and in such, that can happen at anytime anyplace. You just have to look at how they use it. As far as ive seen, Sasuke likes to have this huge intro before he finally gets to the move , where Naruto obviously , once mastered ..if ever at all >< , is capable of surprice attacking with it.
In case of the Chidori ..if the target, is blind, slow, hard of hearing, limp, without hands to form seals..yeah, it would certainly make a great assassination move..IRL however, I dont think these requirements ever occur at the same time.
So point is, Rasengan (really not yet mentioned in the anime yet, so you can point out to me if its considered a spoiler) will own Sasuke & Chidori anytime if it comes to surprise.

try pissing on me for this one Mods and semi-Mods [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

[chambers]

i dunno man. i reckon at this point in time sasukes chidori is more effective than narutos technique (even if he has mastered it now. i think at this point in time the sharingan provides such a huge stumbling block for naruto if he were to face sasuke.

[?igma]

he has not mastered it yet..there is still a third part..

[chambers]

like i said, even if he has mastered it, i was speaking hypothetically.

[?igma]

ah so "If he _would_ have mastered it now " it is.. , sorry, but I thought you were usually quite correct at spelling [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

[chambers]

actually replacing has with had would have been correct
but thats neither here nor there, my point still stands that sasuke would decimate naruto in a one on one at the moment.

[?igma]

Opinion noted [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

You still gotta tell me .. how will Sasuke locate the real Naruto ? he can only use it a couple of times, where Naruto has infinite abilities to make sure he wont get hurt [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
I am not really sure, but I believe his clones can also perfrom jutsu's ..interesting, no ? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

[chambers]

yeah so? sasuke can predict movement, so he can counter all day like neji, i just don think sasuke will fall for a trick like neji did because he knows naruto, but of course naruto would just go mental an beat everyone.

[Assertn]

sasuke wouldnt use chidori right off the bat, he would use it once he got rid of all the bunshins. And even if the enemy can hear and see the chidori, it doesnt mean he can do anything about it to avoid from being hit....assuming the attacker has the sharingan and can anticipate any counter.

[logic]

First.. wait.. yup, the name of the anime is <strong>naruto</strong>.. not sauske or neji.

Naruto has recently been proclaimed the #1 ninja at surprising people.

Your arguement is that sauske will do better then neji because he 'knows' naruto.

Wrong.

Naruto has not been with sauske in a long, long time. He's been training on his own, training with jiraiya, and other things that I don't know where the anime is yet, but I do know that sauske has not witnessed narutos development, while sauske has been in the hospital.

Yes, there is a 3rd step, I didn't know the anime had got that far yet, but obviously it hasn't gotten much farther then that.

Even with the 2nd step learned, I still believe it would conquer the chidori and sauske.

Sauske has the sharingan, and lots of talent. Granted. Naruto has kyubi, this alone.. nuff said. Plus his shadow replication, mass shadow replication, rasengan, etc. etc. etc.

Sauske has a knack for underestimating naruto, and thus being more surprised when it occurs.

In a 1v1, sauske will lose. Naruto has seemingly infinite chakra to support him, whereas sauske will lose all of his rather quickly, in his haste to use chidori (for 'flash'). Naruto will win.

[SasukesGirL]

Originally posted by: logic
First.. wait.. yup, the name of the anime is <strong>naruto</strong>.. not sauske or neji.

Naruto has recently been proclaimed the #1 ninja at surprising people.

Your arguement is that sauske will do better then neji because he 'knows' naruto.

Wrong.

Naruto has not been with sauske in a long, long time. He's been training on his own, training with jiraiya, and other things that I don't know where the anime is yet, but I do know that sauske has not witnessed narutos development, while sauske has been in the hospital.

Yes, there is a 3rd step, I didn't know the anime had got that far yet, but obviously it hasn't gotten much farther then that.

Even with the 2nd step learned, I still believe it would conquer the chidori and sauske.

Sauske has the sharingan, and lots of talent. Granted. Naruto has kyubi, this alone.. nuff said. Plus his shadow replication, mass shadow replication, rasengan, etc. etc. etc.

Sauske has a knack for underestimating naruto, and thus being more surprised when it occurs.

In a 1v1, sauske will lose. Naruto has seemingly infinite chakra to support him, whereas sauske will lose all of his rather quickly, in his haste to use chidori (for 'flash'). Naruto will win.

Werd