Ummm i think i read somewhere that the fourth tried too teach kakashi this technique but he couldn't so he made the chidori which is easier too use but aren't so good
Off topic: umm Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya why do you have that: "Guldfisk?" in your sig?.. I mean i know what it means
Think of it this way:
-Chidori is like a sledgehammer: it takes tremendous effort to use and is a one-hit thing. It takes a lot of chakra to just use it, and you can only use it a few times because it's so chakra-consuming.
-Naruto's move is like a big-ass drill: it takes tremendous skill to control, but once mastered, it is much less chakra-consuming than Chidori because all you do is thrust it once it's a sphere.
In terms of power, more chakra doesn't mean more power. Power is determined by the way chakra is concentrated. Chidori focuses a huge load of chakra on a single point, and I think some of that chakra dissipates (sparks and stuff), making it quite inefficient. The motion of the chakra is toward a single point.
Naruto's move spins the chakra in all directions and none is dissipated. It is way less chakra-consuming because the user controls how much chakra is put into the ball, unlike chidori where you keep feeding it chakra nonstop. Since the chakra spins around wildly, it makes a much bigger impact.
well, i have no idea where you got THAT from.....cause thats news to me.....Originally posted by: GokuSonGoku
Ummm i think i read somewhere that the fourth tried too teach kakashi this technique but he couldn't so he made the chidori which is easier too use but aren't so good
kakashi made the chidori, not the 4th, btw
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
I think he meant Kakashi invented chidori because the 4th's technique was too hard for him.
I don't know about you guys, but that sounds like a spoiler to me.
Anyway, I'll just ignore that statement about Kakashi being unable to use the 4th's jutsu. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
You guys keep saying "the 4th invented blah blah blah, and he's much stronger than Kakashi", or "It took the 4th x amount of years to learn blah blah". You're not taking into account how long Kakashi took to develop Chidori. The fact is, we don't know.
He's Konoha's #1 jutsu specialist, and for all we know, he's been perfecting that technique for over a decade. (I'm just making a point, it could have taken a much shorter time).
After all, Itachi knew what Chidori was when Sasuke used it, and that implies that Kakashi has had it or was working on it since before Itachi ran off. I'm not sure when this happened, but I'm pretty sure it's been quite a while.
Anyway, my vote would be that the Chidori is stronger, but much less efficient. The 4th's jutsu would win in the long run.
well not necessarily. since kakashi is already semi-famous form being the copyninja, as shown when zabuza recognized them, and the fact that people make books about other ninja who are powerful and such, i am sure that his chidori would have been in the information gathered about him.
There weren't any spoilers, people are just reading or seeing information that isn't there. Nobody said anything about the 4th teaching Kakashi the same technique, but he couldn't do. Both are very powerful assassination techniques, but Naruto's new move is more a focused attack rather than just an all-out strike.
Well it was Sasuke using chidori, not Kakashi.
I know that's not an absolute rebuttal, but I get the impression that Itachi recognized Chidori from experience
i would have to disagree with KC i think narutos tech is more of a balanced attack with possible variations to it than chidori wich is a more focused assasination attack.
the 4th's technique is probably a famous one that has been perfected over many centuries throughout ninja history....im sure people dont just spontaneously decide to create an ultra A level jutsu on their own. Kakashi's chidori doesnt have much to it, its just lots of chakra on your hand that you punch with really fast. It's a relatively new and imperfect jutsu, so its crude and inefficient.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
i dont think that was accurate information.Originally posted by: GokuSonGoku
Ummm i think i read somewhere that the fourth tried too teach kakashi this technique but he couldn't so he made the chidori which is easier too use but aren't so good
Off topic: umm Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya why do you have that: "Guldfisk?" in your sig?.. I mean i know what it means
off topic: i dont really know why i have "guldfisk?" in my sig.
except one small thing.... its an assassination technique. that kills in one hit.Originally posted by: Darkflare
well not necessarily. since kakashi is already semi-famous form being the copyninja, as shown when zabuza recognized them, and the fact that people make books about other ninja who are powerful and such, i am sure that his chidori would have been in the information gathered about him.
so, who would tell zabuza that kakashi has a hidden technique that kills in one hit? Someone that kakashi used it on?
not to mention that zabuza can't have that much room in his book
for what? to write down all kakashi's jutsu? probably not since he says he knows 1000. but the chidori isnt a sure kill jutsu, gaara survived it so i dont see any reason why a jounin wouldnt... hard to do tho..
For Chidori to be lethal it must hit a vital ogran, or else it's just like any other tech.
it wouldnt be hard for some enemy to spy on kakashi and watch him use his raikiri on someone.....
not to mention enemies that used to be allies.....like itachi and oro for example
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Originally posted by: Wirm
You guys keep saying "the 4th invented blah blah blah, and he's much stronger than Kakashi", or "It took the 4th x amount of years to learn blah blah". You're not taking into account how long Kakashi took to develop Chidori. The fact is, we don't know.
He's Konoha's #1 jutsu specialist, and for all we know, he's been perfecting that technique for over a decade. (I'm just making a point, it could have taken a much shorter time).
obviously not long if he teached it to sasuke in like 1 month (in the lil break they had from the 1st round of the chuunin exam to the 2nd round) and like u said, he's konoha's #1 jutsu specialist, and sasuke is not, so if it took sasuke 1 month or so to learn it, then it mustve took kakashi MUUUCH less time.
what does wirm mean? that kakashi is stronger than the 4th?
Chidori is more powerful, the way Kakashi and Sasuke used it shows this, firstly by killing Haku, and secondly by blasting humongous holes in walls. Also they can only use a few a day.
Jiraiya's/4th's technique is used by him several times without much effort, and only blasts some gangsters into a stall, or puts a small hole in a tree.
But, Naruto could just jump out of the way of the Chidori, or summon Gamabunta to help. The 4th's technique seems to be more versatile, because of the emphasis on controlled power. Naruto could jump around all over the place and slam a load of them into Sasuke while he was just running around trying to nail him with a Chidori.
Then again, Naruto characters are notorious for standing there and doing nothing in awe of someone elses technique. Naruto would probably stand still and wait for Sasuke to put his hand right through his ribcage.
It (Chidori) blasts Humongous holes into mountainsides, yes thats true. The ammount of Chakkra is so high in this it strains the user and has a maximum use of a couple times a day. Whereas ero-senins technique takes little Chakkra and does a cutting damage. The chidori explodes and disperses the Chakkra on contact. Ero-senins technique on contact starts drilling through and eliminating the matter its touching. Eros-senins is much more effective and powerfull because the Chakkra does not merely explode (like Chidori, or for example the Ero-senin technique after only the first 2 stages, where it gathers to a ball and explodes) but rather contnues to cut. I repeated myself alot, but the main point is the Chidori is not as destructive and efficient as ero-senins.
sanitarium, i assure you, jiraiya specifically mentions that he was holding back when he used the move on those chuunins
some of you seem to think that chidori is more explosive.....but did it look explosive when it was used against gaara or lee? no, looked more like it just pierced through.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
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