It eventually all falls down to who gets hit first...
It eventually all falls down to who gets hit first...
still though, Naruto hasnt mastered the technique yet so we dont know how many times he can do it. I think it is just a matter of how much chakra a person has. Im sure Sasuke did it a million times a day while he was learning it because he hadnt done it full strength so he had extra chakra. As for the Chidori im sure it would work just standing there and putting your arm out, there is just more force behind a thrusting motion. Jiraya also did the thursting motion the first time we saw the technique.
But anyway i also agree that the new technique is more powerful than the Chidori, mainly because Jiraya said so!!!
the technique jiraiya is teaching is more about chakra control than chakra exertion.
i'm not sure but it seems naruto's tech can be thrown, i could be wrong though. if this were the case i sould choose naruto's tech because he could use it from a distance. On the other hand if he can't throw it than i would go with sasuke not because his tech is more powerfull but because he is more skilled at using his tech at the moment than naruto is with his. Also i think sasuke is more skilled than naruto in general at the moment anyway.
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wasnt the question which tech was the strongest?
Jiraiya's technique is just as much about control as it is about exertion. That was the point of the entire second step. It takes all aspects of Naruto's experiences with chakra and condenses them all into one technique. It's not enough just to explode chakra through the hand (that's why naruto can't do it yet), but it's not enough to just be able to contain a small amount of chakra in an area either (that's why sakura can't do it, and may never be able to. May even be too much for sasuke.) That's why the technique is so hard. Requires chakra spun with ridiculous force AND must be maintained and localized.Originally posted by: Mut@t@
the technique jiraiya is teaching is more about chakra control than chakra exertion.
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precisely, chakra control. if you need to spin something with a lot of force and maintain it, you need to be able to control it well. no matter how much chakra you exert, if you can't control it, the technique is useless.Originally posted by: Uchiha Barles
Requires chakra spun with ridiculous force AND must be maintained and localized.
Yeah, but there's also the ridiculous force part, which seems to me as difficult as the control part. If you can't meet that requirement, the technique is also useless regardless of how magnificent your control may be.
"You are not free whose liberty is won by the rigour of other, more righteous souls. Your are merely protected. Your freedom is parasitic, you suck the honourable man dry and offer nothing in return. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, your time has come. This time you will stand alone and fight for yourselves. Now you will pay for your freedom in the currency of honest toil and human blood."
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basicly what both of you are trying to say is that you need both to be able to do the jutsu.
Actually there were two questions, Which is stronger and Who would win?Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya
wasnt the question which tech was the strongest?
Ero-senins technique would destroy Chidori, without much of nay effort.
Rasengan will beat Chidori because Jiraiya said so. Everyone already mentioned it - Rasengan was developed by the 4th and he used 3 years to master it. Chidori is Kakashi's tech. And the 4th is a lot more powerful than Kakashi. So there.
Naruto will beat Sasuke. Naruto beat Gaara who Sasuke cannot beat. Naruto got that "controlling the kyubi chakra" thing down. GO NARUTO!
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ok this is how its going to go down. Naruto will win cuz the new jutsu is waaaaaay stronger, just think about it for a second. It took 3 yrs for the 3rd (or 4th, keep forgetting) to learn it, and it took naruto like 3 weeks just on the 1st step or 2nd (keep forgetting, its late, sleepy) . Now for Chidori, it didnt take as long to learn it which tells u that its not that hard to master, which means its not a Super A rank level jutsu like Jiraiya's jutsu is. Also is it just me or r they making sasuke and naruto a lil bit too much alike, Naruto has the kyubi's power to power him up, Sasuke has that cursed seal which increases his chakra, Sasuke has chidori, and naruto is learning the new jutsu.the only thing different - and the deciding factor- (besides that Jiraiya's jutsu is waaaay stronger and can be done MUCH more times) is that kyubis power up to naruto is muuuuuuuuuuuch more than sasukes cursed seal, that lil power up is stronger than sasuke with the cursed seals power and thats w/o narutos own chakra, also, the fact that Naruto has WAAAAAAY much more stamina than sasuke. I bet that naruto can waste all his chakra and still have enough to use the new jutsu again and be able to dance circles around sasuke w/o him being touched.
I close by saying, about fucking time that naruto gets some play, its his anime and most of the time they make him seem weak and make sasuke - narutos rival-, i was sick and tired of seeing all this shit about sasuke, i doubt anybody gives a flyin fuck about him, he's a jerk who is mad ambitious to kill itachi, and look wat happened to Julius Caesar because he was ambitious ( and for those that dont know, he got backstabbed {literally} by his closest friend Brutus and some other ppl)
that should have answer this thread! (damn thats like an essay....hmm i wonder wat grade i would get for something like this, with the background info and my backed up opinions and all)
hmm...technique wise, i say Jiraiya's move is better because you can do it a few times without draining too much chakra.
which move is actually stronger? i find that it depends on who does the move. like if sasuke learned Jiraiya's move and used it while the chidori is used by Itachi...clearly Itachi would win.
Your grade would be fairly low due to punctuation and grammar errors [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
I believe it's an even match and depends on the circumstances in which either is used. Say Naruto has the jutsu complete.. it'd be pretty even between him and Sasuke. Chidori can cut through anything like swinging a sword through it while Naruto's takes time to tear through it (granted not much but it IS slower to do so). Basically, it's a choice between speed and brute force. Each has their own advantage in their own situation.
To be fair you would have to factor in the fact that Sasuke has the Sharingan(which must be there for the chidori) and that would more or less give him the win no matter the difference of strength of the two jutsu. Though I belive that Jiraiya's technique will be stronger than the Chidori it is just the desparity between the two people(they fight differently and both are good but not against each other... imo).
i have to disagree with some people here, i think if gaara hadnt transformed he would have been utterly hammered by sasuke, on the flip side i dont think naruto woulc have stood a chance, he just wasnt fast enough to avoid the sand at asll, let alone pierce the armour!
Strongest/efficient and also which works best in different kinds of situations. I didn't point that out, but that is what I mean when I say strongest.Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya
wasnt the question which tech was the strongest?
yea, thats what i thought you meant..
That's great [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya
yea, thats what i thought you meant..
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