Naruto VS Sasuke

[Shinji Ikari]

Which is stronger? Who would win?

I really have no idea which jutsu is the strongest, but seeing as it took 3 years for the fourth to learn it and ero-sennin is using it, i'd have to say i think that jutsu is stronger than the Chidori...

PS. Hang me if you want, but i've searched for this subject, i've looked through a lot of pages, used the search-function, so f*** off.

[Saruto]

I'm a stupid idiot and i won't spoil ever again.

Edited by Krbadass

[nayee]

after a TON of thought about this subject.. and with a few arguments from close relatives of mine (my grandma and aunt).. i realized WHO CARES!@#!@#!#111

[Mut]

good one saruto, blabber mouth.

[PSJ]

this has already been discussed a while ago in open discussion i think which means that this is a repeat thread.

[Shinji Ikari]

Don't quote spoilers/

[kaigan]

Ero-sennin's jutsu will win. that's my speculation.

[yvliew]

Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya
this has already been discussed a while ago in open discussion i think which means that this is a repeat thread.

boo.. open discussion allows spoilers. It is a different forum. Use ur pea brain....lol

[Uchiha Barles]

I say the new jutsu naruto's learning would win. Reason? It's a technique from the 4th who was a genius coming later in the series and is being learned by Naruto, which I have this suspicion (certainty?) is genetically related to the 4th, who is stronger than kakashi (another suspicion/certainty). Amounts to a bunch of nothing really, but whatever. As far as Naruto vs. Sasuke, right now, it's Naruto. Not even much of a debate there.

[PSJ]

question is what spoilers or facts if you want to call it that is there? the only spoiler has already been said in this thread. so the open discussion thread is also full of speculation and nothing more. which means that this thread is no diffrent.

[Assertn]

PSJ, you cant tell people to go talk about it in open discussion, because people in open discussion can post whatever they want with no discretion...
so just cool it on the "repeat thread" stuff, will ya? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

since the only time you've seen the full effect of jiraiya's move was on a tree......you cant ask yet which one is stronger, but as i've said in the other discussions, assassination techniques are assassination techniques.....it doesnt matter which is stronger if both are meant to kill the target in one shot. What IS important, however, is the fact that chidori seems to use up so much chakra that kakashi can only perform it 4 times, while we see jiraiya perform his move like, 50 times (sometimes even one in each hand!)....so no doubt about it, his is more efficient.

Also in terms of power, keep in mind chidori requires fast footwork to add to the power of the stab, while ero-sennin was able to knock people around just by standing there.

[Mae]

It doesn't count if it was in open discussion. Open discussion is for a different group of people, and I don't go there (usually). And could someone please delete that spoiler? Jeez....

Anyway, I don't think going head to head with the two jitsus is a good idea. In all likelyhood there would be some kind of huge explosion and both combatants would be blown to pieces......

Considering Sasuke versus Naruto, I think that Sasuke would have still won if they had ended up having their fight in the final exam. Sasuke had been pretty consistantly beating out Naruto until that point. Now Naruto has had a lot of training to catch up while Sasuke has been just lying around in a coma (lazy bum), so I think they would probably be about even.

[Uchiha Barles]

I think it would have been a much closer fight than you might think if the fight had happened in the final exam. What I'd like to find out is if Naruto's wrapping of the red chakra around him makes him fast enough to be able to deal with Sasuke's speed, even if it's not quite as fast. If the answer to that is yes, then I think Naruto would definately win. There's no way Naruto would have forgiven himself for losing to Sasuke. They're rivals, and at that point, Naruto was still the underdog, even though his powers were greater (at that point in time). That combination would have made for one fucked Sasuke.

[chambers]

iam not sure naruto was more powerfull, i doubt he could have beat gaara in a fight similar to lees fight. and sasuke was abotu to hammer gaara in to pieces.

[Uchiha Barles]

Naruto would've beaten gaara in a similar fight to lee's fight imo. He would have done just like Sasuke and Lee did: pound the crap out of him with enhanced speed and brute force (like Lee, not sasuke) with the red chakra thing. Combine that with the kage bunshin no jutsu, he might have even fared better than the other two. He didn't really have a chidori to pierce through that shell gaara made, but I'm positive one of the summoned frogs, doesn't have to be gamabunta, could do something about it. Plus, he wouldn't even tire out. Naruto leaped way above Sasuke in his training.

Edit to Mae: I don't want to underestimate Naruto's chakra potential. He beat neiji (who is clearly no joke), bounced away and frolicked as if nothing happened, and then had stamina and chakra power enough to fight and win that titanic battle again gaara. Sasuke was tiring pretty early in the match. I don't think he would have been able to avoid naruto's attacks until naruto ran out. He'd be forced to counter attack or lose. Specially if Naruto employed the shadow replication with the red chakra like he did in that jump fiesta thinggie. Same for gaara. I don't think his sand shield would have done much. He'd have to rely on his sand armor, which requires a lot of chakra. Naruto may not be quite as fast as sasuke or Rock, but with the kage bunshins and his superior strengh, he would have pounded it away pretty quickly, probably faster than Sasuke and Neiji.

[Mae]

Naruto had a lot of power, that's true, but he was still too unfocused, and he ended up wasting alot of it. Sasuke or Gaara could have avoided his attacks and waited until he ran low on chakra. Now that he's learned to focus I think he'd fair a lot better.

[Assertn]

but naruto beat gaara in a form that sasuke couldnt beat......in fact, its a form that probably none of the other genins could beat (including rock lee, if you ignore the fact that gaara broke his fall and shouldve otherwise lost that match)

[chumsy]

no doubt that chidori must be stronger since it only can be used a few times a day rather than the rotation technique naruto's learning.

at this point in the anime naruto is definately stronger than sasuke he was able to defeat gaara

[PSJ]

the chidori isnt stronger, in my opinion anyway. ill just say what was said in the open discussion thread. and this is not spoilers. the chidori can be used in one way, a strait thrust tecnique which needs to be used by someone with the sharingan if you dont hit directly on target for example getting a shoulder instead of the chest the tecnique is useless, you have only wasted lots of chakra. on the other hand the person you are attacking needs to be very skilled to avoid it since its connected to the sharingan which can predict what the opponent is doing. so basicly if you aviod this tecnique and counters you are at the advantage.

jiraiyas jutsu on the other hand is chakra compressed into tornado motions in your hand, this tecnique uses alot less chakra than chidori but is probably harder to learn. it uses alot less chakra than what the chidori does so it can be done more times than the chidori. it can be used like a strait thrust like the chidori while running, it can be used instead of a punch while fighting hand to hand, it can be released before hitting the target to counter someone that uses a strait forward tecnique, for example when someone is using the chidori you can counter it with jiraiya's jutsu and release it before impact to blow you enemy backwards you can then use the the rasengan in a running thrust move just like with the chidori. also as you saw on the tree the chidori completly tears apart what it hits. so if you miss and hit the shoulder instead of the chest it will still tea the shoulder apart and you enemy wont have one of his arms left. in other words the destructive power of jiraiyas jutsu on impact is higher than the chidori's.

so in my opinion jiraiyas jutsu is much more powerful than the chidori, the chidori is quite foolish to use if you arent in a sure to kill scenario.

EDIT: said some stuff twice, sorry... [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

[njdevs95]

The technique naruto is learning is more powerful. Look at the effect of when sasuke did his training (the marks in the rocks) and we know that the chidori requires a powerful thrusting motion to add to the power and can only be done a few times a day (4 max by kakashi). On the other hand all the power for the technique naruto is learning is concentrated in the actual technique (the swirling of the chakra) and we see jiraya simply stand still and press it against a tree and do serious damage without the chakra dissapating which means he could just keep on going and going with it. Not only that but we basically see naruto pull the technique off for the most part, though not entirely succesful yet, probably a hundred times a day and he's able to keep doing it. Also even when he only succeeded on the second part he created enough energy to blow himself back about 50 feet, create a huge ditch in the ground, and he had to be stopped by jiraya or he'd have kept going.