for those who want to discuss the manga, not a summery, I am starting a new thread. raw is out and damn dude. . something is definately up with the uchiha clan. i never really hated itachi and now i really like him, at least the old him. remember how he said that the best ninja's are the ones that can police bad ninja's? cant wait for this to get translated

i seriously think something weird was going on. true this is from sasuke's perspective so you really gotta wonder what it is that he DOESNT know, since we are seeing all the bad stuff from his POV. i never bought the itachi is totally bad, a truely bad guy would have waxed his little bro as well, avenger or no. also the fact he didnt kill sasuke in front of the sharkfin guy, beat the crap out of him enough to be convincing.

actually i am glad for this 'flashback' i didnt like the ones rehashing stuff we had already seen but its a good break from the constant battles, we learn more about one of the most interesting characters and about one of the things most debated about.

ok, after reading the inane version. . . WTF. dad is obviously obsessed with something, maybe status of family or whatever but sasuke seems to love his brother even though everyone just talks about itachi.

the comment by itachi, that we have to hate each other to overcome our barriers. it explains the 'hate more' statement, although not the killing every other uchiha. i definatly think he was contacted by akatsuki or came upon them somehow during his missions. he definatly shows a weird attitude, even ignoring his fathers behavior.