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    Nintendo DS

    frankly i welcome PSP although i wont pledge my support to it. at least there is a challenge for Nintendo handheld department. this will bump up Nintendo quality because now they finally have a worthy opponent. bring it on Sony. bring it on

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    and u kno with these 2 giants comming out... Zodiac will have no room in the gaming industry lol... and please dont talk about ngage qd it's just not goood

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    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    if you're referring to metroid prime 2, i suggest you actually play it first
    even though you can lock on to another player, the game is obviously built around this in such a way that it still involves alot of skill and strategy. Just dont think of it as an FPS
    I meant the DS one - I got Metroid 1 2nd hand to see what its like. Yeah I've got a mate who was telling me its not an actual FPS, and from what little I've played thats pretty clear...I guess I'll see from the demo if the multiplayer is any good on it...

    In terms of backwards compatibility the DS will only play GBA games on 1 player - no gameboy/gameboy colour games. Which is a pain in the arse cos I play the old version of Tetris more than half of my GBA games - I was gonna sell the GBA but now I might just get shut of some of the games that are snes/megadrive remakes...

    Originally posted by: Deblas
    wow you're friend going to america. thats gonna be one hell of a long flight
    Yep - probably about 12 hours - but he's pretty rich so he's almost used to it now...last new years he went to Japan and Hong Kong for 3 weeks! (spent most of the time in Japan, went to Hong Kong for a week or so as well). I think this is his 3rd time to America, and he went to Canada to go skiing as well!

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    woa. rich boy. what does his parents do?

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    Not sure, but its his dad who's pretty rich so he basically goes abroad with him every now and again...its just his dad seems to have cool taste in holidays.

    On the DS - is it sold out in America? I'm tempted to try and import it, or is that too risky? I'd like one to play over xmas rather than having to wait till after the new year...by which time uni'll have started again...might try yesasia if they get some japanese models in stock or something (they're out of stock at the moment).

    Also, I'm not too familiar with PDA style stuff - is the touch screen liable to scratch with the stylus or the thumb pad?

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    i dunno, but im trying out an online deal that should get me a free DS (much like the way the iPod deal worked, except without the pyramid scheme part)
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    Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
    at first i was thinking, wow ds is going to be hot, now...well its not worth it for me. it seems nintendo just has the same games recycled on their portables for the last 10 yrs, not many of the big developers are doing anything for the ds and nintendo cant make all the games for their system. the double screen had big possibilities but it looks like its just a gimmick. the chatting was a great idea, but for only 30 yards, seems stupid. my friend brought his in to class today, and my hands felt a little cramped. the psp will probably destroy the ds, nintendo should just stop releasing consoles in the us unless theyre going to have a system that can compete with sony.
    Again, citing Deblas as he is correct, Nintendo is the only game maker to dominate the portables market for over 20 years now. Lynx, Turbo Duo, and many others had neat things to them, and ultimately they all failed. Sony's success in the gaming market came from a really bad call on Nintendo, having scrapped their add-on system to the SNES and Sony selling it with minimal tweaks to the general public. A better example is to look at the PS2 in comparison to other systems. Since Sony jumped the gun on the system race, they're biting the bullet now in terms of cutting-edge gaming. I've seen the gaming footage for Killzone, and I find it far from the Halo-killer our Sony rep claims it to be. Compare their online gaming to that of Microsofts, which boasts new content downloads, voice chat for all games, scoreboards, and cross-game matchmaking; all of this easily leaves Sony in the dust. I also call you out to cite innovation: Sure, Sony has the Eyetoy. I own one, I think it's neat. How many other people do? There are stores actually still sitting on launch Eyetoys. Nintendo created a system that can use a seperate, handheld system to unlock hidden features, be used as a controller extension, and give deeper gameplay options to games supported by the GBA link feature. But Sony has a camera.

    You can cite the quantity of games as a pro for the system, but I see it as a con. Sure, there's easily as many PS2 games as there are Xbox and Gamecube games combined, but how many are actually worth owning? Did you buy that game where you flew around a house as a mosquito? What about Fantavision? Or any of those games from the developers that went from making $10 PSone games to making $20 PS2 games? This isn't to say that Xbox/GCN don't have their fair share of shitty games, but they certainly have a much better track record with quality exclusive gaming. Some of their better exclusive games can take 2-3 sequels before they have what people want in the game, but by that time people have moved on to a new series. I own and enjoy some MGS3, as well as some Ratchet and Clank along with the very small handful of exclusive titles; but then stack the quality of those up to Xbox with: Mech Assault, Crimson Skies, Ninja Gaiden, Halo 1 or 2, Project Gotham, Midtown Madness 3, Star Wars: KOTOR, Steel Battalion... and GCN with Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Star Fox, Custom Robo, Paper Mario, Pikmin, Smash Brothers, F-Zero... I can name more games for both of those that I own/won't trade than I can for PS2. I just don't have confidence in Sony. Sure, they have the power to buy some really good gadgets, but they can't develop a game nor a system of their own accord worth a shit.

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    You do bring up a good point in the fact that sony jumped the gun on the PS2, but now nintendo forcing it's game deveolpers to jump the gun to atain that coveted launch game status. This will Kill some of the clout the DS was hopeing for the graphics seem lower than what sony is boasting. Granted the touch screen is a cool gimick it just give the game developers more to fuck up or forget about and not utilize porperly. The PSP does have it's problems as well like low battery life and formate specific games that can't be hacked very easliy and seem to region locked(with no mode chip in sight). I have a feeling Nintendo is going to have a competition whenn it comes to sony hand held wise. Platform wise everyone learded thair lesson about jumping the gun adn not having enough parts in stock and all that shit. So now it comes down to who has the better games.

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    yea its really hard. psp will problably put ff games in it and ds has mario and metroid. so its a pretty tough decision

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    innovation > repetition

    how many FF games do you guys need, anyway?
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    but really i was convinced that the PSP woudl be miles better than the DS now im not so sure. i know ill be buying a DS when metroid comes out. unless they launch with a psp and a FF game (wich aint gonna happen)

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    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    innovation > repetition

    how many FF games do you guys need, anyway?
    As many as possible (not including stuff like X-2 which sucked and XI which I can't play)...though its kinda the same for me with games like Mario Kart.

    I wouldn't get the PSP even if it had FF games on it though...I think I saw on gamespot there is gonna be an action/rpg Final Fantasy VII thing (a prequel I think it was), but I dunno if thats the same one that got released on mobile phones or whatever...Before Crisis or something I think it was called...

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    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    innovation > repetition

    how many FF games do you guys need, anyway?
    more and alots more.........can't got enough.

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    can the final fantasy 11 played offline?

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    Dont talk bad about FF games! most of them were good! and also it kept squaresoft from going bankrupt [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] (for a while atleast)

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    Originally posted by: Swallow Your Soul
    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    innovation > repetition

    how many FF games do you guys need, anyway?
    As many as possible (not including stuff like X-2 which sucked and XI which I can't play)...though its kinda the same for me with games like Mario Kart.

    I wouldn't get the PSP even if it had FF games on it though...I think I saw on gamespot there is gonna be an action/rpg Final Fantasy VII thing (a prequel I think it was), but I dunno if thats the same one that got released on mobile phones or whatever...Before Crisis or something I think it was called...
    hey, with mario kart every release is drastically different than the prior one (with the exception of the gba version anyway)
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    RE: Nintendo DS

    "Again, citing Deblas as he is correct, Nintendo is the only game maker to dominate the portables market for over 20 years now."

    ok i said the games nintendo makes are recycled, i didnt say they havent dominated or whatever else you fanboys said. i said 10 years, because i got my first gameboy about 10 years ago, and seeing the same games for ds and sp is stupid, lets see a little innovation, who wants to play donkey kong country again in the same graphics on sp, or super mario 64 again on the ds?
    nintendo needs to understand the audience that made them in america is older, and they need to cater to them not the kids they used to be. adults will buy more games than little kids. and now in america sony has already set the bar as the top in the gaming market, more people will buy the sony console than a nintendo console. feels bad to say but lets face it, one more garbage console and nintendo wont bother releasing systems in us.

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    Nintendo DS

    if by recycled.....you mean totally unique

    although it sounds like you're talking about the few games for gba that are ports of older games
    in which case, then dont buy them! they arent meant for you, they are meant for people who either never grew up to those games in the past, or sold them long ago when they upgraded their consoles, or maybe just want a portable alternative. It's not like rereleasing those games will set back production of newer games much, since its just a revamp of an already existant engine.

    and btw, your precious FF series does the same thing [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
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    Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
    "Again, citing Deblas as he is correct, Nintendo is the only game maker to dominate the portables market for over 20 years now."

    ok i said the games nintendo makes are recycled, i didnt say they havent dominated or whatever else you fanboys said. i said 10 years, because i got my first gameboy about 10 years ago, and seeing the same games for ds and sp is stupid, lets see a little innovation, who wants to play donkey kong country again in the same graphics on sp, or super mario 64 again on the ds?
    nintendo needs to understand the audience that made them in america is older, and they need to cater to them not the kids they used to be. adults will buy more games than little kids. and now in america sony has already set the bar as the top in the gaming market, more people will buy the sony console than a nintendo console. feels bad to say but lets face it, one more garbage console and nintendo wont bother releasing systems in us.
    jajaja youre right about that. in every new hand held that nintendo takes out has a Donkey Kong 2 game or other old games. i do think that nintendo has changed a little making games for more mature audiences

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    The reason why Donkey Kong still exist today, it's because is a popular game. I think gameboy is like a replacement for Super Nintendo console. We had play Donkey Kong for Super Nintendo before, and here is it again but only in smaller size.

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