But with that they'll still have the child stigma for a long time and sony has been trying there best at makeing a dent in the hand held market and the PSP might do it. The spects are crazy, granted the batery life is a little lousy the DS isn't much better. But back to the more adult subject. Nintendo will lose it's children label but at a loss. Cuz parents are seeing all the violent games for nintendo and will stop (cuz they're stupid, and ignorant) buying the games and even the systems. Sony has always been a more adult sytem so parents just don't give a shit anymore. Nintendo will take years to earn that kinda of not caring from the parent front.