Yeah! These are my thoughts exactly.Originally posted by: EpoC
how do a person know if it's fate or not? You may belive that you made a choice but it was your destiny to make that choice.
Maybe it was fate that made me start watching naruto. And the choice I made was my destiny.
So how do I know If I have a free will, If every choice I make is could be my fate.
fate is the illusion of free will
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He did believe that yes, but his ideals were quickly debunked after Naruto defeated him. And it was also apparent when he discovered the truth behind his father's death. That he chose to die so he could do so in the faith he was doing what he wanted, and not going by what fate dealt him by being born into the other branch.
Neji believed in fate just cause of the head and branch family thing. hes just mad about the head family
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this is just stupid since this discussion is made on something a character said. the words jiraiya said has no signifcans to anything but what neji said was significant since naruto proved him wrong.
You are taking this too serious.
Discussing this is worthless:
1. The world of Naruto is fictitious. Whether or not Board of Command is right is irrelevant.
2. It cannot be proven whether or not fate exists in Naruto, since as someone mentioned before, Naruto may have been going along with his predetermined fate by defeating Neji.
Fate is in the hands of the person. Look at Rock Lee and how weak he was before he met Gai-Sensei. "Practice beats genius." Everything depends on the factors, like who you are facing, how hard you trained (in the wonderful world of Naruto), etc.
I tried my best...
i don't believe that at all. If neji truly believed that fate stuff why did he try so hard as a member of the branch family (which is subservant to the head family) to surpass the head family (developing moves only used by head family (kaiten), trying to kill Hinata) ? Hes a hypocrite.
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err ok it was explained over the course of like 15 episodes so I can see why you missed parts. Neji is a genius, IE he has tons of natural talent and didn't really train to get where he was skill wise. The father of the Head family told Neji he wishes he was his child as he saw the talent ect. So he didn't work so hard but rather it came normaly. He wanted to kill Hinata because she was a member of the head family who killed his dad.Originally posted by: DeathscytheVII
i don't believe that at all. If neji truly believed that fate stuff why did he try so hard as a member of the branch family (which is subservant to the head family) to surpass the head family (developing moves only used by head family (kaiten), trying to kill Hinata) ? Hes a hypocrite.
Well what ever happens is fate I guess. If somethings about to happen and its said that its fate, then you interfere and change it, it must have been "fated" that you would change it... because you did it, and it happened. Fate doesnt make any sense to me.
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I agree with Neji.
If it is your destiny to break your fate, then you will break your fate.
Neji's comment to Naruto are wrong because he don't know what Naruto's fate is.
I agree with rdkenshin
That doesn't make any sense though, if it is your destiny to break your fate then it you were doing what was your destiny so you in fact didn't break your fate as you put it. Either way there is no real way to tell.Originally posted by: kupalmaru
I agree with Neji.
If it is your destiny to break your fate, then you will break your fate.
Neji's comment to Naruto are wrong because he don't know what Naruto's fate is.
I agree with rdkenshin
isnt fate and destiny more or less the same thing?
ya, I only used two instead of one because kupalmaru did =)Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya
isnt fate and destiny more or less the same thing?
First of all how do you know if your even destined to being with? How can you also be certain that it IS your destiny to do this and to do that?
Originally posted by: jing
First of all how do you know if your even destined to being with? How can you also be certain that it IS your destiny to do this and to do that?
That is why Neji's fate talk about Naruto's is wrong, because Neji don't know Naruto's fate. You need to be an oracle or somethjng to predict.
If your father is a fisherman, Neji think that your are going to be also a fisherman. Probably this is what Neji have in mind about fate. Neji don't think that you can be a scientist or something.
But Neji is right about fate already being written for someone. Like Jing said the only problem is you dont know the future or your destiny.
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I agree with Neji.
If it is your destiny to break your fate, then you will break your fate.
Neji's comment to Naruto are wrong because he don't know what Naruto's fate is.
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Ah, a deep philosophical argument. Well, who's to say whether fate is pre-determined or not? I mean, people will argue that you do things because you chose to do them. But are you really choosing them? Maybe fate is forcing you to choose them while giving you the illusion of free will. One of the early posts says something about "You open your eyes because you chose to close them." But DID you choose to close them? Perhaps they were going to close at that moment regardless of what you decided. You have to realize, though, there's already one future ahead of us... It might not exist yet, but it will only turn out one way. Are we choosing that? Or is it turning out the only way it can? Ultimately, it doesn't really matter. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] So. ... That's it.
Well, fate is pre-determined, thats the idea of the word =P But ya, there is no way for me at very least to tell if fate is controlling what we do or not but I can belive what I wish(or can I? oooheoooohhh) and arguing is going to do very little.Originally posted by: Halo2298
Ah, a deep philosophical argument. Well, who's to say whether fate is pre-determined or not? I mean, people will argue that you do things because you chose to do them. But are you really choosing them? Maybe fate is forcing you to choose them while giving you the illusion of free will. One of the early posts says something about "You open your eyes because you chose to close them." But DID you choose to close them? Perhaps they were going to close at that moment regardless of what you decided. You have to realize, though, there's already one future ahead of us... It might not exist yet, but it will only turn out one way. Are we choosing that? Or is it turning out the only way it can? Ultimately, it doesn't really matter. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] So. ... That's it.
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