ok please no more of these summaries. stop the evil.
i agree with the pervert
my artwork : http://rasendori.deviantart.com/
What's the problem?
its bad enough we read the raw and cant really read the text with the images, but a summary without even the pics is just bad.
tell us if a raw comes out but dont do these summaries
Meh, I'll leave in the summaries but next time I'll warn people so that they know not to read the topic.
The raw is out at Narutofan, but it's crap quality.
I think I know precisely what I mean
when I say it's a schpadoinkle day
why the hell is it that color!?
ok this chapter is gonna suck
Why do people hate flashbacks that are new? I mean if it was flashbacks of something we've already seen then fair enough, but the flashbacks in this chapter are all new, so why the hate?
we hate because this is not the time for a flash back jsut kick each others ass and have the flash back afterwards now we get all hyped waiting for what's gonna happen and we get a stupid flashback, the flash back might be a good one but still i wanted to see some fighting screw sasuke's past we all know he's a bitch anyway so why restate the facts again
i guess we're gonna find out more about the uchiha clan... man, it's gonna be gay as hell if itachi isnt the one who killed his clan, i'ma be like "wtf mate^^"
that would really suck and be the most idiotic plot twist ever
Let's just quickly recap. All we know FOR SURE about Itachi's past, not counting whatever 220's words are, is that a) Sasuke said he had unbearably good Shuriken skills. b) He showed his brother his 'murder' of the Uchiha clan, which could easily have been a fabrication, using the mangekyou sharingan. (After all, I somehow doubt that at any time Kakashi was stabbed by 70,000 Katanas, or even he would not have lived through it, but the mangekyou sharingan made him live through that.) c) He always tells Sasuke that he's too weak, and he doesn't hate enough, that he should get stronger, which started that very night.
d) He was in the room RIGHT after his parents died for sure.
Given these facts, I think it would be significantly less intelligent to make Itachi the murderer, when you consider that the last thing you'd want to do, being the murderer of your entire clan, is leave your brother alive, and tell him to get strong enough to kill you. I guarantee you there are plenty of people who can kill Itachi, if he wanted to commit suicide or test his limits, they would all do very nicely. We also know that at several points he could have killed Kurenai, but didn't. The same goes for Sasuke. If Itachi was a cold blooded murderer, these things would make very little sense at all. However, if on the other hand, he arrived after the murder had taken place and/or failed to stop it somehow, it would make a LOT of sense to keep Sasuke's focus on him, rather than having sasuke look for the real killer, and at the same time, if Sasuke DID get strong enough to beat Itachi, he'd be strong enough to defend himself from the killer. There really is a lot more going for the 'not killer' idea than there is for the 'killer' idea. And besides, don't animes have enough bad ass evil characters that only fight to test their limits already? You'd all really begrudge us one extremely badass and enigmatic good guy? Seriously. Get over it.
Originally posted by: Kalean
Let's just quickly recap. All we know FOR SURE about Itachi's past, not counting whatever 220's words are, is that a) Sasuke said he had unbearably good Shuriken skills. b) He showed his brother his 'murder' of the Uchiha clan, which could easily have been a fabrication, using the mangekyou sharingan. (After all, I somehow doubt that at any time Kakashi was stabbed by 70,000 Katanas, or even he would not have lived through it, but the mangekyou sharingan made him live through that.) c) He always tells Sasuke that he's too weak, and he doesn't hate enough, that he should get stronger, which started that very night.
d) He was in the room RIGHT after his parents died for sure.
Given these facts, I think it would be significantly less intelligent to make Itachi the murderer, when you consider that the last thing you'd want to do, being the murderer of your entire clan, is leave your brother alive, and tell him to get strong enough to kill you. I guarantee you there are plenty of people who can kill Itachi, if he wanted to commit suicide or test his limits, they would all do very nicely. We also know that at several points he could have killed Kurenai, but didn't. The same goes for Sasuke. If Itachi was a cold blooded murderer, these things would make very little sense at all. However, if on the other hand, he arrived after the murder had taken place and/or failed to stop it somehow, it would make a LOT of sense to keep Sasuke's focus on him, rather than having sasuke look for the real killer, and at the same time, if Sasuke DID get strong enough to beat Itachi, he'd be strong enough to defend himself from the killer. There really is a lot more going for the 'not killer' idea than there is for the 'killer' idea. And besides, don't animes have enough bad ass evil characters that only fight to test their limits already? You'd all really begrudge us one extremely badass and enigmatic good guy? Seriously. Get over it.
Hehe i said pritty much exactly the same thing in a thread i made up, of what me and some of my mates were saying [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] i agree with wat u've said
WTF you talking about? Itachi and Uchiha suck! Everything non-Naruto sux!Originally posted by: Kalean
Let's just quickly recap. All we know FOR SURE about Itachi's past, not counting whatever 220's words are, is that a) Sasuke said he had unbearably good Shuriken skills. b) He showed his brother his 'murder' of the Uchiha clan, which could easily have been a fabrication, using the mangekyou sharingan. (After all, I somehow doubt that at any time Kakashi was stabbed by 70,000 Katanas, or even he would not have lived through it, but the mangekyou sharingan made him live through that.) c) He always tells Sasuke that he's too weak, and he doesn't hate enough, that he should get stronger, which started that very night.
d) He was in the room RIGHT after his parents died for sure.
Given these facts, I think it would be significantly less intelligent to make Itachi the murderer, when you consider that the last thing you'd want to do, being the murderer of your entire clan, is leave your brother alive, and tell him to get strong enough to kill you. I guarantee you there are plenty of people who can kill Itachi, if he wanted to commit suicide or test his limits, they would all do very nicely. We also know that at several points he could have killed Kurenai, but didn't. The same goes for Sasuke. If Itachi was a cold blooded murderer, these things would make very little sense at all. However, if on the other hand, he arrived after the murder had taken place and/or failed to stop it somehow, it would make a LOT of sense to keep Sasuke's focus on him, rather than having sasuke look for the real killer, and at the same time, if Sasuke DID get strong enough to beat Itachi, he'd be strong enough to defend himself from the killer. There really is a lot more going for the 'not killer' idea than there is for the 'killer' idea. And besides, don't animes have enough bad ass evil characters that only fight to test their limits already? You'd all really begrudge us one extremely badass and enigmatic good guy? Seriously. Get over it.
Okay, seriously though. I couldn't agree more. Itachi's motives are unclear, even to Kisame. Saying Itachi is a complete bad guy is just looking at it from the surface.
should change the show name to itachi .. an this forum the lovers & haters of itachi. notice how most topics somehow lead to itachi talk..
if they do tell the story of the Uchiha clan it going to be from sasuke point of view, so no matter what itachi killed his family.... until itachi himself says otherwise. which i think itachi will be killed before he has the chance, not like anyone is really wanting to hear him tell why he did such a thing maybe kabuto cause his a sticky beck.
I think this flashback will impact the story a good deal.
After this Naruto will lose to Sasuke and Sasuke will go straigt to Orochimaru.
Naruto will shortly after meet Itachi again, asking him why he did that, he obviously was a caretaking brother. Then we will know the truth. Plotwise, I can't figure out why else Sasuke should tell Naruto that stuff, as explaining Itachi as caretaking doesn't really proof his anger against him.
This would also give birth to the following possible scenario:
Orochimaru killed the Uchiha clan in order to obtain the sharingan but the Uchihas all shut it down, rather dying than handing over their secret. The fact that Itachi survived would fit into Oro's statement that Itachi is stronger than he is - he couldn't kill him.
Based on that we could imagine Itachi joining Akatsuki to spy on Orochimaru's advance on Sasuke just like Jiraiya did, tailing Oro after he left the leaf. Even Itachi allying with the leaf genins to get Sasuke back would be possible. Remeber Tsunade saying that the sharingan is a major weapon of the leaf and should not be lost.
After Itachi clarified the events, I don't think she would oppose his return.
Would be a nice plot twist and provide a nice new base for the story to advance from. It would also make up for some nice fights, a large scale attack Leaf vs Sound for example. Naruto, Itachi, Kakashi, Gai, Lee, Jiraiya - all side by side. Great fights indeed.
Always remember [iirc]: Itachi is japanese for weasel - and the weasel is the natural enemy of the snake.
Edit:
@viciousHyuuga:
well, Itachi either provides THE major plottwist so far that was built up from chapter 1 on as I outlined above, or he plays a big role in the important foreshadowing "Naruto vs Akatsuki" arc. Yet little about him is known, besides the impression that he will be very important. It's only natural that he gets a great deal of interest.
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i don't understand people who think itachi isn't a bad guy.
this is why i think itachi is a bad guy.
he's a psycho. he can be be all loving and friendly (like how he is shown in ch 220), but inside, he's really a crazy maniac capable of killing everyone. so going back to the uchiha massacre. that night he does kill everyone using them as his measuring stick (who cares if we didn't see him do the actual killing, what's to say that he didn't do it?). sasuke runs his prissy ass home and finds everything desecrated and cries. blah blah itachi let's him live because he knows that only an uchiha can beat him so he wants sasuke to become stronger and fight him later for another measure of his strength. that's why he only killed the uchihas.
BUT, then people could say "well, why doesn't he fight people like sannins or other kages if he really wanted to test his strength?"
answer: i dunno. maybe itachi can't get over the fact that only uchihas are capable of killing him that's why he doesn't bother with others. my theory isn't sound or anything but it's the most logical to me. i'll be waiting for someone to call me dense or something because i'm not thinking more deeply into the situation like most of you have.
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i don't think this theory (which i think is the most common) is even remotely possible cuz it's absolutely illogical.
this theory is just plain dumb. if orochimaru wanted to take any of the uchiha's i'm almost 100% positive that he could have. i am sure that orochimaru could've kicked everyone's ass 5-6 years ago and i doubt that itachi would've been able to stop him then. and IF orochimaru did do it, why didn't he just go after itachi or sasuke then? was itachi that much stronger than orochimaru? why i guess itach is either considerably stronger than orochimaru or orochimaru is just weak as hell (which he is not so i guess it's the first one). also, wouldn't it be a lot easier and safer for itachi to just tell sasuke that someone else was the real killer and they should get stronger together to go beat the real killer?someone else killed the uchiha clan (probably orochimaru because he wants the sharingan) so itachi decided to take the blame. this makes sure that sasuke doesn't go for the real killer and get killed. sasuke ends up persuing itachi (the accused killer) and doesn't bump into the real killer and in the end itachi let's him know of everything.
if there are more theories which you guys think is more logical than what i wrote, let me know.
and as for itachi not killing the people he's faced so far. he can't kill any of those people. this isn't FMA. anyone that has been introduced and given a name cannot be killed in this story. him killing any of the jounins he fought is just stupid.
Yeah, if itachi really did care for sasuke or is the *good guy* he wouldn't have had sasuke to lead a dark life by making it think its itachi that killed everyone..
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