Naruto 88 Discussion ****Spoilers****

[Jessper]

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
this is interesting.......
in the convo between oro and kabuto (the scene with the spider and butterflies) where kabuto was talking about tsunade starting the idea of having a medical specialist in squads, both AA and the manga have different responses for oro, although both of them seem to make sense

in AA's release oro says...
"The countless wars brought about many advances. They were made possible by the many sacrifices. When a person loses something, he is able to realize the importance. And what created one of the legendary Sannin, who has been praised as a medical specialist, were the sacrifices."

in the manga, oro says...
"Hmm...that might be a good system even for veteran fighters. But such a system would only increase the casualties of war. It's human nature that people wont realize the true value of something unless they lose it. And whoever told the story of the medical specialist who's from the group of 3 legendary ninjas...BECAME THE VICTIMS OF THAT NINJA"

I don't get the manga version, having medics increases the casualty rate? Also whats with people that tell storys of Tsunade becoming her victim? I think that the Anime's text makes more sense unless there is something we just don't know yet I guess...

[GreenSpan]

Don't Forget Dogs, There are Dogs, Snakes, Frogs and Slugs.

I hope Jiriaya will show the full power of the technique he is currently learning Naruto.

[Luchio]

Wow concentrating is really powerful, the way the ball just exploded in his face, too bad Naruto just learned how to use his concentration.

But now that he knows, I suppose all his techniques could benefit from it.

[Assertn]

Originally posted by: Jessper
I don't get the manga version, having medics increases the casualty rate? Also whats with people that tell storys of Tsunade becoming her victim? I think that the Anime's text makes more sense unless there is something we just don't know yet I guess...

i think it makes sense. He's saying that if there are less casualties, then wars would become longer and increasingly violent, because the sacrifices wouldnt be as evident.

[Mae]

I don't know, but I had a different take on it. In the AA version Oro talks about wartime medical advances created by sacrifices (like ninjas sacrificing their lives for their village). Then he talks about not realizing the importance of something until it is lost (I assume he's talking about the arms, legs, etc lost by ninjas in the war but is thinking about his own arms). Then he talks about Tsunade's specialty coming from the sacrifices.

IMO he is talking about transplantation, where one person regains something they have lost as a result of someone else's sacrifice (death), and he is hoping to force or pursuade Tsunade to transplant someone else's arms onto his shoulders... The manga translation is a little more sinister and may refer to using enemies as unwilling donors.

I could be totally off, but I would bet money that Tsunade is responsible for Kakashi's sharingan.

[Jessper]

Originally posted by: Mae
I don't know, but I had a different take on it. In the AA version Oro talks about wartime medical advances created by sacrifices (like ninjas sacrificing their lives for their village). Then he talks about not realizing the importance of something until it is lost (I assume he's talking about the arms, legs, etc lost by ninjas in the war but is thinking about his own arms). Then he talks about Tsunade's specialty coming from the sacrifices.

IMO he is talking about transplantation, where one person regains something they have lost as a result of someone else's sacrifice (death), and he is hoping to force or pursuade Tsunade to transplant someone else's arms onto his shoulders... The manga translation is a little more sinister and may refer to using enemies as unwilling donors.

I could be totally off, but I would bet money that Tsunade is responsible for Kakashi's sharingan.

Very nice, I never even saw this but it sounds solid to me.

[The_Fourth]

It makes sense, after all Tsunade is a medical specialist. But we will still have to wait to know how Kakashi got it.

[Assertn]

no i think he was implying more that the advances tsunade made was because of sacrifices she herself made in the past....which makes sense since he says that "When a person loses something, he is able to realize the importance."

it defeats the purpose of it being a "sacrifice" if you're just taking somebody else's limbs, not to mention you wouldnt be "losing" anything if you do that.....somebody else would instead.

although im not sure how one would actually HEAL arms that were removed from the soul. Steal them from another soul, perhaps?

[Zabuza No Jutsu]

Sorry if it's been mentioned before but hey...i dont' have alllllll day to read through previous posts. OMG WTF! The very FIRST thing we hear in the episode....sakura....."sasuke-kun". FOr God's Sake! When is she ever gonna call him just plain old sasuke? Grrrr kill sakura!

[Uchiha-Itachi]

Tsunade > Kabuto

Tsunade > Orochimaru

obviously.. yare yare... it's shorter they way i typed [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

[SaSuKeRuLeS]

i doubtt that his arms will be fixed... you cant fix it because his arms were eaten from his soul... so i really do seriously doubt it

[NomoZ]

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
although im not sure how one would actually HEAL arms that were removed from the soul. Steal them from another soul, perhaps?

I like this theory...very Orochimaru like

[ZakuHan]

I can foresee no possible way for Orochimaru to regain use of his arms. Even if he gets new ones from someone else transplanted, he still will not be able to use them.

The only way I can see to get them back is to use the Death God jutsu that Sarutobi used on him. But then if he did that he'd die, so it defeats the purpose.

And obviously, confronting Tsunade like he wants to kill her is not the way to go about getting her help for anything. I honestly have no idea what he's planning by finding her, other than maybe eliminating a candidate for Hokage, though I dunno if he knows Jiraiya is out and about with Naruto also.

[wirm]

Maybe she'll remove his feet and transplant another pair of hands there [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]


Just kidding, he's probably just gonna get some pain medicine and get sent off.

[ZakuHan]

Yeah, hehe. Give him some Vicadin [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] Have a loopy snake-summoning no-armed grumpy ass Michael Jackson lookalike for a villain. Scary.

[RaZzy]

Originally posted by: Masamune
check the first time tsunade gets 7-7-7

its an interesting picture from the drawers , a hint to whats to come

cool ... she gets a frog on the left...a slug in the middle and a snake on the right <-- the three sannin
hmm what does it mean.. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

[z0diac]

I found plot error! how can Oro summon huge snake if he cant preform jutsu with his hands O_o, or how did he kill the guy in the bedroom with no hands? ...
And how does he expect to beat Tsunade who is a sannin with no hands O_o o_O

I still cant believe he's still alive, havent we had enough of Oro, bring back itachi and his gang i say [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img]

[Assertn]

oh geez, its been mentioned half a dozen times already [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

we arent sure how he summoned the huge snake, but most people accepted the fact that kabuto probably did it
and the guy in the bedroom.....well.....he can probably still use his head, tongue, and legs to do stuff, so who knows

[hopeknight]

Originally posted by: z0diac
I found plot error! how can Oro summon huge snake if he cant preform jutsu with his hands O_o, or how did he kill the guy in the bedroom with no hands? ...
And how does he expect to beat Tsunade who is a sannin with no hands O_o o_O

I still cant believe he's still alive, havent we had enough of Oro, bring back itachi and his gang i say [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img]

well, he can still swings his arm like useless stumps, so I guess he slapped the poor guy to death. as for fighting tsunade, maybe he'll try biting her or something, since he can't pull her hair without hands.

perhaps orochimaru didn't summon the snake, perhaps kabuto did.

[LaZie]

Its called the Law of Conservation =P


Kill Sarutobi, lose arms =P