oh yeah one more thing from me.
the part where jiraiya shares his ice lolly with naruto was pretty touching. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
oh yeah one more thing from me.
the part where jiraiya shares his ice lolly with naruto was pretty touching. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Yeah it was. Felt so bad for Naruto that episode. Guess Jiraiya isn't so heartless, perverted bastard.
To Moo (below): Anyone can come up with their own technique. If you're the one who came up with it, then you're the first to know it. Anyone who knows it after must have somehow, directly or indirectly gotten it from you. It's entirely possible that the 4th taught the technique to Jiraiya. If I'm not mistaken, he also taught the death seal technique to the third.
"You are not free whose liberty is won by the rigour of other, more righteous souls. Your are merely protected. Your freedom is parasitic, you suck the honourable man dry and offer nothing in return. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, your time has come. This time you will stand alone and fight for yourselves. Now you will pay for your freedom in the currency of honest toil and human blood."
- Inquisitor Czevak
Didnt Jiraya teach the 4th the technique?Originally posted by: Shadow-wolf
When we say that it took the 4th 3 years to master this technique, aren't we really saying that it took him 3 years to "create" the technique.
Just a thought, as I can't see the 4th Teaching his teacher how to do it?
How cant you see that? He was Hokage, he surpassed Jiraiya.Originally posted by: moo-san
Didnt Jiraya teach the 4th the technique?Originally posted by: Shadow-wolf
When we say that it took the 4th 3 years to master this technique, aren't we really saying that it took him 3 years to "create" the technique.
Just a thought, as I can't see the 4th Teaching his teacher how to do it?
And to shadow wolf, he may have created it but it still probably took him time to master it.
i remember jiraiya saying its the technique that the fourth left behind, which means that its probably him that created the jutsu
mastering a technique is the hardest when your the first one to attempt it, if its easy than anyone could have thought of doing it
try turning the volume up on other applicationsP.S. How come when I play the more recent episodes, the sound kinda skips every few minutes?
like when i watch stuff on kazaa with low volume, then i watch stuff on wmp, it skips even if you have it on full volume (in wmp), so what i did was go to kazaa and turn up the volume on that, it solved my problem, i dont think its a codec problem or anything
yeah 4th even surpassed 3rdOriginally posted by: NomoZ
How cant you see that? He was Hokage, he surpassed Jiraiya.Originally posted by: moo-san
Didnt Jiraya teach the 4th the technique?Originally posted by: Shadow-wolf
When we say that it took the 4th 3 years to master this technique, aren't we really saying that it took him 3 years to "create" the technique.
Just a thought, as I can't see the 4th Teaching his teacher how to do it?
And to shadow wolf, he may have created it but it still probably took him time to master it.
Also, with the waterballoon, I don't think he was scratching it to pop it. See, he right hand is the hand he was swirling the chakra with, so if he put his hand on different sides of the balloon while swirling, it would cause the water to swirl in multiple directions, which is exactly how he explained it.
Obviously he wasn't scratching it.
good pointOriginally posted by: NomoZ
How cant you see that? He was Hokage, he surpassed Jiraiya.Originally posted by: moo-san
Didnt Jiraya teach the 4th the technique?Originally posted by: Shadow-wolf
When we say that it took the 4th 3 years to master this technique, aren't we really saying that it took him 3 years to "create" the technique.
Just a thought, as I can't see the 4th Teaching his teacher how to do it?
And to shadow wolf, he may have created it but it still probably took him time to master it.
(Just thought Jiraiya was good at teaching it [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img])
err.. you guys are getting it all wrong... the 2nd test is twice as hard as the first test... so imagine the 3rd test. thats gonna be like 3 times as hard as the 2nd test.. and thats REALLY hard.
In my opinion, I don't think Naruto will take 3 years to learn it but it sure won't take 6 months. Plus Naruto hasn't even completed part 2 of the test yet. He's only made a hole in it. He still has to explode it. Well whatever my opinion is he won't do it in 6 months but he will do it before 3 years.
great eps
The 4th never surpassed the 3rd. The only person to do that was probably Orochimaru, and that's debatable.
There is no way Oro surpassed The 3rd,if that was the case he wouldn't have needed the 1st and 2nd as backup in his fight with him.
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its stated oro wouldnt be better than the 3rd if the 3rd hadnt gotten so old
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
You have to realize that the Fourth invented the technique. When Jiyara said it took the Fourth 3 years, most likely the Fourth was just experimenting on and off, and doing it by trial and error.
Of course nobody knows for sure but I believe:
Young 3rd > Jiraya > 4th >= Itachi >= Tsuande >= Orochimaru > Old 3rd
It seems to be hinted that the young third was the strongest and most skilled ninja of all history, they called him the professor.
Even Itachi is scared of Jiraya, so I'm assuming for now Jiraya is the strongest.
ive only seen the raw, so im not sure.....but did it even say anywhere about who created that move?
alot of these techniques couldve been developed hundreds of years ago and stashed away in scrolls or whatnot, but only people who are at a very high jutsu level ever consider learning them.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Jaraiya just called it the technique that the 4th left behind.but did it even say anywhere about who created that move?
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yeah i also think that jira was stronger than the 4th, its just that obvioulsy the 4th was FAR more devouted to his village than jira was. also we know that hokage's are picked on potential as well so mayeb the 4th had more potential but his life was cut short?
Good Episode, but really, Jaraiya could help out, that bastard~! There's nothing wrong with giving hints...
How Jiraiya is going about teaching Naruto the technique isn't bad at all. It's all about making Naruto come to the realization that needs to be less dependant.
"You are not free whose liberty is won by the rigour of other, more righteous souls. Your are merely protected. Your freedom is parasitic, you suck the honourable man dry and offer nothing in return. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, your time has come. This time you will stand alone and fight for yourselves. Now you will pay for your freedom in the currency of honest toil and human blood."
- Inquisitor Czevak
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