When will the anime tie the manga

[Assertn]

ah yes he does have a point...i didnt really bother to look at your equations, but with what you originally had, you're making the left side equal chapters, while the right side equal episodes

[GeninDropout]

Originally posted by: kawarimi
Yep all your answers are correct (besides rounding that could make it 1 off), but Equation Ib

Equation Ib: 1.7(chapter/episode) ((tied_episode) = (weeks_left) (episode/week)+(85 episodes))

should be
tied_chapter / (1.7 chapter/episode) = (weeks_left) (episode/week)+(85 episodes)

And just to make it less confusing,

Equation III: tied_episode * 1.7 (chapters/episode) = tied_chapter

in this equation, chapters/episode is just a unit. so a simpler Equation III is
Equation III: tied_chapter = 1.7 * tied_episode

Thank you for the post, but I disagree with your third point. In my opinion Equation III (and all the equations) suffers more from a lack of terms than too many.

Let's replace tied_episode with E and tied_chapter with C to make it less confusing (which is why I didn't add these terms in the first place, because I think letters scare off non-mathematicians).

If we added all the terms, it would read:
Equation III: E episodes * 1.7 (chapters / episodes) = C chapters
or
Equation IIIb: C chapters = 1.7E chapters

This is not the same as C = 1.7E, since C = 1.7E implies C chapters = 1.7E episodes and then the units would not cancel out. If you look at the post I link to in my first post, you will find that the original author made mistakes because he fails to accurately handle units.

In high school, my advanced chemistry teacher was a stickler to make sure that we tracked each unit and in college this ability gave me a HUGE advantage on tests. In fact, I think making sure units convert properly is the key to success at applying math skills to science. I am not the brightest of people and definitely not the most dillegent, but I was able to get a couple standard deviations above the mean on many tests just simply because a lot of problems solve themselves if you are anal with your unit conversion. If I posted C = 1.7E, even though in essence that is correct, I feel like I would be setting up some of the young students who read this post to fail in college level math or science.

As for your second point, I agree that your method is more clear than multiplying both sides of equation 1 by 1.7 (chapters / episodes). To do this we would have to modify Equation III still further and write:

Equation IIIc: E episodes = C chapters / 1.7 (chapters / episodes) = C / 1.7 episodes.

Let's do some more math to see how the terms cancel out. It is always fun.=P
Replacing E episodes in Equation Ib like you do we have:

Equation Ib: C chapters / 1.7 (chapters / episodes) = (weeks_left) (episode/week)+(85 episodes)

Multiplying 1.7 (chapters / episodes to both sides we have:
Equation Ibi: C chapters = 1.7weeks_left (episode / week) (chapter / episode) + 1.7 * 85 episodes (chapter / episode)

When we cancel out terms we get Equation Ic.

As for the rounding error. The reason I am not trying too hard with rounding is because the 1.7 constant varies so much during the season. I would say any calculation we make will probably be off by an error of at least three months on either side of the date.

Thanks for the comments.=P
Genin_Dropout

[GeninDropout]

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
ah yes he does have a point...i didnt really bother to look at your equations, but with what you originally had, you're making the left side equal chapters, while the right side equal episodes

If you are refering to equation Ib, I don't think it is imbalanced because the 1.7 (chapters/episode) is being multiplied by the entire equation. It may be confusing, however, to bracket an entire equation in type because I cannot make the brackets big enough to make it immedietly clear that the entire equation is being bracketed.

If you are referring to equation III, then I agree with you. I am guilty of not including the units. In my head I was making tied_chapters = tied_chapters chapters and tied_episodes = tied_episodes episodes. That is why I needed the conversion.

I took them out of the equation originaly because I didn't want to make it so long and did not want to reduce tied_chapters or tied_episodes to letters. I guess I was being hypocritical and am guilty of the same error I talk about in the post above.=P

I still would not want to change it to tied_chapter = 1.7 tied_episodes though unless I made it: tied_chapter chapters = 1.7 tied_episodes chapters.

[Assertn]

ok now that i look at it.....you just did it a really weird way....

you tried to match the left side of equation I to look like the left side of equation III so you could convert it to tied_chapter

what i wouldve done was just convert the tied_chapter in equation II to the left side of equation III

gahh the ghettoness hurts my brain [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

[kawarimi]

ahh i see... yeah usually i wouldn't expect an entire equation to be in a bracket. i thought the bracket was a typo.

i agree, units are important, but they make the expression too large. if it was written by hand the layout would be neater. When all your units for variables are defined, and you know what you're doing, you can leave them out, and maybe use it to check later. This is more important in mathematics because it takes too long to write it out, and there will be no confusion between units anyway, but it helps in chemistry where there are many different units in one equation and it's easy to get them mixed up.

[yvliew]

LOL.. are you that crazy about Naruto???? Just watch it everyweek. hahahaha.... I just found it very funny... sorry.....LOL.....So how about some science now??????? AahhahAhah

[Assertn]

Originally posted by: yvliew
LOL.. are you that crazy about Naruto???? Just watch it everyweek. hahahaha.... I just found it very funny... sorry.....LOL.....So how about some science now??????? AahhahAhah

people like us who find amusement in using math to figure out questions in everyday life look at comments like yours and shake our head in pity [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

[Krbadass]

Originally posted by: Xollence

Originally posted by: Krbadass
Well, id close this because its an absolutely pointless thread, but beings as no one posts anymore i might as well leave it open.

It's not a pointless thread, it's pretty interesting. Maybe that's one of the reasons people don't post anymore, because everything gets locked up and discourages new users from posting.

Actually, i just find it pointless, but threads like this don't get locked.. I don't know what your talking about but go ahead and go on about when the anime ties the manga..

[Assertn]

its not pointless though, because what will the anime do when it reaches the manga? ive heard that this is a dilemma that ruined the rurouni kenshin anime series, since the stories just end up branching away from each other

[Gods_Son]

Figuring out something like this seems like a waste of time, but I'm sure people are interested in knowing. They will probably have a plan worked out though, so I'd rather just wait to see what happens.

[ShinobiNeko]

Assertn that is what happened with Rurouni Kenshin..anime caught up with the manga, and then the rest was just made up junk..well you guys like comming up with when it will reach..that's cool if you want to do that (too much math for me ^^) just that, knowing when it will won't change the face that it will catch up and don't know where it will go from there

[Assertn]

you have to be a person who enjoys solving logical scenarios to understand why someone would go through the work
sometimes things like that would linger in my head if i dont go and solve it.......besides, we arent trying to find solutions, just discuss the scenario
just like how we can discuss that the idea of introducing a new character and saga into the series could be the producer's solution to this upcoming situation

[ShinobiNeko]

well yeah have to be someone who likes solving logical scenarios.. so that's why you guys have this thread to go ahead and do that ^_^