Neji's possible jutsus

[Hotsuma]

I think the Byakugan does allow certain reactions, based on the victims movements. Only in the Byakugan's case, it's purely psychological, as Neji pwned Hinata, in their discussion. By looking at every little detail in her face, body movements and probably breathing, he was able to determine what she was feeling, what her life is like, and even what kind of a person she is. Well, that could've been Neji's own quirk, though.

And Kakashi worked on Sasuke's body speed, because body speed was apparently required, in order to learn the Chidori.

I think it's very possible that Neji can learn it, too. As well as the Rasengan. Neither of them are blood-limits, which theoretically, make them possible. Provided,the learner has the chakra battery to do so.

Byakugan > Sharingan.

Neji > Sasule

Hyuga > Uchiha

[Noonan]

I don't know if neji has the chackra stamina to learn either move but I suppose its possible..

in essence the Rasengan requires a huge amount of chackra to be focused into a tiny vortex - Neji might have the ability to learn it - but I don't think he could learn it on his own ...

more interestingly what if after seing Naruto use the Rasengan a few times, he used the same chaotic vortex theory to make his own Kaiten more effective?

The Chidori on the other hand is just the abitlity to focus a crapload of your chackra into one hand and focus to a sharp plane - the sharingan is in no way required for it, but without the sharingan you are much more likely to miss, wasting the chakra -

Neji's abilities would allow him to use the chidori, but not as effectively as a sharingan user i think. but to be honest - his own soft hand style can cause fatal injuries with a much lower expendature of energy - why would he bother with a near-suicidal charge attack?

[EpoC]

isn't rasengan also an attack that goes straight to the enemy?

i wonder wich of them is the better. rasengan or chidori.

[Raven]

Just a question:

When we first saw the Rasengan, it was when Jiraiya used it against that Stone Village Chuunin or whoever he was. How come it only threw him back and made a hole in his clothes rather than kill and destroy him? We saw what Naruto's did to Kabuto, so shouldn't Jiraiya's have been much worse?

Maybe Jiraiya was holding back a LOT or something.

[JusDaMan]

When jiraiya did his rasengan it was on for only about maybe 2 second. not allowing the whirl to spin therefore not allowing it to get anystronger. so even at that 2 second it wooped the chuunin's ass...

when naruto did his to naruto. naruto probably hold it for 10+ seconds. then launched it.

[Raven]

Jiraiya was demonstrating to Naruto the new jutsu he would be learning, so I think he would have done a complete proper Rasengan to show him.

[AlbinoFury]

in the anime it clarified it a bit, he said something like, "I knew i was holding back a whole lot of its power, but geez you are weak" or something like that [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

[orn210]

jiraiya did it on purpose he could have killed him with the rasengan easily and i think rasengan is more powerful cuz it doesnt go away after a blow but it will be more powerfull and will be used by the the chakra first used so its much more usefull than chidori

[FearTheMullet]

Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiyahowever he would be able to master the rasengan, every character could since there is no special term for using this jutsu but it wouldnt be cool to see half of the cast running around doing chidori.

Not jsut anyone can learn Rasengan, Naruto has gotten to step 3, but theres 8 (unless someone translated it wrong or i cant read english) and it took the 4th 3 years to master it perfectly. Not soething anyone could do. Or figure out, to their eyes it looks just like a ball, uless instructed by someone who knows it not jsut anybody can figure it out. As far as we know the only people with the ability to do the Ransengan are Erosenin and the 4th. And possibly Naruto.

[Hokage-IV]

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
i dunno about rasengan. neji can shoot out chakra from any part of his body but he hasn't shown anything that tells us that he can manipulate chakra. rasengan needs chakra to be controlled in a certain way, neji's chakra controlling skills isn't really the same.

so let's say neji can do the chidori... i'm sure he'll be cool and all but too bad he won't be able to use it effectively as kakashi and sasuke since he doesn't have sharingan. chidori is suppose to be a straight on spearing type of attack. for attacking straight on, you need sharingan so can see any countering attacks coming at you while you're running at the opponent. you saw an example of this during sasuke vs gaara in the stadium.

this is dumb... Only the 4th and Jirariya was capable of doing the Rasengan, Kakashi saw it many times with his own eyes and the sharingan... if he cant do it what makes u think Neji can? Tsunade knows what it is so she mustve seen it b4 and yet she cant do it... what makes u think Neji can? so dumb...

[Hotsuma]

Originally posted by: Hokage-IV

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
i dunno about rasengan. neji can shoot out chakra from any part of his body but he hasn't shown anything that tells us that he can manipulate chakra. rasengan needs chakra to be controlled in a certain way, neji's chakra controlling skills isn't really the same.

so let's say neji can do the chidori... i'm sure he'll be cool and all but too bad he won't be able to use it effectively as kakashi and sasuke since he doesn't have sharingan. chidori is suppose to be a straight on spearing type of attack. for attacking straight on, you need sharingan so can see any countering attacks coming at you while you're running at the opponent. you saw an example of this during sasuke vs gaara in the stadium.

this is dumb... Only the 4th and Jirariya was capable of doing the Rasengan, Kakashi saw it many times with his own eyes and the sharingan... if he cant do it what makes u think Neji can? Tsunade knows what it is so she mustve seen it b4 and yet she cant do it... what makes u think Neji can? so dumb...

You're a fucking dumbshit. When did it ever say that Kakashi wasn't able to do the Rasengan? Or Tsunade? Or even Neji for that matter? Just because they don't know it now, doesn't mean they can't learn it. That's the point of this discussion, you fucking douchebag. If a kid like Naruto, with no talent (and don't argue this with me, anybody) was able to learn, it's without a doubt, possible for Kakashi, Tsunade AND Neji to learn and do it.


For the sake of a hypothetical discussion, please keep the fuck out this thread. Kthnxbye.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: Hokage-IV

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
i dunno about rasengan. neji can shoot out chakra from any part of his body but he hasn't shown anything that tells us that he can manipulate chakra. rasengan needs chakra to be controlled in a certain way, neji's chakra controlling skills isn't really the same.

so let's say neji can do the chidori... i'm sure he'll be cool and all but too bad he won't be able to use it effectively as kakashi and sasuke since he doesn't have sharingan. chidori is suppose to be a straight on spearing type of attack. for attacking straight on, you need sharingan so can see any countering attacks coming at you while you're running at the opponent. you saw an example of this during sasuke vs gaara in the stadium.

this is dumb... Only the 4th and Jirariya was capable of doing the Rasengan, Kakashi saw it many times with his own eyes and the sharingan... if he cant do it what makes u think Neji can? Tsunade knows what it is so she mustve seen it b4 and yet she cant do it... what makes u think Neji can? so dumb...

what the hell are you talking about, i never said neji can do it. i was just making up scenarios saying IF neji can do it blah blah blah.

so dumb...

[Hokage-IV]

Originally posted by: Hotsuma

Originally posted by: Hokage-IV

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
i dunno about rasengan. neji can shoot out chakra from any part of his body but he hasn't shown anything that tells us that he can manipulate chakra. rasengan needs chakra to be controlled in a certain way, neji's chakra controlling skills isn't really the same.

so let's say neji can do the chidori... i'm sure he'll be cool and all but too bad he won't be able to use it effectively as kakashi and sasuke since he doesn't have sharingan. chidori is suppose to be a straight on spearing type of attack. for attacking straight on, you need sharingan so can see any countering attacks coming at you while you're running at the opponent. you saw an example of this during sasuke vs gaara in the stadium.

this is dumb... Only the 4th and Jirariya was capable of doing the Rasengan, Kakashi saw it many times with his own eyes and the sharingan... if he cant do it what makes u think Neji can? Tsunade knows what it is so she mustve seen it b4 and yet she cant do it... what makes u think Neji can? so dumb...

You're a fucking dumbshit. When did it ever say that Kakashi wasn't able to do the Rasengan? Or Tsunade? Or even Neji for that matter? Just because they don't know it now, doesn't mean they can't learn it. That's the point of this discussion, you fucking douchebag. If a kid like Naruto, with no talent (and don't argue this with me, anybody) was able to learn, it's without a doubt, possible for Kakashi, Tsunade AND Neji to learn and do it.


For the sake of a hypothetical discussion, please keep the fuck out this thread. Kthnxbye.

calm down kid....

If you missed it.. Tsunade said only ppl who can use that jutsu is u (jiriaryia) and the 4th ....ill let you figure out what that means...


hypotheticl discussion? ... ask urself is Jiriaya gonna teach Neji the Rasengan?

[Mut]

loolloolollololol... you missed it.

just because one hasn't learned something it doesn't mean that he or she cannot do it once they learn it.

and i don't think you know what hypothetical means...

[Hotsuma]

Originally posted by: Hokage-IV

Originally posted by: Hotsuma

Originally posted by: Hokage-IV

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
i dunno about rasengan. neji can shoot out chakra from any part of his body but he hasn't shown anything that tells us that he can manipulate chakra. rasengan needs chakra to be controlled in a certain way, neji's chakra controlling skills isn't really the same.

so let's say neji can do the chidori... i'm sure he'll be cool and all but too bad he won't be able to use it effectively as kakashi and sasuke since he doesn't have sharingan. chidori is suppose to be a straight on spearing type of attack. for attacking straight on, you need sharingan so can see any countering attacks coming at you while you're running at the opponent. you saw an example of this during sasuke vs gaara in the stadium.

this is dumb... Only the 4th and Jirariya was capable of doing the Rasengan, Kakashi saw it many times with his own eyes and the sharingan... if he cant do it what makes u think Neji can? Tsunade knows what it is so she mustve seen it b4 and yet she cant do it... what makes u think Neji can? so dumb...

You're a fucking dumbshit. When did it ever say that Kakashi wasn't able to do the Rasengan? Or Tsunade? Or even Neji for that matter? Just because they don't know it now, doesn't mean they can't learn it. That's the point of this discussion, you fucking douchebag. If a kid like Naruto, with no talent (and don't argue this with me, anybody) was able to learn, it's without a doubt, possible for Kakashi, Tsunade AND Neji to learn and do it.


For the sake of a hypothetical discussion, please keep the fuck out this thread. Kthnxbye.

calm down kid....

If you missed it.. Tsunade said only ppl who can use that jutsu is u (jiriaryia) and the 4th ....ill let you figure out what that means...


hypotheticl discussion? ... ask urself is Jiriaya gonna teach Neji the Rasengan?

You really are a total dumbass.

Jiraiya and the 4th are the only two to know the Jutsu. Does that mean nobody else can learn it? Well, that can't be, because Naruto proved that theory wrong.

Just shut the fuck up, already.

[Hokage-IV]

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
loolloolollololol... you missed it.

just because one hasn't learned something it doesn't mean that he or she cannot do it once they learn it.

and i don't think you know what hypothetical means...

you trying to take up some of my time? well.. its ok i have some time to spare...


Im fully aware what he is trying to say....... I do acknowledge and i never said other ppl cant learn it, but this topic was on specific character... and the empashis was on the bakugan and I find Bakugan so irrelevant to learning Rasengan and compared to sharingan.. If some one with Sharingan hasnt learned it what makes you think Neji can? its a simple question after u ask urself .. Is Jiriaria gonna teach Neji the Rasengan?

[Mut]

Originally posted by: Hokage-IV

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
loolloolollololol... you missed it.

just because one hasn't learned something it doesn't mean that he or she cannot do it once they learn it.

and i don't think you know what hypothetical means...

you trying to take up some of my time? well.. its ok i have some time to spare...


Im fully aware what he is trying to say....... I do acknowledge and i never said other ppl cant learn it, but this topic was on specific character... and the empashis was on the bakugan and I find Bakugan so irrelevant to learning Rasengan and compared to sharingan.. If some one with Sharingan hasnt learned it what makes you think Neji can? its a simple question after u ask urself .. Is Jiriaria gonna teach Neji the Rasengan?

don't act like your time is more valuable than any other's time. you're not any better than us.

anyway, i'm glad that you're aware of what i'm saying. but since you went back on to the main concept of the topic, it seems that you don't actually fully understand it.

1. i have absolutely no idea why you're asking if someone with sharingan hasn't learned rasengan, why i think someone with byukagan can. like you said byukagan has nothing to do with learning the rasengan. byukagan and sharingan were brought up mainly for the reason that sharingan is needed to effectively use chidori. and someone thought byukagan could be a possible substitute for sharingan (which is not). byukagan or sharingan was never brought up when we were discussing about if neji is able to do rasengan or not. only neji's ability to control chakra was brough up when involving rasengan.

2. now, you bring up if jiraiya is gonna teach neji the rasengan. honestly and obviously, the answer is no. but we're talking about if jiraiya had taught neji the rasengan, would neji be able to perform the technique. ok?

i think you're a teeny bit confused on what's going on here.

[Hotsuma]

Originally posted by: Hokage-IV

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
loolloolollololol... you missed it.

just because one hasn't learned something it doesn't mean that he or she cannot do it once they learn it.

and i don't think you know what hypothetical means...

you trying to take up some of my time? well.. its ok i have some time to spare...


Im fully aware what he is trying to say....... I do acknowledge and i never said other ppl cant learn it, but this topic was on specific character... and the empashis was on the bakugan and I find Bakugan so irrelevant to learning Rasengan and compared to sharingan.. If some one with Sharingan hasnt learned it what makes you think Neji can? its a simple question after u ask urself .. Is Jiriaria gonna teach Neji the Rasengan?

Look up the word hypothetical, dumbass.

Nowhere in Naruto does it say that any jutsu (minus the blood limits) can only be learned by a select few. Neji can learn it, given he's under the right tuitilege, and has the proper concentration (which can be worked on)

[Assertn]

alright look guys, here's my thoughts on the byakugan vs sharingan being able to counter moves and such debate.....

getting straight to the point, byakugan should be able to observe opponents movements better than sharingan
HOWEVER, it cannot identify an attack better than sharingan

whats the difference? well in terms of simple taijutsu, byakugan would probably be a little more accurate, since kakashi DID say that byakugan surpasses sharingan in terms of insight, and being able to see somebody throwing a punch should fall into that category. Also, remember when lee was busting out the ura renge on gaara? Neji was using his byakugan to observe the match. This is because it lets him see lee's insane speed better than if he wasnt using byakugan. So, if neji w/ chidori was charging at a sand sphere that can shoot spikes out, would he be able to dodge the spikes? chances are yes. He would know what to expect (from simply testing it beforehand like sasuke did), and its nothing but straight jabs of sand.

If its something more complex, however, like a ninjutsu or higher level taijutsu then im sure thats where sharingan would have the upper hand, since his eye couldnt interpret the jutsu.

Thus, neji can counter some attacks, and those he can do better than an uchiha could. Although the slight advantage he may have in those scenarios are outweighed by the much more versatile sharingan. Besides, neji's taijutsu isnt at the level of lee's anyway, so not only would he not be able to move fast enough for the jab, but it would bottlecap his countering abilites to a level lower than the response time of a sharingan.

[PSJ]

Originally posted by: JusDaMan
When jiraiya did his rasengan it was on for only about maybe 2 second. not allowing the whirl to spin therefore not allowing it to get anystronger. so even at that 2 second it wooped the chuunin's ass...

when naruto did his to naruto. naruto probably hold it for 10+ seconds. then launched it.

its more like he held it back, a jutsu isnt workign like for example a power shot in a game. the longer you hold it the stronger it gets. jiraiya used neough strength to push the chuunin backwards since he didnt need to kill him.