Which Character do you think has the most potential

**Rock_Lee69** · Sun, 07-04-2004, 11:33 PM

Um, I hope you're not saying that Sasuke somehow draws power from offensive or illusionary techniques! Genjutsu would do little to deter Rock Lee from winning the battle, along with his current offensive attacks (chidori)(Flame attacks). Did you happen to notice just how fast Rock Lee moved when he opened just the 4th gate alone? He was moving so fast, the not only could he hit Naruto, Neji, Itachi, Jiraya, Sakura before they move, but he'd kill them outright with the outrageous combos he can pull. As explained by Gai, why would someone need to know genjutsu or ninjutsu when they're that *&%$ powerful?

As for the Sakura topic....Well, you could compare her to naruto, while naruto's supply is unlimited, so is sakura's, 'cause she doesn't waste any chakra when performing her techniques (Ebito), thus, if she actually had a will for battle, and a decent ninjutsu/genjutsu move line-up in her mind, she'd be more than a match for most people, however, not anyone that could outmanuver her in speed. (Speed is everything).

**Mut** · Mon, 07-05-2004, 12:26 AM

Originally posted by: Rock_Lee69
He was moving so fast, the not only could he hit Naruto, Neji, Itachi, Jiraya, Sakura before they move, but he'd kill them outright with the outrageous combos he can pull. As explained by Gai, why would someone need to know genjutsu or ninjutsu when they're that *&%$ powerful?

you're wrong.

**jing** · Mon, 07-05-2004, 05:47 AM

Originally posted by: Rock_Lee69
Um, I hope you're not saying that Sasuke somehow draws power from offensive or illusionary techniques! Genjutsu would do little to deter Rock Lee from winning the battle, along with his current offensive attacks (chidori)(Flame attacks). Did you happen to notice just how fast Rock Lee moved when he opened just the 4th gate alone? He was moving so fast, the not only could he hit Naruto, Neji, Itachi, Jiraya, Sakura before they move, but he'd kill them outright with the outrageous combos he can pull. As explained by Gai, why would someone need to know genjutsu or ninjutsu when they're that *&%$ powerful?

As for the Sakura topic....Well, you could compare her to naruto, while naruto's supply is unlimited, so is sakura's, 'cause she doesn't waste any chakra when performing her techniques (Ebito), thus, if she actually had a will for battle, and a decent ninjutsu/genjutsu move line-up in her mind, she'd be more than a match for most people, however, not anyone that could outmanuver her in speed. (Speed is everything).

i bet jiraiya can't even run fast in his wooden sandles, but he still ownz rock lee. (speed is not everything)

Sabotender · Mon, 07-05-2004, 06:25 PM

I agree with Enigmatic_Paragon, i voted Haku

Haku at such a young age had great power, if Naruto was not the main character in the story then Naruto would have lost.
We also see that Haku could controll waster and Ice when he was a small child (the flashback when he avoids being killed by his father) I mean, those massive Ice spikes is no simple thing.

Haku never went to any ninja school, he was found and raised by Zabusa, Haku was not trained like a normal ninja but trained as a weapon and tool for Zabusa, if Haku had gone to school he would have been the best, as he never shows any weakness (he was not beaten due to weakness, but due to his enemy having the 9tailed fox)
However if Haku did not go to a ninja school, but had not died, then he would still be very powerfull, i personaly feel that Zabusa would have let Haku go, cause he could not train him any more, and Haku would have wandered the world just becomming stronger.

As far as i know, he has the best Blood line tech, full Ice controll, and at his still young age, he had developed at least two Jutsus, and lets still not forget the Ice spike thing i mentioned earlier.

**PSJ** · Mon, 07-05-2004, 06:38 PM

i think haku became strong because he was trained as a tool. and the one with most potential is naruto because he is the main character there is no changing hat.

**Rock_Lee69** · Mon, 07-05-2004, 10:41 PM

How does one even form a seal when they have a 90 mph foot coming at their face at near the speed of light? In a one on one fight between Rock Lee and anyone else (with the assumtion that all 8 gates are open), even in a draw, he'd finish off anyone, even if it meant his death.

**Mut** · Mon, 07-05-2004, 10:50 PM

i can bet that kakashi can kill him.

**Pyron** · Tue, 07-06-2004, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by: Rock_Lee69
How does one even form a seal when they have a 90 mph foot coming at their face at near the speed of light? In a one on one fight between Rock Lee and anyone else (with the assumtion that all 8 gates are open), even in a draw, he'd finish off anyone, even if it meant his death.

i'm assuming for good ninjas, that replacement jutsu it pretty easy to do. that in my opinion would be the key to beating the speed

**japanaman** · Tue, 07-06-2004, 09:14 AM

i dont know about that, i bet if Rock had only one more gate opened he would have completely destroyed Gaara, or any other Gennin for that matter.

As for who has the most potential, it has to be Shikamaru. I mean come on, this kid is some kind of super genius. If he honed his skills a little more, i bet he could beat anybody. Well, almost anybody.........

**kakash11** · Tue, 07-06-2004, 09:50 AM

Rock Lee cannot beat Jiraiya. End of discussion. Rock Lee cannot beat Kakashi. Rock Lee can beat Sasuke, Sakura, Naruto, and a lot of the other genins but no way can he beat Jiraiya (a sannin) or Kakashi (a super duper ultra cool jounin/former ANBU [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img])

**Jessper** · Tue, 07-06-2004, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by: Rock_Lee69
How does one even form a seal when they have a 90 mph foot coming at their face at near the speed of light? In a one on one fight between Rock Lee and anyone else (with the assumtion that all 8 gates are open), even in a draw, he'd finish off anyone, even if it meant his death.

First, 90mph is no where near the speed of light. Second you think way way to highly of Lee, even with 8 gates Gai said you would have the power of a Hokage, but there are people stronger than a Hokage.

**Rock_Lee69** · Tue, 07-06-2004, 07:43 PM

Stronger than the Hokage? Have you forgotten how that title is achieved? Secondly, i think everyone's overrating kakashi. So he possesses multiple techniques that could be useful against a slow thinking, slowing moving opponent. How does that give him the edge in a fight when he's getting hit first, and harder. Plus, when it's mentioned that the replacement technique (when done correctly and quickly) should be the key to defeating Rock Lee, even if there is around 5 clones (most shinobi) Rock could defeat every one of them in an instant. I think everyone underestimates Rock Lee, and apparently throws strength out the window when it comes to comparison of other shinobi. Ninjutsu and Genjutsu are not the only determining factors to a battle.

**Mut** · Tue, 07-06-2004, 07:59 PM

ok, let's see... rock lee with 5 gates opened, barely put a scratch on gaara and that was his 'normal' form... rock lee is garbage. stop overrating him and his gates.

**japanaman** · Tue, 07-06-2004, 09:47 PM

i said ALMOST anybody. and by that i meant people his age. Obviously Gai, Kakashi, the Sannins, and the hokage are way too advanced for him right now, but if given time and enough trainig Lee might just be good enough to maybe hang with one of the aformentioned people, MIGHT...

**kaigan** · Tue, 07-06-2004, 10:46 PM

who cares about other trashy characters, especially gay ass sauke. He's more garbage than Lee.

winner: naruto

end of discussion

**Jessper** · Wed, 07-07-2004, 02:40 AM

Originally posted by: Rock_Lee69
Stronger than the Hokage? Have you forgotten how that title is achieved? Secondly, i think everyone's overrating kakashi. So he possesses multiple techniques that could be useful against a slow thinking, slowing moving opponent. How does that give him the edge in a fight when he's getting hit first, and harder. Plus, when it's mentioned that the replacement technique (when done correctly and quickly) should be the key to defeating Rock Lee, even if there is around 5 clones (most shinobi) Rock could defeat every one of them in an instant. I think everyone underestimates Rock Lee, and apparently throws strength out the window when it comes to comparison of other shinobi. Ninjutsu and Genjutsu are not the only determining factors to a battle.

Ok, let me explain it to you slowly. The Hokage got beat by Orochimaru who got away with at least his life, Oro was pissed that Itachi was stronger than him, Itachi had to run away from Jiraiya(and was forced to use what I would guess is one of his most powerful techniques), Tsunade is...scary.

So there seems to be a few people at least. Plus if Lee ever made eye contact with Kakshi it would be over imo.

**Rock_Lee69** · Wed, 07-07-2004, 11:14 AM

I've actually come to a new conclusion regardless of what others say. I've been watching some of the earlier anime episodes through episode 20 and it got me thinking. The first time Naruto got nearly possesed by Kyubi, he was extremely fast and agile, MORE SO THAN HAKU. Also, in the later episodes, we see that the next time that Naruto has to use the Kyubi, he becomes even faster. Assuming he doesn't get killed by anyone in that organization of itachi's, eventually he'd be the best. Why? Well, suppose him and Rock Lee grew at the same rate, eventually, Rock Lee would have all 8 gates open and Naruto would only be at some stronger point in his growth. However, the Kyubi's chakra is unlimited, so therefore, Naruto's power would continuously grow, making him faster, and stronger. Plus, I bet Naruto would learn some Kick A$$ Jutsu's along with Impressive Taijutsu. So, now i vote for naruto in 1st, Rock Lee in 2nd, and Gaara in 3rd.

**Mut** · Wed, 07-07-2004, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by: Rock_Lee69
I've actually come to a new conclusion regardless of what others say. I've been watching some of the earlier anime episodes through episode 20 and it got me thinking. The first time Naruto got nearly possesed by Kyubi, he was extremely fast and agile, MORE SO THAN HAKU. Also, in the later episodes, we see that the next time that Naruto has to use the Kyubi, he becomes even faster. Assuming he doesn't get killed by anyone in that organization of itachi's, eventually he'd be the best. Why? Well, suppose him and Rock Lee grew at the same rate, eventually, Rock Lee would have all 8 gates open and Naruto would only be at some stronger point in his growth. However, the Kyubi's chakra is unlimited, so therefore, Naruto's power would continuously grow, making him faster, and stronger. Plus, I bet Naruto would learn some Kick A$$ Jutsu's along with Impressive Taijutsu. So, now i vote for naruto in 1st, Rock Lee in 2nd, and Gaara in 3rd.

stop overestimating these gennins. and yeah, did you actually have to think about who the strongest would be...? i just looked at the title of the anime and knew right off the bat.

**Rock_Lee69** · Wed, 07-07-2004, 08:51 PM

"overestimating these gennins"? I believe the title of this thread was "Who has the most potential"! ONLY THE GENNINS HAVE THE POSSIBLITY FOR POTENTIAL, PEOPLE LIKE KAKASHI AND JIRAIYA ARE GETTING OLD AND HAVE LOST ALMOST ALL POTENTIAL 'CAUSE THEY'RE LIVING WHAT'S KNOWN AS THEIR "POTENTIAL" RIGHT NOW! Not saying they're weak, just saying they're done growing.

**jing** · Wed, 07-07-2004, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by: Rock_Lee69
Stronger than the Hokage? Have you forgotten how that title is achieved? Secondly, i think everyone's overrating kakashi. So he possesses multiple techniques that could be useful against a slow thinking, slowing moving opponent. How does that give him the edge in a fight when he's getting hit first, and harder. Plus, when it's mentioned that the replacement technique (when done correctly and quickly) should be the key to defeating Rock Lee, even if there is around 5 clones (most shinobi) Rock could defeat every one of them in an instant. I think everyone underestimates Rock Lee, and apparently throws strength out the window when it comes to comparison of other shinobi. Ninjutsu and Genjutsu are not the only determining factors to a battle.

Dude, are you telling me that Kakashi is slow then? Look at his "rival", its none other than the speed demon Maito Gai. Also, in the prelim battles, the jounins were incredibly fast at stopping Neji from owning Hinata. They were down there in an instant. (i wouldn't call that slow). He kept up with Itachi too, remember his water clone, that saved his life. You saying Itachi is slow? I don't get why you think his jutsus are only good against slow moving opponents. PLEASE DO EXPLAIN YOURSELF.

Edit: Also, I don't think Rock Lee has the most potential. A person without an arm or a leg cannot be of much use. He technically isn't even a ninja right now.

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