Hi ppl first post!
But isn't Orochimaru screwed because he can no longer do hand seals and therefore no jutsu?
"give me back my jutsu!" he said to the third
So they must have to do hand seals to perform jutsus, we just don't see all of them cos the shows only 20min.
Welcome to the forums, and that is a very good point. I agree that no hands seals = no justus.
Kinda off topic, but does anyone know where the whole using hand seals to do magic tradition comes from? I've seen it in several different series, both anime and live action. Of course I can't think of a good example now...>_< I think it was in Ghost Hunters, Yu Yu Hakusho (?sp), maybe Vampire Princess Miyu and something old called Tokyo Babylon. I want to say it's a Shinto thing because it's used in exorcisms, but it might be Taoist or Buddist.
As one poster had mentioned earlier Hand Seals are used to focus the mind in traditional Budo.
http://www.furyu.com/onlinearticles/mudra.html
Yeah i agree that REAL hand seals or gestures are used for focusing, like in wing chun forms or tai chi ect.
However in Naruto I'm pretty sure they must do perform hand seals for jutsu, otherwise the Thirds sacrifice was a waste.
Hand seals are a very important part in jutsu, because it is the body's way of releasing your stored jutsu in the way desired. This was explained during the Chuunin exam, during Rock Lee's fight by Sakura and Kakashi I believe, also on Episode 26 when they did they recap thingy.
The reason why they dont show the hand seals all the time is because it is a normal part of every jutsu, so it is just assumed they do it. Even a powerful ninja like Jiraiya still has do a large number of hand seals in order to bust one out (Ep 85, when he makes the surroundings the inside of a frog).
A few episodes back, you see Sasuke practicing his Chidori in the forest, you see him do the hand seals for Chidori still. The animators just didn't show Sasuke do the seals for Chidori against Itachi because it would take away the atmosphere of the moment.Sasuke when he first uses the Chidori against Gaara, he uses numerous hand seals. However when he fight itachi, he doesn't use any hand seals. Also kakashi doesn't use any hand seals when he does chidori.
The fight Kakashi vs. Itachi, did Itachi do the hand seal before he showed the shurikens or after, cuz after seems a little weird (show shurikens, handseals, show shurikens)
i agree with the ppl who say that the hand seals are needed for performing a jutsu. kishimoto doesn't have to show it. it's always the same hand seals, so if u seen it once u seen it all. or however that saying goes.
I tried my best...
yeah that's true, I guess they just don't take the time to show it, reminds me of anime with transformations..boring when you have to see it over and over again..so suppose maybe they didn't want to show it over and over again cause they will have someone else use it, or what not, i guess
I think even more than just being unnecessary to animate, the whole "show the hand-seals every time" thing would become a big animation stumbling block, and even a story stumbling block. This gets into a bigger point though.
What if Naruto is animated doing Bear instead of Boar at some point? Do you care? No. Does the story care? No. Does some anal retentive otaku who's bought into the whole universe and its system care? Definitely.
I think the point that I was going to harp on a bit more (but don't think I will, it's too muddy down those streams) is that as a fantasy adventure, Naruto doesn't need to specify out its entire universe. It could get away with it, sure. But I think it'd be a detractor from the storyline, because it'd require the universe to become bigger than the people in it.
Yeah, animating every seal would both break with manga style and break the narrative flow of the story. And every seal would have to be consistent in how it's made and what it does.
Any time you see someone powerful who doesn't look like they used seals, tell yourself "they're just too fast for me to see" or "I wasn't watching them the whole time" (whichever is more applicable). And just enjoy the story for what it is without trying to disassemble the universe so much.
Or you can distract yourself with the question "Is there God in Naruto?" and argue both sides.
We do know there's a death god [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]Originally posted by: complich8
Or you can distract yourself with the question "Is there God in Naruto?" and argue both sides.
As already said (and i am in the mood to say it again), Naruto will become such a drag if u see the characters do the seals every time they're gonna perform a jutsu...
However, sometimes showing a seal can give someone's move more strength, like "oh yeah, there's the seal..., the other guy is sooooo going to die!" [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
A warming up for the move someone is making
As has been brought up, you need the hand seals to do jutsu (Otherwise orochimaru would still be able to do jutsu easily after losing his arms wouldnt he?). Choosing not to animate them is a descision to avoid boring repition of them.
Oh yeah, theres no one handed jutsu per se. Only Haku has that ability and he's dead. Everyone else (so far) has to use both hands for jutsu.
with 1 hand seal performing you can do 2 jutsus at the same time, thats really good. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
I think it makes total sense, dont show hand seals cause it takes up too much time and is a waste of effort for the anime.
one handed seals are possible, but i would think as in haku's case, they might have to be bloodline related.
can anyone see if the shark S rank ninja do any hand seals? (or even move his hands to indicate he was doing them?) i had the feeling that akatsuki was going to absorb kyubi in some way to let them get around the hand seals thing, but then as someoen pointed out orochi cant do it and doesnt know of any other way. seems if he was part of them, he would know of another way around it. I guess they just dont bother showing high level guys doing it.
yes... they just don't showing high level guys doing it cuz it takes away from the atmosphere of the situation. the animators/creator purposely didn't show itachi doing hand seals for the "HE'S SO BAD ASS YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE HIM DO HIS HAND SEALS CUZ HE IS SO FAST"-effect. NOTHING ELSE, NOTHING MORE.Originally posted by: The Lord of Morning
I think it makes total sense, dont show hand seals cause it takes up too much time and is a waste of effort for the anime.
one handed seals are possible, but i would think as in haku's case, they might have to be bloodline related.
can anyone see if the shark S rank ninja do any hand seals? (or even move his hands to indicate he was doing them?) i had the feeling that akatsuki was going to absorb kyubi in some way to let them get around the hand seals thing, but then as someoen pointed out orochi cant do it and doesnt know of any other way. seems if he was part of them, he would know of another way around it. I guess they just dont bother showing high level guys doing it.
Itachi doesnt need to do hand seals to perform jutsus IMO, cuz with the Itachi vs Kakashi fight Itachi pulls the shuriken then Kakashi performs the suiton (you see handseals) and Itachi counters with the same suiton, but he keeps those shurikens in his hand... proofing he doesnt have to use handseals to perform jutsus
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no the purpose of the shurikens in the first place were to draw kakashi's attention away from his other hand that was doing seals......(although i thought only haku's bloodline had one-handed jutsus)....but if he could perform jutsus without needing to make seals, then he wouldnt need to draw away kakashi's attention (which would also mean that he performed the jutsu AFTER drawing the shurikens, since whats the point if kakashi already saw it?)
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I also thought Haku was the only one who could to one hand jutsu's, but most likely they just didn't show it, like Assertn said, the shuriken was to distract..and probably didn't show it because they wanted to make it seem really fast that no one could see
in other words he performed the suiton with hand seals (that kakashi was gonna perfom in the future) then showed the shurikens, then kakashi dodges back and performs the suiton..
So Itachi CAN look into the future? :S
And i dunno if he can 1 hand seals...
@_@ all I know is that everything happened so fast
here is my interpretation of the Itachi vs Kakashi fight
First you need to realize that Itachi does not keep his arms in his sleeves. This is shown when Itachi reveals himself using his hand from the inside of the coat to open the front. He keeps his hands inside. The reason we did not see him performing hand seals when he attacked Kakashi is because he was doing it inside his coat. He whipped out the shurikens in his hand after performing the seals to fake Kakashi out. Kakashi would have been expecting a shuriken attack when actually the water jutsu was already performed.
There is only one person that has existed in the Naruto Universe they could perform Jutsus with one hand, that person being Haku. Even Kakashi said it was unheard of.
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