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    Theory on Hand Seals

    This is a Theory.<u>Theory</u>

    After a ninja uses a move consistantly and the move is pretty simple, they dont need to use hand seals.

    Its shown in the way kakashi can do kawarmi(sp?) the replacement jutsu without doing hand seals. He never does them, where as sakura has to do numerous hand seals in the forest(2nd test in chuunin exam)

    Also kakashi doesn't have to use seals to do clones(water/kage/other). This is shown when he fights zanza, when he fights itachi. Granted he does do one seal when he is on the bridge after zanza lost the capability to fight and they were scaring the mob, but he doesn't do nearly as many hand seals as naruto does when he does kage bunshin.

    Sasuke when he first uses the Chidori against Gaara, he uses numerous hand seals. However when he fight itachi, he doesn't use any hand seals. Also kakashi doesn't use any hand seals when he does chidori.

    Itachi - doesn't show any hand seals.

    Orochimaru - Hardly ever uses hand seals, but can do the mud clone thing, the turn into a shadow, numerous other things without hand seals.

    So my theory is that after gaining a certain amount of experiance in using a jutsu, you no longer need to actually form the serperate hand seals. Of course it would be easier to learn the simple jutsus than hard ones.(kawarmi vs. kage bunshin)

    What do u guys think?

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    RE: Theory on Hand Seals

    I think the seals are just a focusing method. It would explain why the aging Sarutobi needed them to do fairly basic jutsus, while the fresh Hokages used one or two.

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    I think its more than just focusing, because naruto was focusing alot when he was fighting kiba(enough to fart) but he still had to do seals. There has to be some sort of learning curve implemented in the hand seals. Also kakashi when he does kawarmi(sp?) in the very beggining he is reading come come paradise. I doubt he was focusing really hard on the jutsu

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    RE: Theory on Hand Seals

    Naruto sucks at focusing chakra. Even with all his attention focused on using his power he still is far, far more wasteful than the other Genins. Maybe that's why he needs to use seals?

    Also, the focusing idea doesn't rule out yours. After Kakashi's done that jutsu a zillion times he doesn't even need to think about the way he manipulates his power to do it: he just does it.

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    that does make a lot of sense - the gaining skill. I think it is to focus chakra tho.

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    RE: Theory on Hand Seals

    I think it's just too hard to animate the characters doing the hand seals each time, and would slow down the
    fight. I think that the characters are still doing them, but they just aren't shown.

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    Theory on Hand Seals

    Personally i'm thinking that hand seals are only used for setting the user's chakra in a certain mode. Once the hand seals are performed, the chakra is 'set' to that mode. for e.g. 2 hours after the seals are done, the jutsu can be executed without doing the seals again.

    I think thats why sasuke didn't need to redo the hand seal when doing chidori against itachi in ep84

    This is just my opinion/theory though.

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    Theory on Hand Seals

    i think you may be right, after a while you may know the jutsu so well that you dont need to concentrate your chakra so much. but i think sometimes they just do the hand seals really fast or with one hand sometimes like itachi. also i think the animators might just want to show the jutsu and you just have to assume the hand seals were performed.

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    yeah kinda like the way couting sheep wont actually help yopu sleep, it just makes you concentrate on sleeping and stop thinking abotu other things!

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    RE: Theory on Hand Seals

    I'm almost certain that Itachi does use hand seals. It's just that he's so fast it's hard to catch him at it. In his fight with Kakashi Itachi pulls out some weapon with one hand and does seals with the other. Kakashi makes some kind of comment about how the weapon was a distraction and the hand seals were so fast even he couldn't follow them.

    I guess he can do hand seals with one hand, and that's supposed to be difficult.

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    Theory on Hand Seals

    "Itachi - doesn't show any hand seals."

    Remember when itachi and Kakashi was on the water he did not see itachi's hand seal because Kakashi said Itachi was fast.



    "Orochimaru - Hardly ever uses hand seals, but can do the mud clone thing, the turn into a shadow, numerous other things without hand seals."

    When you do a cloning, for safety reason like the one that Oro did with the mad, you are not suppose to show you are doing a cloning jutso what's the point if the enemy is going to know. When Naruto do a cloning his enemy is going to say "o my god it's a clone"; because they did not see do a hand seal. Naruto still uses hand seal when he clone his self during the beginning of the fight.



    "Sasuke when he first uses the Chidori against Gaara, he uses numerous hand seals. However when he fight itachi, he doesn't use any hand seals. Also kakashi doesn't use any hand seals when he does chidori."

    The hand seal was not made because that part woul be less dramatic if there was hand seal.
    When Kakashi do a chidori with Zabuza I think he did some hand seal.







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    Theory on Hand Seals

    dude... no one can do jutsus without hand seals. it is kishimoto's choice to not show that on purpose.
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    Theory on Hand Seals

    Originally posted by: Mut@t@
    dude... no one can do jutsus without hand seals. it is kishimoto's choice to not show that on purpose.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    so right

    Naruto never showed the hand seals to make clones until he was in Haku's Ice Prison. He had just used clones vs the 2 samurai characters just before. so that kinda rules out the '2 hour' thing.

    Kishimoto just chooses when it adds to the story or flare of the anime. For example, when the 3rd did those seals uber fast it was just cool.

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    Theory on Hand Seals

    i agreed.would it be boring and pointless everytime they do a jutsu, they start showing the hand seals? now, once a while be be kool and adds sparks to the show.

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    Theory on Hand Seals

    As one poster had mentioned earlier Hand Seals are used to focus the mind in traditional Budo.

    http://www.furyu.com/onlinearticles/mudra.html


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    RE: Theory on Hand Seals

    my theory is its not interesting to see hand seals being half of the show so they choose not to show them most of the time, the reason why they show sakura do hand seals on a basic jutsu is because a) its the frist time we see her use it. b) it gives the fight the feel that she really is trying her best.
    the reaosn why they dont show itachi do seals is to give him a superior feel. the hand seal arent just there for doing the jutsu they also give the show a certain feel when they are used or not used.

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    RE: Theory on Hand Seals

    just some other example shown in the anime: The second could use suiton suijin heki with two hand seals (two that aren't even one of the 12 hand seals that everyone knows... tiger, dog, bird.. etc) while kakashi had to use numerous hand seals to do the same technique when fighting itachi...

    in the first few episodes.. when kakashi uses the water element water dragon thingy... they had to use like dozens of hand seals... while the third who used a similar technique only an earth element (doton doryudan or whatever) used maybe 10 or less.. then right after... combined karyudan with it...

    my theory is there must be a way to join jutsus with 'short cut' hand seals.. and maybe those hand seals that aren't of the dog, tiger, bird, etc. are like short cuts... also that once you've done certain hand seals you don't have to repeat them for a certain amount of time..

    and as for jutsu's with no hand seals... things like seini jashu (shadow snake whatever) sometime seem like they're done without hand seals..... or how about the fact that orochimaru can stretch his neck like a snake without using his hands (its also shown in the manga after his hands are burnt but i won't discuss it)..... anyways.. if stretching his neck isn't considered a jutsu... he has one disturbing talent...

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    RE: Theory on Hand Seals

    itachi and kakashi does hand seals too fast...

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    RE: Theory on Hand Seals

    I agree with kage_bunshin, when ever we saw Neji and Hinata use the Byuugan they did hand seals to set it up and then were able to activate it anytime they wanted.


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