217 manga out

[Death BOO Z]

I wouldn't go that far... Gaara is much stronger than people give him credit for...

until the exam, he was never harmed before, and he was in A-ranked missions, so it has to mean something...
when Lee dealt a blow to him, it was a small flash-wound, not more than a cat's scratch... and you should consider that Lee's taijutsu is nearing the rank of a jounin (unless you decide to go by Temari's words, which means that even she and Kankaru could handle some of his moves, and perhaps even win), which means that Gaara is basically at the level of a 'weak-medium' jounin...

and when Sasuke hurt him, it was by using a jounin level jutsu, and once by using the curse seal...
the only reason Gaara lost to Naruto (beside the fact that the plot called for it) was because they moved into the big guns section too quick, and the match became a challenge of power-ups, which is Naruto's field (seeing how Gamabunta is stronger than Shukako, and how Kyubi is an endless fountain of chackra)... if Gaara would have kept things small (human form) then he would have been able to kill Naruto in no time, even with only Taijutsu (and not even Sand Taijutsu, normal taijutsu)...

Gaara is stronger than almost anyone around, the rest of the sound as well, they just got bad match-ups in the fights, otherwise, they would have owned...

however, if Kimimaru was healthy, Gaara wouldn't have won, I think that kimi's ilness took alot out of him, you remember how he said to Tayuya that he's moving by willpower alone? it means something... and if you noticed, everytime he got crushed by sand, he had to stay in the next level to keep moving...


sorry for all the irrelvent talkings, i'm just really out of focus..

[Sooks]

Originally posted by: Death BOO Z
the only reason Gaara lost to Naruto (beside the fact that the plot called for it) was because they moved into the big guns section too quick, and the match became a challenge of power-ups, which is Naruto's field (seeing how Gamabunta is stronger than Shukako, and how Kyubi is an endless fountain of chackra)... if Gaara would have kept things small (human form) then he would have been able to kill Naruto in no time, even with only Taijutsu (and not even Sand Taijutsu, normal taijutsu)...

I think your mistaken, the reason why Naruto was able to beat Gaara was because he fought to protect his "important" person (Sakura). Unlike Gaara who fought only for himself. When Naruto did his Naruto Chronicles or whatever, he didn't use the Kyubi or even when he summoned Gamabunta. If that massive 2000 hit combo did as much damage to Gaara as it did, when he was partially transformed, which is just guessing 100x more sand around his body than his typical sand shield, if Gaara wouldn't have started transforming he would have been killed or severely injured by both the 2000 and 4000 hit combo that was coming.

Also, Gaara couldn't stop the Gamabunta that was summoned off of Naruto's chakra, thats why he released complete control to Shukako. Gaara used his trump card to early, when Naruto still had his waiting in his hand until the very end when he used the Kyubi's chakra to headbutt him.

Oh yeah 217 was an awesome chapter [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

Also pardon my poor grammar [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]

[Raven]

Originally posted by: Sooks
Also, Gaara couldn't stop the Gamabunta that was summoned off of Naruto's chakra

Nope, he used Kyuubi chakra for the summon.

So, if Kimimaro wasn't on his death-bed, Gaara would have been killed! See how he put up his arms in fear and defeat! Dammit, Kimi's death was such a waste of a bad-ass character. But he had to go eventually.

[Sooks]

Originally posted by: CmDr_RavEn

Originally posted by: Sooks
Also, Gaara couldn't stop the Gamabunta that was summoned off of Naruto's chakra

Nope, he used Kyuubi chakra for the summon.

I know he used it to summon him during Jiraya's training. I was under the impression, that he used his own chakra during the fight with Gaara. I'll have to try to find that issue of manga and redownload it [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] To figure it out.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: CmDr_RavEn
So, if Kimimaro wasn't on his death-bed, Gaara would have been killed! See how he put up his arms in fear and defeat! Dammit, Kimi's death was such a waste of a bad-ass character. But he had to go eventually.

true true true. i think rock lee should've died instead. =p

[Himura_san]

Originally posted by: Mut@t@

Originally posted by: CmDr_RavEn
So, if Kimimaro wasn't on his death-bed, Gaara would have been killed! See how he put up his arms in fear and defeat! Dammit, Kimi's death was such a waste of a bad-ass character. But he had to go eventually.

true true true. i think rock lee should've died instead. =p

Shut your mouth boy, Rock Lee is forever! Motherfucker! ;p

[queenlatifah]

Originally posted by: Himura_san

Originally posted by: Mut@t@

Originally posted by: CmDr_RavEn
So, if Kimimaro wasn't on his death-bed, Gaara would have been killed! See how he put up his arms in fear and defeat! Dammit, Kimi's death was such a waste of a bad-ass character. But he had to go eventually.

true true true. i think rock lee should've died instead. =p

Shut your mouth boy, Rock Lee is forever! Motherfucker! ;p

i second that. Talking or even thinking negative against Rock Lee is wrong and it's against the law. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img]