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    Oh man Sasuke got the pissed smacked out of him. I saw the sub with the profanity in it...It stung. "You're weak...Why are you so weak?..." *Moves in and whispers in Sasuke's ear* "Little bitch..."
    All I can say is...Damn. Damn
    "You are not free whose liberty is won by the rigour of other, more righteous souls. Your are merely protected. Your freedom is parasitic, you suck the honourable man dry and offer nothing in return. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, your time has come. This time you will stand alone and fight for yourselves. Now you will pay for your freedom in the currency of honest toil and human blood."

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    We dont need Tsunade to provide comic relief, every other character in Naruto is comic relief. We have Jiraiya, Naruto and Gai to provide comic relief in the current situation. There are only 4-5 characters in the entire anime that arent comic relief.


    As of now we have:
    Choji
    Ebisu
    Gai
    Iruka
    Konohamaru
    Rock Lee
    Shikamaru (he has his lazy schtick)
    Kakashi
    Sakura
    Naruto
    Jiraiya
    Pakkun

    Thats all I could think of, and even with that we dont need Tsunade to be cracking gambling jokes every 5 seconds. The episodes already get spread pretty thin, we dont need someone else cracking a joke every 3 seconds to take away from actual story.

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    Outtawack, Naruto is good the way it is. We don't need you telling us every 3 seconds why it could suck.

    Naruto is awesome the way it is...they have a perfect balance of serious and comic relief.

    Sasuke
    Kakashi
    Zabuza
    Haku
    Gaara
    Shino
    Neji
    Kankuro
    Kabuto
    Kurenai
    Hokage (pre-death)
    Dosu
    Kisame
    Itatchi

    I'd say my list of serious characters is just as long as yours...and we've both left out several characters as well. (Kiba, Ino, Temari, etc.) If it was all serious or all Comedy, it wouldn't be Naruto as we know it. I hope tsunade is as funny as it seems she's gonna be...and I think up to now, the Creators of Naruto have not let us down...lets trust them to make Tsunade as cool as can be.

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    Usually you dont have 1-1 comedy relief to serious characters. Or even 1-2 of the same ratio.


    My real problem is that she is being searched after to become a leader. I just can't see a leader of a Ninja village being that humorous, it would be a huge step towards demolishing any seriousness in the series. I hope she is cool. Actually, I am positive she will be since the only character I dont really like so far is Sakura. I just really believe they shouldn't make the next Hokage comic relief.

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    I don't see it as comic relief in that no one's really throwing out one-liners or anything. But it makes characters, and particularly heroes, more interesting when they're flawed, and yes, lots of comedy comes out of exploiting flaws, schticks, and weird habits. So, Gai's over the top, Jiraiya's got a wandering eye, Naruto is hyperactive, and Tsunade's got a gambling problem. Even Sarutobi turns out to have a bit of a pervert in him, and of course his less funny flaw of not being able to discipline his star pupil was the main drive for much of the anime so far. Imperfections make characters more lovable, and funny foibles make their problems more pronounced when they get serious. So Tsunade probably won't be cracking jokes about gambling, but you better believe her vice will be exaggerated for effect. After all, she's a Legendary Ninja; she shouldn't do things small (in more ways than one). [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

    Slightly off-topic, but IMO One Piece does a good job of this mix between comedy and drama. Every one of the main characters, with the possible exception of Robin, has a major flaw that's exploited for laughs. Luffy's a simpleton, Zoro nods off easily (he's usually straight man, though), Nami's got an unhealthy obsession with money, Sanji melts for women, Usopp's a coward, and Chopper's naive, but their backstories are all pretty depressing.

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    I guess I notice these things more since I just finished watching Rah Xephon...........

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    she does look fat in anime, better hope that she's not selfish like jiraiya or oro

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    Naruto 85 Discussion ***SPOILERS***

    Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
    Originally posted by: IamSpazzy
    little theory:

    I think that itachi is possessed, and he doesn't want to be. He knows that the only person who can kill him in his possessed state is possibly sasuke. so itachi kills everyone in order to motivate sasuke to become powerful enough to kill him.
    hahahaha lol i read that and started laughin. hehe thats fuckin retarted dude lol. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
    why is that funny?

    Akatsuki is like Illuminati, a secret organization that is trying to control the world by obtaining "demon" powers. plus the fact Akatsuki wears black robes and have their nails painted purple and very symbolic with their rings and crossed of their symbol on their headband. Not symbolic enuff? how about ,the funny coincedence when Itachi used Tsukomi (spelling?)on kakashi, he was on the cross...............

    Saying Akatsuki got on hold of Itachi and possessed him before he killed his clan. i dont think its far fetched idea.

    I also think Kabuto is involved w/ other organization, possibly with Akatsuki

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    (* crossed off their symbol on their headband is very symbolic thats mimicking Illuminati . Illuminati consists of 13wealthiest families from all over the world. Members are differnent nationalities and have the same goal to rule the world and excerise demonic powers. In the real world money is power. When you translate it to Naruto world ninjutsu is power, and each members r one of the best from their villages who are S ranked. So by thus scratching their symbol and not fully getting rid of it on their headband is conveying to us that they are from different villages that makes up the organization akatsuki. funny isnit?)

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    It always has to be something "inhuman" to explain overwhelming power, like with Itachi breaking out of the frog stomach jitsu. I love how it's a pattern that the villains always have something inhuman to explain their power (ie Gaara) but I guess it's fair for Naruto to have one as well but it's still pretty much a pattern.

    My guess is Itachi sold his soul or something to a demon early on in life or stumbling on some otherwordly power making his own Sharingan techniques or something.

    Overall a better epsiode though, those "cliffhanger" episodes can get irritating sometimes.

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    I don't believe in that "itachi sold his soul/itachi's an alien/itachi's being possessed" sh*t, but that's just me...

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    Naruto 85 Discussion ***SPOILERS***

    Originally posted by: orn210
    she does look fat in anime, better hope that she's not selfish like jiraiya or oro
    why is jiraiya selfish? doesnt he help naruto and doesnt he search for a hokage? oro is selfish as he only thinks of whats best for him. jiraiya helps out.

    anyway this ep was quite goodi hope they wont screw up thw story to much from here on.

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    Originally posted by: Uchiha Barles
    Oh man Sasuke got the pissed smacked out of him. I saw the sub with the profanity in it...It stung. "You're weak...Why are you so weak?..." *Moves in and whispers in Sasuke's ear* "Little bitch..."
    All I can say is...Damn. Damn
    ahahahaha.......thats awesome......if only he actually DID say that to sasuke....[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
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    Naruto 85 Discussion ***SPOILERS***

    hey tsunade didnt look fat, thats just her clothes damnit! all we seen is her back, and in the opening she doesnt look fat lol. and to Hokage-IV that was like the first page or something so i really dont care at this point, it was still a funny post.
    EDIT: to post above, in the manga wasnt he whispering like, 'why are you weak?' 'i know, not enough hate'

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    There are a few different translations, same basic meaning though. Sasuke is a little bitch compared to Itachi right now.

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    Originally posted by: Outtawack311
    We dont need Tsunade to provide comic relief, every other character in Naruto is comic relief. We have Jiraiya, Naruto and Gai to provide comic relief in the current situation. There are only 4-5 characters in the entire anime that arent comic relief.


    As of now we have:
    Choji
    Ebisu
    Gai
    Iruka
    Konohamaru
    Rock Lee
    Shikamaru (he has his lazy schtick)
    Kakashi
    Sakura
    Naruto
    Jiraiya
    Pakkun

    Thats all I could think of, and even with that we dont need Tsunade to be cracking gambling jokes every 5 seconds. The episodes already get spread pretty thin, we dont need someone else cracking a joke every 3 seconds to take away from actual story.
    thats quite exaggerrated
    just because a character is funny doesnt make him a "comic relief" character....i would not consider iruka, shikamaru, kakashi or sakura to be comic relief AT ALL, and then half of the others you listed have a good mix of funny and usefulness....but a person who is "comic relief" serves no other real purpose in the show than to break away from the seriousness....like ebisu and konohamaru

    however judging by the list you built.....wouldnt you add anko to it? since her entrance to the series was, as sakura puts it, "Naruto-ish"?
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    Naruto 85 Discussion ***SPOILERS***

    Originally posted by: Feannag
    It always has to be something "inhuman" to explain overwhelming power, like with Itachi breaking out of the frog stomach jitsu. I love how it's a pattern that the villains always have something inhuman to explain their power (ie Gaara) but I guess it's fair for Naruto to have one as well but it's still pretty much a pattern.

    My guess is Itachi sold his soul or something to a demon early on in life or stumbling on some otherwordly power making his own Sharingan techniques or something.

    Overall a better epsiode though, those "cliffhanger" episodes can get irritating sometimes.
    kishimoto is obviously mimicking illuminati in a obscure way... and illumanti's goal is to control the world and paved the way for the antichrist.... and if this some how end up being Hokage IV 's body is possesed and is the lder of the akatsuki or they want to revive him ...dont be too shock

    (perhaps Kabuto is involved in this field, perhaps that is why they showed his incredible medical skills, and making tsunade say those words(dont want to spoil for non manga rders), perhaps he is a spy against orochimaru cuz orochimaru left the organization and he was an important member. Perhaps bcuz hes the only one that knows how to do that forbidden jutsu and kabuto is spying on him to learn his spirit transfer jutsu or that other jutsu that revives the dead ..perhaps his red eye is indication of being possessed ...... perhaps...)

    I have a feeling we will see Hokage-IV in this anime , one way or the other.

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    Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
    nah dont u know tsuanade is hot? hottest old lady anime character i ever seen.
    *SPOILER PIC OF TSUNADE'S FACE*
    http://junta00.free.fr/persos/tsunade.jpg



    wow i take back all my doubts on tsunade now LOL [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
    cant wait!

    she doesnt look 50 just like how oro doesnt look old
    but why does jiraiya look older then these 2?

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    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    Originally posted by: Uchiha Barles
    Oh man Sasuke got the pissed smacked out of him. I saw the sub with the profanity in it...It stung. "You're weak...Why are you so weak?..." *Moves in and whispers in Sasuke's ear* "Little bitch..."
    All I can say is...Damn. Damn
    ahahahaha.......thats awesome......if only he actually DID say that to sasuke....[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
    The AJONE/FUNNYMATION subbed naruto 85 actually did say that in case you're interested. Not sure if the translation is accurate per se, but there's no denying it was brutal. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
    "You are not free whose liberty is won by the rigour of other, more righteous souls. Your are merely protected. Your freedom is parasitic, you suck the honourable man dry and offer nothing in return. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, your time has come. This time you will stand alone and fight for yourselves. Now you will pay for your freedom in the currency of honest toil and human blood."

    - Inquisitor Czevak

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    I also want to add that it seems Itachi is more powerful than Jariaya expected, he basically broke out of Jariaya's jutsu like if it was made of paper. It would be awesome if those two went head-to-head deathmatch but from what Itachi has said only a Sharingan user can compete with him, so that probably is wishful thinking on my part.

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