were is your post heading???Originally posted by: chambers
yes jing, and kurenai obviousley had littel to no experince with sharinggan as the first thing she does, is exactley what itachi wanted her to do. she also isnt a taijitsu specialist.
were is your post heading???Originally posted by: chambers
yes jing, and kurenai obviousley had littel to no experince with sharinggan as the first thing she does, is exactley what itachi wanted her to do. she also isnt a taijitsu specialist.
he's going to say that a taijutsu specialist is the sharingan's weakness, which is complete bullshit. speed, along with blindess are the only weaknesses that are evident in the series. there's also no evidence to show that itachi isn't just as fast, if not faster than the reknown speed demon, gai sensei.
Actually a really good counter for the sharingan would be the skill that Zazuba from the hidden mist had. He could have an impenetrable fog descend on the area, rendering sight useless. Kakashi wasn't able to do anything with his Sharingan and had to reply on his dogs
that's what i meant by blindness.
Well, if you guys remember during the Chuunin Exam when Kabuto was helping Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura and they were trapped and Naruto used his Kage Bunshin No Jutsu + Henge's, Sasuke used his Sharingan and he was able to locate bodies. So blindness wouldnt stop the Sharingan either.
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You don't make sense, Sasuke wasn't blind then, thats why he was able to use it.Originally posted by: NarutoMaster
Well, if you guys remember during the Chuunin Exam when Kabuto was helping Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura and they were trapped and Naruto used his Kage Bunshin No Jutsu + Henge's, Sasuke used his Sharingan and he was able to locate bodies. So blindness wouldnt stop the Sharingan either.
When you guys said that blindness is the Sharingan's weakness, I thought u meant that you have to make the Sharingan user unable to see his surroundings (like the Kakashi/Zabuza fight). If Sasuke was blind, then yes, his Sharingan would be useless but I thought you meant like having the surrounding area foggy or something that hurts the Sharingan user and has to rely on his other senses or jutsu's.
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Are you even listening to yourself?there's also no evidence to show that itachi isn't just as fast, if not faster than the reknown speed demon, gai sensei.
Yes, you're right. There isn't a DAMN bit of evidence to support this.
I don't get it... I agree with him, we don't know that itachi isn't just as fast as gai(though I don't think we have seen anything to show that gai is fast either but I may be wrong...).Originally posted by: Y The Alien
Are you even listening to yourself?there's also no evidence to show that itachi isn't just as fast, if not faster than the reknown speed demon, gai sensei.
Yes, you're right. There isn't a DAMN bit of evidence to support this.
Ok, maybe I misread him. I read that as saying there's no reason we shouldn't believe that Itachi's faster than Gai.
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He used it on Sasuke so he would create more hatred towards Itachi obviously [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]Originally posted by: jing
so its his best offence now eh............. were are you getting these things..
so he saves it for strong opponents like sasuke ..........
just because it drains the most chakra doesn't mean that it's the strongest jutsu. he is also very skilled in shuriken techniques.
@ jing the way i was going ( i didnt think id have to spell it out for you) is that OF COURSE itachi would own kurenai as she used a genjitsu right? thats what the sharingan is strongest against as it sees right through them. so of course she was going to get OWNED the second she used that attack.
and while there IS evidence to suggest that itachi may be faster than gai (the throwing knives) that doesnt prove tha he would be faster than a taijutsu specialist on his level. its an extrmely safe bet to say that he wouldnt as a specialist would likely focus on speed. if everyone else at his level was as fast then he would be a specialist.
this needs to be put to rest. here along comes gai, but now he is as strong as itachi, well he knows he cant look at itachi's eyes so he decides to use his good ol im just gonna look at itachi's sandals strategy. well after seeing ep 85 we now know itachi can use his sharingan so create black flames, and if you think he didnt use his sharingan for that your bullshitting yourself cuz why else would they focus on his eyes? so itachi now can just light up gai and laugh while gai runs around on fire. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
wait a sec, your the exact same person that told me that when it focused on his eyse a few eps ago when he first confronted naruto that it meant nothing!!! double standards this. this is no way on gods green earth you can come to the asumption logically that those black flames were form his sharigan. backing up this theory is the fact jira has never seen them, being from the village himself we would expect him to know about such a technique, considering the fact that konoha seemed so proud of its sharingan eyes. for all intents and purposes it IS just another technique, ok so its a strong one but it has nothing whatsoever to do with the sharingan so far. thats like saying the shadow rep is cos of the fox, its bullshit. but the fact reminas that he can still do it...... sharingan or not it seems to be incredibly powerfull especially beacuse jira had to seal it in a scroll.
Ya Chambers, but you can't assume it isn't from the Sharingan either, during Itachi's battle with kakshi and co on the river it would appear that kakshi was the only one who knew what was comming yet the other two are from the same village.
Yes we know all that, I want to know why you said it. She still got owned, and shes jounin. Which makes itachi a super jounin.Originally posted by: chambers
@ jing the way i was going ( i didnt think id have to spell it out for you) is that OF COURSE itachi would own kurenai as she used a genjitsu right? thats what the sharingan is strongest against as it sees right through them. so of course she was going to get OWNED the second she used that attack.
and while there IS evidence to suggest that itachi may be faster than gai (the throwing knives) that doesnt prove tha he would be faster than a taijutsu specialist on his level. its an extrmely safe bet to say that he wouldnt as a specialist would likely focus on speed. if everyone else at his level was as fast then he would be a specialist.
you still don't make any sense, the surrounding area wasn't foggy in the forest, that's what he was able to use it. sasuke had no blindness during the exam OR the surrounding. thats why he was able to use it, thats what were trying to say. and kakashi couldnt use his sharingan in the fog because he couldn't see zabuza. get it?When you guys said that blindness is the Sharingan's weakness, I thought u meant that you have to make the Sharingan user unable to see his surroundings (like the Kakashi/Zabuza fight). If Sasuke was blind, then yes, his Sharingan would be useless but I thought you meant like having the surrounding area foggy or something that hurts the Sharingan user and has to rely on his other senses or jutsu's.
dude. i don't understand you at all. i'm gonna explain the two different eye focuses. ok when the animators focused on itachi's eyes when naruto opened the door, that was to show that naruto was confused about who it was. they had naruto say 'wtf, he has the same sharingan as sasuke but it's not him' or something like that to make it even more clearer that mangekyou sharingan wasn't used. but when itachi was escaping from the toad's mouth and it focused on his eyes, he clearly used mangekyou sharingan right there. notice how everytime itachi used mangekyou sharingan, they showed that he closed his eyes for a few seconds before and then opened and there was a specific sound effect. from that we know amaterasu is a jutsu performed via mangekyou sharingan. chambers, just trust me.Originally posted by: chambers
wait a sec, your the exact same person that told me that when it focused on his eyse a few eps ago when he first confronted naruto that it meant nothing!!! double standards this. this is no way on gods green earth you can come to the asumption logically that those black flames were form his sharigan. backing up this theory is the fact jira has never seen them, being from the village himself we would expect him to know about such a technique, considering the fact that konoha seemed so proud of its sharingan eyes. for all intents and purposes it IS just another technique, ok so its a strong one but it has nothing whatsoever to do with the sharingan so far. thats like saying the shadow rep is cos of the fox, its bullshit. but the fact reminas that he can still do it...... sharingan or not it seems to be incredibly powerfull especially beacuse jira had to seal it in a scroll.
and someone said that itachi without sharingan would be just a regular guy. well, that's completely unfair. i can say this, gai without his taijutsu abilities would be complete garbage.
well unless your statementwas just thrown in randomly it would apear to be a swipe taken at the fact that a jounin ANT jounin could defeat itachi. but of course he OWNED kurenai, because she was using a technique he was strong against. where as perhaps if she used someting he was weak against then it may not have been 100% one sided.Look at it this way, ITACHI OWNED KURENAI TO HELL WITHOUT USING STUPID MANGEKYOU
I think someone mentioned that Itachi is useless without sharingan. So i had to say that he didn't really use mangekyou against kurenai. kurenai is a leaf jounin too. (leaf jounins are strong). believe me itachi willl still own her without sharingan, all he did was counter genjutsu.
yea, i meant that there's no evidence to support one of them being faster than the other.Originally posted by: Y The Alien
Ok, maybe I misread him. I read that as saying there's no reason we shouldn't believe that Itachi's faster than Gai.
Clarification, Cyberpunk?
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