Trick to Counter the Sharingan?

[Jessper]

Originally posted by: chambers
ok his *method* doesnt counter it, but his style (speed and strength) certianly does.

This was the point of my analogy, it doesn't counter it, it protects kind of(btw if the arrow wasn't moving too fast the leather would stop it).

What I'm getting from you is that if the person was stronger than itachi and knew how to fight looking at itachi's feet could win, but if he is just as fast as the person he is fighting(IE on the same level strength wise) and that person has to only look at his feet(no watching for seals) then he is at a serious disadvantage and itachi would still be able to predict movement and if they were the same level of strength he could probably win because he knew what was comming.

So I think I agree with you on a few points, gai can't beat Itachi, someone stronger than Itachi could beat Itachi for going eye contact. This leaves the problem of an equal fight and being forced to only look at his feet to attack.

[SofaKing]

Originally posted by: chambers
whos making things up you idiot? listen to me you for fucks sake. KAKSHI CANNOT DO MANGEKYOU, FOR GAI TO KNOW HIS METHOD WORKS IT MUST SOMEHOW COUNTER SHARINGAN ALSO.

Kakashi can still use the Sharingan to fuck with your mind, you retard. Like I said, you don't know what the
hell you are talking about, so you make things up whenever you interpret anything.

also i never said itachi wasnt stronger than kakashi. like i said some fucking idiots can only say "DUUURRRR BU DA ITACHI IS STWONGER DAN DA KAKASHI"

When you say stupid shit like "Gai being in control (49- 50 is it?) in there match ups clearly shows that this
proveds a CHANCE for such a strat to work against itachi", you are using Kakashi as an idicator of Itachi's
strength.

are you such a FUCKIN idiot that you seriousley believe gai would stand a chance, as in not last a single
second, as in not get a single muscle movement, as in not get a damn heartbeat in when he was fighting
itachi?

That's an incredibly self-serving definition of "standing a chance"

To stand a chance means that Gai could possibly win, not that he would need to survive for a second
before he dies.

[Black Knight]

LISTEN UP

if you cant have a calm discussion, you wont have one at all. got it?


this isnt aimed towards everyone. just the select few who think theyre proving a point with name calling..

[chambers]

no sofa king if you use your head and realise just how fast some guys can pull out there techniques or throwing knives then you would know that all they need to win is a heartbeat and catch them off guard. so its reasonable to assume that anyone who can last just a few seconds has a extremley slim chance of winning.

and of course iam using kakshi as an indication of itachis stregnth, he is for all intents and purposes a weaker version of itachi.

[Zabuza No Jutsu]

From what i saw in the anime (dont flame me for this it's just a thought) Gai did seem to have the counter-sharingan pretty much worked out, as he'd used it may times previously with Kakashi. Problem is, would even Gai's eyes be able to match Itachi's speed?

[Mut]

Originally posted by: Zabuza No Jutsu
From what i saw in the anime (dont flame me for this it's just a thought) Gai did seem to have the counter-sharingan pretty much worked out, as he'd used it may times previously with Kakashi. Problem is, would even Gai's eyes be able to match Itachi's speed?

no. he didn't counter the actual sharingan itself, he countered gejutsus performed by sharingan. don't mix up the two, they are totally different.

[Zabuza No Jutsu]

Originally posted by: Mut@t@

Originally posted by: Zabuza No Jutsu
From what i saw in the anime (dont flame me for this it's just a thought) Gai did seem to have the counter-sharingan pretty much worked out, as he'd used it may times previously with Kakashi. Problem is, would even Gai's eyes be able to match Itachi's speed?

no. he didn't counter the actual sharingan itself, he countered gejutsus performed by sharingan. don't mix up the two, they are totally different.

lol i was actually gonna type something along those lines but i thought "stupid idea"...ah well..hey anyway, what's the deal with kakashi's sharingan? He can't turn it off (hence the dinky looking forehead protector) would tht be cos he stole it frm an uchiha and ut it in him (hence the scar) ?

[kaigan]

worst come to worst, Gai just open the 8th gate and slaughter everyone and then die.

**************keep the flaming and insults going. it's sweet*************
-actually, dont... also, dont make comments like these.

[SofaKing]

Originally posted by: chambers
no sofa king if you use your head and realise just how fast some guys can pull out there techniques or throwing knives then you would know that all they need to win is a heartbeat and catch them off guard. so its reasonable to assume that anyone who can last just a few seconds has a extremley slim chance of winning.

and of course iam using kakshi as an indication of itachis stregnth, he is for all intents and purposes a weaker version of itachi.

Once again, you are making things up. Do you even WATCH the series or do you just read about it on forums
and pretend that you've seen it?

There have been many fights in Naruto between two characters where one of them did not stand a chance
that have lasted much longer than a heartbeat. Or do you think that Sasuke really stood a chance against
Orochimaru?

[Jessper]

Chambers, you take figures of speech way to seriously, by having a chance it means a probable chance of winning. Like your example somewhere about you fighting mike tyson, you had a chance(or so you say) because if he tripped and nailed the pole on the corner knocking him self out but then if that was the idea there would have been no point in using the term as there is always a chance that something couild go horribly wrong. The point in using the term is that something wouldn't have to go horribly wrong like them spontaniously combusting in the middle of a fight for them to win but they could...perhaps.

Also, Kaigan that's assuming that it would indeed give him enough power we don't know how strong Itachi really is just yet...

[kyuubi_]

c'mon chambers some people just can't accept the fact that there's always something to counter something.

they just want sharingan to be perfect and ignore all the pts we've pointed out..

[jing]

of course sharingan isn't perfect. But Itachi's is...
like itachi said, everyone has a weakness, and looking at your opponent's feet while fighting them just won't work.

[chambers]

why not?

[CyberPunk]

why not? because he's only looking at his fucking feet. you can't tell me that is any type of advantage, especially against someone who's moves were almost too much for kakashi to follow.

[Garlannd]

I better start pulling out the bars of soap.

To the Gai counter all I can say is this.

Look at the feet and hope not to be beat.

[evoL]

do you guys really think that just because Itachi is the strongest he can kill/defeat everyone?!? kyubii was by far stronger (a demom!!!!!) and still he got defeated...maybe there's more to it than pure strengh or skill....

i heard lot's of times in this forum that Itachi translation about jiraya was wrong, maybe it was correct, not that jiraya is stronger than him but that itachi can get hurt or even sealed or something in the fight

maybe gai trick is Itachi (sharigan weakness) join it with the gai ability to open the chakra gates and maybe itachi will be defeated. The fighting is not linear you cannot say Itachi > gai then he wins, weaker people have a chance even if a small one, that's real life and naruto creator seems to agree

[Vagabond]

Originally posted by: jing
of course sharingan isn't perfect. But Itachi's is...
like itachi said, everyone has a weakness, and looking at your opponent's feet while fighting them just won't work.

Well it works if you're faster than your opponent, but Gai isn't faster than Itachi so it doesn't work.

evoL: Yes, the translation is correct.

[Knives122]

and dont forget that what we saw when he fought Kakashi wasnt even the tip of the ice berg, so Gai wouldnt stand a chance

[Jessper]

Originally posted by: kyuubi_
c'mon chambers some people just can't accept the fact that there's always something to counter something.

they just want sharingan to be perfect and ignore all the pts we've pointed out..

You are an idiot, there is not always a counter to everything and we said that it does take away 2 things from the sharingan but that simply won't be enough.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: kyuubi_
c'mon chambers some people just can't accept the fact that there's always something to counter something.

they just want sharingan to be perfect and ignore all the pts we've pointed out..

there is actually a counter to sharingan that works 100%... you have to be a full uchiha and have mastered the sharingan just like what itachi said. gai's method only counters the mangekyou sharingan and that's about it, which really doesn't do that much.