no tien was originally a bad guy.....if i recall he was trained to be a killer by some guy who was roshi's nemesis
no tien was originally a bad guy.....if i recall he was trained to be a killer by some guy who was roshi's nemesis
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
First of all, everyone needs to realize that your all arguing theories as if one of them is 100% correct.
Anime, as of yet, nobody knows how strong tsunade will be, or compared to itachi jiraiya oro or the 3rd.
All you can do is assume, guess, infer, and envision different analysis based on variables, some more believable than others.
One I will like to put down on this post.
Oro was stronger then tsunade, who was stronger then jiraiya when under the 3rd's training.
Granted.
Just how Sakura and Sauske were better then naruto.
Have you noticed, was.. were.. when.. all past tense.
No longer the same.
If we base tsunade and jiraiya and oro's development the same as sauske, naruto, and sakuras development (which is an accurate method, considering its the same anime, so relatively speaking, its more then plausible) then Jiraiya should have far surpassed oro and tsunade, with oro still powerful, and tsunade the less of the 3. Naruto has far surpassed sauske at this point, and before all you sharingan sluts out there, i'm sorry, naruto would win, sauske has not developed enough as of yet, and im a sauske fan as well, so just shut up and accept it, bite your tongue until his time comes. Sakura is still the weakest, although perhaps she will get stronger, who knows.
As to jir, oro, tsun. Jiraiya should be the strongest based on the anime's choice of developing characters, with oro in second and tsunade in last, however with oro's arms (temporarily?) out of use, tsunade may be stronger. This is also unknown as of yet.
On another note, I do not think we'll see jiraiya fight in ep 85.
1. The preview showed itachi and sauske, as the title was also sharingan v sharingan.
2. Everyone wants to see jir fight, so they'll purposefully put it off and hang on to us, this is how TV Tokyo maintains ratings, this thing called marketing.
Using Naruto and group isn't necessarily accurate past the obvious group dynamic setup, however. Jiraiya doesn't have a demon sealed inside him for extra chakra, Orochimaru has no Bloodline Limit (unless he's from some snake clan), and nothing says Tsunade is as weak as Sakura. She and Orochimaru actually got the two bells from the Third while Jiraiya got tied to the log during the flashback in 84, remember, while none of the current three got a single bell from Kakashi during training. It would seem that when they were kids, Jiraiya was actually the weakest.Originally posted by: logic
If we base tsunade and jiraiya and oro's development the same as sauske, naruto, and sakuras development (which is an accurate method, considering its the same anime, so relatively speaking, its more then plausible) then Jiraiya should have far surpassed oro and tsunade, with oro still powerful, and tsunade the less of the 3. Naruto has far surpassed sauske at this point, and before all you sharingan sluts out there, i'm sorry, naruto would win, sauske has not developed enough as of yet, and im a sauske fan as well, so just shut up and accept it, bite your tongue until his time comes. Sakura is still the weakest, although perhaps she will get stronger, who knows.
As to jir, oro, tsun. Jiraiya should be the strongest based on the anime's choice of developing characters, with oro in second and tsunade in last, however with oro's arms (temporarily?) out of use, tsunade may be stronger. This is also unknown as of yet.
some people tell me tsunade is awsome cuz she got big tits and will pursuade Itachi with huge tits and make him surrender lol
yeah she does have big tits, but she awsome b/c she strong as hellOriginally posted by: Nammer
some people tell me tsunade is awsome cuz she got big tits and will pursuade Itachi with huge tits and make him surrender lol
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wtf are you guys doing. the mods will not be happy.
Steering away from Tsunades assets does anyone think Jiraiya has some sort of crazy tounge technique like Oro since toads are supposed to have long sticky tounges.
But then Oro could have his crazy snake like abilites because he is from a strange clan and not due to his summoning animal like I think. BUT if summoners gain their summons traits what do you guys think Tsunade has? ******** and the reason Kakashi wears that mask all the time is probably because he has a dog tounge!
-sorry for the late edit, guys. please don't spoil.
Well I think Jiriaya could beat Orchi with the use of his arms. He been watching him so he knows all his weaknesses. And yes the 3rd favored him.... but that doesn't mean he is stronger. Jiriaya has to be pretty freakin bad ass.. he was the 4ths teacher. And the 4th had to learn that jutsu with the Death God from someone. I think people are just underestimating Jiriaya and probably Tsunade too just because the 3rd favored Orchi.
For those who are still thinking Itachi is the strongest, here is some food for thought .. credits to the original posters [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
: Found this, thanks Darthender :
Kisame : "Perhaps you can fight him evenly...but I cannot. He is too strong."
Itachi : "Yes. If we both fought him, we would both be killed...or in a good case, we might kill him, but we'd die along with him. Even if we had more men, that result would not change."
With further investigation, it is found that the most credible MANGA translation ALSO mirrors this, as follows, credits to Raijin's post
"Although I could do a translation myself from the raw manga, here is the conversation (from the manga) between Itachi and Kisame after their confrontation with the Konoha Jounins translated by AK of Troy (the individual who translated Naruto Volumes 1-12 and is the translator at Toriyama's World):
Kisame - You may be able to keep up with him but I don't know about me...
Kisame - He's on a different level
Itachi - Yeah... Fight him and we either both end up dead or get lucky and get a draw
Itachi - Increasing our numbers likely won't make a difference
Kisame - We finally find him at the ramen place and his bodyguard is one of those "legendary three nins"...
Kisame - Against him, the name of the "Leaf's Uchiha Clan" and the "Mist Seven Shinobi Swordsman" will just be tarnished...
Itachi - Yeah... But...
Itachi - Even the most powerful have a weakness... "
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