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    Gaara's past makes Naruto's look like a cakewalk. Both have no parents (Gaara even seems to have memories of killing his...), both had to deal with being called monsters, both were isolated because of it.

    But having your father try to kill you and the one person who seemed like they loved you actually hate your guts, man that shit is bad.

    Sasuke's past had alot of bright spots, but you wonder if that makes the Itachi incident even more painful. Still, he had some good times before that and was popular amongst his peers (even though he didn't seem to enjoy it).

    Neji had a pretty shitty past too, but again he was still top of his class, still managed to get acknowledged by the main branch of the Hyuuga family and also learned that his father's selfless actions were appreciated. Recently things have been better for him.

    Zabuza I'm not sure about. He didn't seem sad (almost happy) about killing all his comrades. He seems to be quite content in the lifestyle of killing that he was raised in, although I wouldn't be surprised if he 'snapped' at some point. He did have to live with the failed coup, living as a fugitive, but he did also have...

    Haku. Haku also had the 'i'm a monster' past going, and the entire thing with his parents was fucked up royally, but at least his mother seemed to really care about him. He was also abandoned for some unknown period of time, became a killer and a fugitive. But I got the feeling that he genuinely was happy because he had Zabuza.

    Are we all forgetting about Kimimaro? That guy has a horrific past. No known parents, caged and neglected by his clan, forced to fight (which he did NOT seem to enjoy, he just did it). I'd imagine he had alot of I'm a monster angst going on that wasn't highlighted. Then he gets recruited by Orochimaru of all people, comes down with a fatal disease and 'dies' before he can serve his master. Then he's brought back to life and AGAIN dies before completing his mission while being ridiculed by Naruto, Gaara and Lee about the one bright spot: his serving Orochimaru. And that's a pretty shitty bright spot, but at least Kimi seemed to think of it as a good thing.

    So, in sum,
    1. Gaara
    2. Kimimaro
    3. Haku

    We don't know enough about Kakashi from the anime yet to rank him here... but it looks like he'll be pretty high.

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    I didn't really consider Kimimaro over the others because he's pretty much a clone of Haku to me. They were both lonely and rejected because of their powers, and found happiness in being used as a tool later on in life (by a villian, no less). The only difference is that Haku had to experience the pain of losing his family, Kimi was probably glad to be rid of his. I also never got the impression that Kimimaro was very bothered by all the stuff in his early life. He just kinda took it all in stride, and was more frustrated and confused than traumatized in my opinion. The two's pasts were pretty similar, and both ended up feeling "useless" to the ones they admired, but Haku also had to deal with his family being killed. I can only really sympathize with one of the two - so Haku gets my vote.

    Neither of the two match up to someone like Gaara or Sasuke, though, who have experienced loss yet have never found any peace in their lives. Both Haku and Kimimaro had found happiness by the time we caught up with them. They had found their reason to fight selflessly for another, and be content with their lives. Sasuke...well, Sasuke's character is completely based on the fact that he's utterly consumed by his past. It's turned him into a selfish, power hungry asshole who'll do anything for revenge. Even when the guy tries to be happy, he's haunted by the fact that he's not doing enough to exact his revenge on Itachi.

    Lee and Neji have had shit lives, but comparitively better than the above characters. They're struggles were mainly based on limitations they had to face, but haven't had to experience loss or isolation to the degree the others have. They're also reasonably happy atm.

    So really thinking about it, I'd say:
    1. Gaara
    2. Sasuke
    3. Haku
    4. Naruto
    5. Kimimaro
    6. Neji
    7. Lee
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    im gonna have to go with
    1.garra
    2.sasuke
    3.kimimaro
    4.naruto
    5.neji
    6.haku

    Garra first becasue of the whole thing with his father trying to kill him that is hands down crazy. Also he has the person he feels as the only one to care for him try to kill him and say he really didnt llike him. Sasuke goes second because he witnessed his own brother who he looked up to kill his parents even though it was a flash back with the sharigan he still saw how they died. Also he is forced into a destiny of revenge. Kimimaro goes third because he was locked up for years with no real human contact then forced to fight and see his whole clan killed. He is then taking in by one of the worst people ever then dies from an unknown illness before he can accomplish what he lives for. Ok heres when it drops of Naruto is here cause off the whole monster thing like garra but he was able to gain friends by acting like a clown. He also gets a family in sasuke, kakashi, sakura, jiraya and iruka. Neji past is messed up because he is the most blessed member in his clan but will always be marked with the cursed seal just because his father was born minutes after his brother making him a branch family member. His father is also sacraficed for the clan and its head family. What really sucks is he never knew his father did this in his own free will and believes the head family sacrificed him till later on of course. Haku is diffrent to me many may disagree but i believe his past wasnt as bad becasue life was regular untill he learned how to use jutsu and right afterwards he meets zabuza so he doesnt go thru the pain as long as the others. Again this is my opinon nothing really sollid lol.

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    I cant really tell who is the one with roughest past but I cant understand how most of you put sasuke so up in the list. Yeah he had his family killed by his borther, he was genjutsued to see how he made it and so. But he had a family for 8 years he has good memories of ppl loving him he grew on a place where he had love but he ended this twisted? There is a lot of ppl who hasnt even know what parental love is, what friends are for almost all their life. He is just a whining bitch "my family was killed buahhhh" omg he could fuck all the female ninjas in the academy! he is admired by almost everybody, ppl care about him. He is the weakest minded person of all Naruto together with Sakura.

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    hmmm this question brings up to my mind.
    What is more painful?
    Never having parents that love you? or
    Having parents loved you, then one day die and never to come back?

    Very hard decision to me

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    Sasuke : Had the person he most admired betray him and murder his entire clan.
    Kimi : He spent most of his life feared and imprisoned in a cage.
    Haku : His mother killed by his father and driven from his home by those who hated him.
    Neji : Born into a life of servitude and essentially denied freewill (not to mention the thing with his dad)

    while the rest didn't really have a wonderful past it was more of a case of noone likes me im all alone ..but you know what they'll move on and get over it and the worlds always gonna be full of people that arn't gonna like you.

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    Well, gathering my thoughts:

    - Sasuke's entire clan was murdered by his own brother whom he (and everyone else) greatly admired. Effect? Still in play. His entire life turned around and the goal he set out is to take vengeance on his brother. He pretty much had it going on, what with all the girls liking him (with exceptions, of course) and being a genius, but it was ruined.
    - Tsunade may be hokage and (now) have faith in Naruto, but her two most loved ones died.
    - Kimi never really had or got anything. As GhostKaGe stated, he spent most of his life in solitude. He was merely Orochimaru's pawn, and ended up dead, no one shedding a single tear.
    - Neji's problems turned out to be temporary, as he's now slightly better off. Of course, he's still a part of the lower line of the Hyuuga clan and his father's dead, but it's really not as bad as his father being used by his uncle and him living on his own in the streets. He's got something. In fact, a number of people's fathers have passed away, but his father passed away for a nobler reason.
    - Haku's father killed his mother and he spent most of his life despised because of his bloodline. He followed Zabuza in hope of some reason to live, and he eventually sacrificed his life to save Zabuza. Both of them are dead. (:O...)
    - Naruto's past really bites. His parents are dead, he has a demon fox sealed inside of him so children used to pick on him, and girls find him rude and/or annoying.

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    What about that little kid in the curry of life filler arcs? He's pretty much another Haku / Kinimaro, but he's got immobile legs to top that off. He also doesn't die serving his master, though, and ends up happily making... curry... so I guess he's not that high up there.

    I feel (like most people) that Gaara had the suckiest past. He's got Naruto's isolation and Sasuke's betrayal and murder factor. Really sucks to be him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edort4
    I cant really tell who is the one with roughest past but I cant understand how most of you put sasuke so up in the list. Yeah he had his family killed by his borther, he was genjutsued to see how he made it and so. But he had a family for 8 years he has good memories of ppl loving him he grew on a place where he had love but he ended this twisted? There is a lot of ppl who hasnt even know what parental love is, what friends are for almost all their life. He is just a whining bitch "my family was killed buahhhh" omg he could fuck all the female ninjas in the academy! he is admired by almost everybody, ppl care about him. He is the weakest minded person of all Naruto together with Sakura.
    But isnt it worst to have something taken away from you instaed of never having it? Think about it for a second say u lived almost the perfect life a family thats well respected, a mother and father that loves you, and a brother you look up to. Then imagine the person you looked up to most just kills everyone you cheerished most. Its 10X worst having something taken away from you then never having it at all especially the way this happened.

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    Thats another discussion. I think that is better something good even if its for a short time than never having it, but that is just a personal thought. What isnt so subjective is that Sasuke had everything to recover from that truly shocking event. He could have almost as many friends as he wanted, he had people that acknowledged him but he chosed to stay down. He wasnt strong enough to keep going, im not talking about forgetting his revenge. But he could have lived better than those other "monsters". Well this is only my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edort4
    Thats another discussion. I think that is better something good even if its for a short time than never having it, but that is just a personal thought. What isnt so subjective is that Sasuke had everything to recover from that truly shocking event. He could have almost as many friends as he wanted, he had people that acknowledged him but he chosed to stay down. He wasnt strong enough to keep going, im not talking about forgetting his revenge. But he could have lived better than those other "monsters". Well this is only my opinion.
    Sasuke didn't do all of those things because hatred, not depression. That's the key difference I notice. I don't think he ever once tried to ellicit sympathy out of anyone because of what happened. I would call him emotionally weak, but only for choosing the wrong path to follow, and not because he's some emo kid who likes to complain.

    Sasuke felt living a "normal" life after what happened would be a waste of his time. He didn't chose to "stay down", he chose to "move forward"...just, in a very different direction than everyone else. He's been forced to live a life of hatred - just remember Itachi's last words to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genma
    I feel (like most people) that Gaara had the suckiest past. He's got Naruto's isolation and Sasuke's betrayal and murder factor. Really sucks to be him.
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    He's Kazekage now, though

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    Quote Originally Posted by master_me
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    We're talking about his past, not his future.

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    Ah, my bad. Missed that part. In that case, I'd agree with you.

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