"THEY SET ME UP THE BOMB"
- Itachi
It seems like People only believe what they want to believe. You know tunnel vision. First people don't want to believe that Itachi is probably weaker than Jiraiya despite numerous translation agreeing with this. Hell people rather believe the mistranslation. Now Itachi is innocent and that he is not evil. I thought that it was clear in the flashback that Itachi killed everyone. Even in the dialogue between Sasuke and Itachi suggest this. Do people even read subtitles anymore? This is getting rediculous.
I dont dubt Itachi is weaker then Jira and i dont dubt that he is evil and killed his clan. But I could probably make a decent fanfic that would make him not evil. but then agane i dont want to.
I dont dubt Itachi is weaker then Jira and i dont dubt that he is evil and killed his clan. But I could probably make a decent fanfic that would make him not evil. but then agane i dont want to.
But you fail to realize is that Itachi used his little technique to show what happened to the clan, he control's everything in that world so if he wanted to he could show himself killing all the Hokage's at once. The reason why I think he innocent is that it just doesn't add up the genious of the clan picking on the weaklings. Even Lee knew if he wanted to test his strength he had to fight Sauske and not Naruto.Originally posted by: codeRed
Now Itachi is innocent and that he is not evil. I thought that it was clear in the flashback that Itachi killed everyone. Even in the dialogue between Sasuke and Itachi suggest this. Do people even read subtitles anymore? This is getting rediculous.
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hmm.. i was wondering.. if itachi shows sasuke the images of clearing the entire clan was fake.. coz he's already on a one way road.. and there's no way he could help sasuke to improve.. so he's trying to motivate sasuke ? and by then he'll show the truth that it wasn't him that did it..
i believe that sasuke wasnt the only uchiha kid at that pt of time.. maybe he is.. but if there where.. that means they're killed too.. like that two old couples.. i don't think they can do much too.. but they're killed by itachi too.. so why doesn't itachi kill sasuke ? i believe sasuke can do better than those two..
Just to throw my 2 cents in, I can think of a couple reasons Itachi may have killed his clan.
1. Maybe it was a requirement to get into the organization he is currently in, or at least, a way to show them he was worthy.
2. Its possible that he jealously guards the power of the Sharingan. By wiping out his clan he insures that nobody else is running around with it, and no new Uchihas are being born with it. Granted, he lets Sasuke live, but he's just one person and he can keep track of him or not as he chooses, not like he can't just go deal with him later if he chooses.
But thats not to say I'm not willing to accept the idea of "testing himself". Nevertheless I also believe, like some others here, that he is not referring to his power, he's referring to his ability to do anything to achieve a goal. Someone else said something to the effect of "I think a ninja would know what he would and would not do" but I disagree. It's like the saying goes, "you never really know what your capable of..." until you have to do it of course. Itachi knows that if he is capable of killing everyone in his family and his entire clan without remorse, then there is truly nothing he won't do to accomplish his goals, whatever they may be.
i think that all of akatsuki members are s-rank criminals and i don't think there is a requirement for it. i think it's just a coincidence. i mean, look at it this way... how are they going to conspire against bunch of villages/countries if you're part of a village?
Secretely?
i think sasuke is itachi's experiment and toy, he's itachi's experiment to show how far hate can motivate someone to become stronger and stronger.
I don't know if what Itachi did to Sasuke was an experiment or what, but at least it looks pretty deliberate. He kills everyone while Sasuke is gone. He waits for Sasuke to come back (we see him sitting on that telephone poll when Sasuke gets back to his neighborhood). After he sees Sasuke he doesn't just take off or attack him, but instead goes back to their parent's home to wait for him and then use his special technique while standing over their parents' bodies.
If he went through all of that trouble it seems like he wanted to accomplish something specific and not that he spared Sasuke because he was weak.
I think Itachi was in trouble with most of the adult Uchihas and since Sasuke was
A. Maybe the youngest Uchiha,
B. Probably the only one that begged for his life
C. His good little brother
might all be factors why Itachi sparred Sasuke's life. But anyway, whatever his reasons were, Itachi has to live up with the consequences! mouahhahaha!
That sounds about right. Of course Itachi never really said that he was capable of killing without remorse - maybe he regrets it - but he acts so much like a cold bastard that I doubt there really is any good in him.Originally posted by: DarthEnder
Just to throw my 2 cents in, I can think of a couple reasons Itachi may have killed his clan.
...But thats not to say I'm not willing to accept the idea of "testing himself". Nevertheless I also believe, like some others here, that he is not referring to his power, he's referring to his ability to do anything to achieve a goal. Someone else said something to the effect of "I think a ninja would know what he would and would not do" but I disagree. It's like the saying goes, "you never really know what your capable of..." until you have to do it of course. Itachi knows that if he is capable of killing everyone in his family and his entire clan without remorse, then there is truly nothing he won't do to accomplish his goals, whatever they may be.
It's not beyond the realm of comprehension for Itachi to turn to be not as evil as he seems. After all, Orochimaru is pretty much the only "evil" villain we've encountered so far.
Zabuza is just ruthless, but he turns out to have a soft side, as we see in the end.
Haku, well, you know.
Gaara's just a psycho.
Neji's just a jerk, and possibly not even a villain.
In the end, the plot for one of the main villains of the series so far is not going to be "dur, I killed people so kill me."
IMO Itachi is guilty of killing his clan, but i dont know why he kept Sasuke alive. Pretty good ep tho.
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DIDN'T WE SEE ITACHI KILLING THEIR PARENTS RIGHT INFRONT OF SASUKE? CAN SOMEONE POST UP A SCREEN SHOT, AND END THIS POINTLESS ARGUMENT. OF COURSE HE KILLED THE CLAN. OF COURSE HE KILLED SASUKE'S PARENTS, AND THAT WAS NO ILLUSION BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY DIED INFRONT OF HIM.
Caps lock, learn it, hate it, don't use it.Originally posted by: jing
UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
DIDN'T WE SEE ITACHI KILLING THEIR PARENTS RIGHT INFRONT OF SASUKE? CAN SOMEONE POST UP A SCREEN SHOT, AND END THIS POINTLESS ARGUMENT. OF COURSE HE KILLED THE CLAN. OF COURSE HE KILLED SASUKE'S PARENTS, AND THAT WAS NO ILLUSION BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY DIED INFRONT OF HIM.
The scene with Itachi killing the parents is part of the mangekyou sharingan so it was an illusion. This is shown when sasuke enters the room the parents are slumped over on the floor already dead then during the mangekyou sharingan it shows them on their knees getting cut down by Itachi.
now the question is.....if itachi DIDNT kill the clan, then why did he go out of his way to make it aware to sasuke and the rest of konoha that he did?
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
i have no idea why the FUCK people think itachi didn't kill his clan and family. someone post right now and tell me what other possibilities there are. i would like to hear your theories.
Hey im not saying that he 100% didn't kill his clan, but their is reasonable doubt. You shouldn't be so stubborn and look at only one opinion. First, the way Kishimoto made Itachi's parent's death. He made it so that Itachi showed only a genjitsu to show that he killed the clan. And we all know taht genjutsu is an ILLUSIONARY technique, so we do not KNOW that he killed his clan. Yeah, he probably killed his clan. Okay. That would make Itachi such more of a badass. But there is still doubt, and we will never know until they show exactly what happened that night.
Because if someone else killed his clan for the sharingan and Itachi was only trying to protect them, Sasuke will go after that someone else and that somone else will most likely kill him. This will allow Itachi to have some sort of protection over Sasuke because if Sasuke seeks Itachi, he will either:1. Be stronger than Itachi and Itachi won't have to worry about the someone else killing Sasuke for the sharingan or 2. Be weaker than Itachi - and Itachi will not kill him, but instead motivate Sasuke to become stronger. And if Itachi didn't tell the entire town that he killed the clan, then Sasuke will obviously find out and go after the "real killer".Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
now the question is.....if itachi DIDNT kill the clan, then why did he go out of his way to make it aware to sasuke and the rest of konoha that he did?
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