Originally posted by: Mut@t@
so, ok.

at 12 years old, itachi massacres his whole clan, which is about 5 years ago (i believe itachi is 17). then we can assume that he peaced out on konoha and then became an s-rank criminal. so... anytime from now and 5 years ago, itachi joined akatsuki. anyway, i am almost positive and sure that orochimaru left akatsuki before he got his arms killed.

and let me repeat this for the 500th time... itachi distracted jiraiya, NOT BECAUSE HE WAS AFRAID, BUT TO AVOID CONFRONTATION AS HE WAS PLAYING IT SAFE AND SMART SINCE THEY WERE IN NO RUSH. the mission could've been a failure and nothing bad would've come out of it. we know this cuz if they had to capture naruto then and there, they would've stayed and fought.

god damnit, i had a real good 'when who left when and joined akatsuki when' theory last night right before i went to sleep... i forgot it now! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]
what are you trying to prove? i thought this discussion was over......

" NOT BECAUSE HE WAS AFRAID, BUT TO AVOID CONFRONTATION AS HE WAS PLAYING IT SAFE AND SMART SINCE THEY WERE IN NO RUSH"

again ur mixing onpinion into fact., this is what i ment about trying to analyze itachi's personality and use it as a fact. From a naked eye (prior to the confrontation) itachi admits facing jiriaya would risk his and kisame's lives. Then during battle , itachi retreats. But ur onpinion is, he wasnt afraid but he just wanted to avoid confrontation? im not saying thats right or wrong but thats just ur onpinion. Like i said b4, unless you are bias and look at evidence that favors itachi and neglect other facts that contradicts it, you should see there is no conclusive evidence that itachi is the strongest... not yet...

1) Itachi admits facing Jiriaya would risk his life
2) Itachi distracts Jiriaya away from Naruto
3) when confronted and Jiriaya started to show aggresiveness, Itachi retreats

what am i trying to prove? difference between fact and onpinon. Similiar to the topic that was going around , strongest and potential to be the strongest is 2 different things. *cough*