Is anyone as excited as me to see Jiraiya fight?

[Shinoro]

New member here [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

Anyhow back to the topic, I have to admit I got goosebumps first time I saw Kurenai get ready to fight along with Asura against Kisame and Itachi, even though I knew she wouldn't stand a chance. She got totally hosed as far as showing her abilities, first fight in the series and she's pit against Itachi. I'd like to see her fight someone else around her skill level and see what she can really do.

But yeah the girls in this series have really been outshun. I also wanted to see what Tenten could do, Temari was boring. I loved Hinata, her episodes of coming out of her shell and fighting Neji was great, even though she was almost killed, I really didn't know she had it in her. I am really looking forward to seeing Jiraiya and Tsunade, should provide for some entertaining episodes.

[Stoopider]

Hi Shinoro. Welcome!

Yes you will.. Don't worry.. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

[?igma]

Originally posted by: Destiny
The person i'd like to see in action would be the 4th Hokage, it's too bad he's dead tho. I rekon the 4th vs Itachi would be an awsome battle

Since the 4th has the death-god skill (or had, however you like it) 4th vs Itachi would only be or a draw (meaning both get killed by the death-god, or it would be an easy win for the 4th, its after all his "power"that sealed the kyuubi, I reckon you need quite more power for it then Itachi has...

[chambers]

after that last ep i REALLY want to see him fight now.

[?igma]

not spoiling, but 84 pwned [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

[chambers]

it aint really spoiling if its outa and people havent been arsed to dl tho is it.
but your right it did.

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

Jiraiya, with his frog magic, is more of a healer than a killer. And so is Tsunade and Naruto is a sense. I sure would like to see him healing, that ought to be interesting.

[chambers]

urrrrrrrrrr what?
healer? how so, the only thing weve seen him do so far is fight and perv!

[SK]

healer? after seeing 84 looks like jiraiya is about to kick some ass.

[chambers]

indeed. and some SERIOUS ass at that.

[Mongoose]

Er, the next time we see Naruto healing someone is the first. Jiraiya doesn't do much sitting around mending things, either. Tsunade, she hasn't shown up in the anime yet outside of flashbacks and her back, so who knows...

[Kurapica]

I just read some info on this site and it clearly states that A) Sharingan is weak against Taijutsu and isn't effective against other Advanced bloodlines .
B) Sharingan evolved from Byakugan. I allready had my mind set up about Sharingan being less effective against Taijutsu and it would surely increase the chance that Itachi can be defeited by Taijutsu. But what about point B, this is the first time i heard about that.

The site is http://elite-shinobi.com/index.php?es=info/clans

[chambers]

yes but that site saying taijustu is strong against sharingan is like me saying that its weak against shinos bugs.

just cos its on a website dont make it true.

but in this case i happen to agree, but not thats its weak more that there is almost no way a sharingan user can be as good at taijutsu as someone who dedicates themselves to it.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: Kurapica
I just read some info on this site and it clearly states that A) Sharingan is weak against Taijutsu and isn't effective against other Advanced bloodlines .
B) Sharingan evolved from Byakugan. I allready had my mind set up about Sharingan being less effective against Taijutsu and it would surely increase the chance that Itachi can be defeited by Taijutsu. But what about point B, this is the first time i heard about that.

The site is http://elite-shinobi.com/index.php?es=info/clans

it's only weak against taijutsu only if the sharingan user isn't as fast as the taijutsu user. so many inaccurate and lame websites say that sharingan is weak against at taijutsu using rock lee vs sasuke as an example and they don't even put why it is weak against.

[chambers]

yeah i agree, its only weak against some one thats slower, same as it would be weak against anything if the user was a lot slower.

[Mongoose]

Well, of course no one knows for sure, but I'd think fast taijutsu would at least make the Sharingan less useful. Consider: the Sharingan's main power, outside of Itachi's strange (and frankly somewhat idiotic) you're-in-my-world thing, is to predict and counter opponent techniques. However, the faster the technique, the harder it is to counter just by using the Sharingan, because the user has to first recognize and then act, and unlike the other disciplines of Naruto-anime ninjitsu, taijutsu has no seals or anything to give you more time. The Sharingan user still has to take a few nanoseconds to identify the move and then act to counter, so in essence they have to be faster than the attacker to be effective. The Sharingan also seems to tire any user out after continued strain, so continued quick taijutsu could theoretically wear the user down. Assuming, of course, that the attacker isn't dead before the Sharingan user starts to tire, since they have to counter anything the Sharingan user throws out in response...

[Mongoose]

But getting back on topic, it looks like Jiraiya's finally ready to whip out some whupass in ep 85. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

[chambers]

indeed we may see the end of kisame!

[Knives122]

probably not because we know how the characters like that in animes work

[Mut]

Originally posted by: Mongoose
Well, of course no one knows for sure, but I'd think fast taijutsu would at least make the Sharingan less useful. Consider: the Sharingan's main power, outside of Itachi's strange (and frankly somewhat idiotic) you're-in-my-world thing, is to predict and counter opponent techniques. However, the faster the technique, the harder it is to counter just by using the Sharingan, because the user has to first recognize and then act, and unlike the other disciplines of Naruto-anime ninjitsu, taijutsu has no seals or anything to give you more time. The Sharingan user still has to take a few nanoseconds to identify the move and then act to counter, so in essence they have to be faster than the attacker to be effective. The Sharingan also seems to tire any user out after continued strain, so continued quick taijutsu could theoretically wear the user down. Assuming, of course, that the attacker isn't dead before the Sharingan user starts to tire, since they have to counter anything the Sharingan user throws out in response...

i guess that can be somewhat true. the sharingan doesn't really 'predict' opponents techniques. that's what gai's method is. sharingan almost 'knows' what the next move is (it's a very fine line between the predicting and almost knowing, but bare with me). the part about sharingan that makes it so deadly (besides mangekyou sharingan) is that it instantly reads movement and becomes even more customed to it even after short use with the same movements (as seen in haku's and lee's fights). even though the sharingan user might not know what the move/attack the opponent is using the sharingan enables the user to react to it instantly, as long as the user is fast enough. also, from what we have seen, a master sharingan user does not tire out from continuous sharingan use, except when he/she performs mangekyou sharingan. sasuke becomes tired (i don't remember him tiring from using sharingan, only after he received the curse seal he tires from sharigan use) because he hasn't mastered it like itachi has. even though kakashi can use the sharingan at a greater degree than sasuke can, he becomes even more tired because he is not an uchiha. from what we've seen, itachi does not get tired from constantly activating his sharingan.