you asked me this: "why would Itachi face Naruto head on in the hotel and distract Jiraiya??"Originally posted by: Stoopider
Wow. So much feedback. Brain overload. Hmm. Sorry Mutata. I don't get what your saying.
i said to avoid confrontation. but this doesn't mean itachi was scared or anything, it was to avoid unnecessary fights, so itachi is playing it smart and safe. i mean, itachi is strong and all, but fighting a sannin isn't good for you even if you're itachi.
didnt they say itachi was also an S-class criminal? i dont think the S means sannin......it prolly means "super", or something engrishy like that
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Originally posted by: Superman
WTF. What could you possibly need the raw for? AA may have made a translation error, but if you knew japanese, you would be able to tell this from the subbed version as well.Originally posted by: Destroyor
I believe that anbu may have make an translation error, but since I don't have the raw I'm not 100% sure.
You are absolutely right, stupid me .... ><".
Anyway after going back to that part of eps.83, the 2, yes 2! sentences are as follow:
His caretaker is a legendary Sanin. <---note the period.
Konoha's Uchiha Clan and the Mist's Seven Shinobi-gatana seem petty before his (meaning Jiraiya) name.
And base on my poor jap, no name were ever mention, and AA did not made an error afterall. The two above sentence is spoken by sharkface and no name was mention, so it's just the way he said them that causes confusion.
Remember,the manga will always be more accurate than the anime.So therefore,anything said in the manga wil hold more ground than the anime.This is the case in all series that have an anime adopted after a manga.
I agree, Legendary Nin. Therefore, I think that we can virtually disregard the anime's themes of "We'd both die against Jiraiya". The manga is a much more reliable source, and it never says it there.
I think I know precisely what I mean
when I say it's a schpadoinkle day
Actually, the manga has mentioned it, but the current circulating translated chapter where it is said is somewhat mistranslated.Originally posted by: CmDr_RavEn
I agree, Legendary Nin. Therefore, I think that we can virtually disregard the anime's themes of "We'd both die against Jiraiya". The manga is a much more reliable source, and it never says it there.
Although I could do a translation myself from the raw manga, here is the conversation (from the manga) between Itachi and Kisame after their confrontation with the Konoha Jounins translated by AK of Troy (the individual who translated Naruto Volumes 1-12 and is the translator at Toriyama's World):
Kisame - You may be able to keep up with him but I don't know about me...
Kisame - He's on a different level
Itachi - Yeah... Fight him and we either both end up dead or get lucky and get a draw
Itachi - Increasing our numbers likely won't make a difference
Kisame - We finally find him at the ramen place and his bodyguard is one of those "legendary three nins"...
Kisame - Against him, the name of the "Leaf's Uchiha Clan" and the "Mist Seven Shinobi Swordsman" will just be tarnished...
Itachi - Yeah... But...
Itachi - Even the most powerful have a weakness...
wow, that's pretty gay.
*jumps off itachi bandwagon*
lol, just kidding. i still believe that itachi will never lose to anyone he comes across. he might not totally beat them, but never lose!
but anyway... how reliable is ak of troy...?
The translation differences won't be settled until there is a real battle between Itachi and Jiraiya.
TW's (and thus AK of Troy's) translations have I've found to be the best naruto translators thus far. In terms of image quality I've found Inane better (I like their colored pictures heh) but TW has always had the edge on translations in both the manga in anime (this is nearly undisputed within the community I've seen). Too bad they look at quality too much and pretty much disregard speed of release totally. Although I don't really know what source raijin for that text from (from their site in the forums I'm assuming), but it will be interesting to see how Itachi-fans will react to that.
you cant say that the manga translation will always be more accurate than the anime translation cause both can be mistranslated just the same
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
this is never gonna end. why couldn't naruto come out in english [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]
EDIT: i meant why couldn't kishimoto write it in english. =p
Naruto come out in English??
But then we would have to buy them [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]
MmmMmm. Ooiiishiii
Actually, in the manga you'll see that Jiraiya fights Ochimaru by himself, because Tsunamu is fighting with Kabuto. And Jir does win in the end against Och and no arms... It's kind of a tough comparisson actually
Uh.... since when are we discussing Jiraiya vs. Oro? I thought it was about Jiraiya vs. Itachi, and what Itachi said.
I think I know precisely what I mean
when I say it's a schpadoinkle day
Need someone who understands japanese *extremely* well to offer more information on this [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] Pretend the A/A and other translations never existed, and just tell us what you think Itachi/Kisame said [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
jiraiya doesn't win actually. orochimaru plants jiraiya's ass in the ground.Originally posted by: AznSensation
Actually, in the manga you'll see that Jiraiya fights Ochimaru by himself, because Tsunamu is fighting with Kabuto. And Jir does win in the end against Och and no arms... It's kind of a tough comparisson actually
I haven't read that part in the manga for a while but wasn't jiraiya when he was fighitng oro still under the effects of the drugs that tsunade put in his sake?
And Memnoch if in fact AK of Troy did translate that text like I said I'm pretty sure it's accurate. Actually if you check out the animesuki forums one of the memebers translated it himself and it is virtually the same.
Lmao cool [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] I've always thought Itachi was = or > Jiraiya, now I have Itachi himself admitting as much [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
It seems like it doesn't matter who translated it people still don't want to believe it and still insist that Itachi is the strongest and that there is no equal. I was surprise myself when the dialogue came up but it seemed pretty much cut and dry that Itachi admits that Jiraiya is stronger.Originally posted by: skyro
I haven't read that part in the manga for a while but wasn't jiraiya when he was fighitng oro still under the effects of the drugs that tsunade put in his sake?
And Memnoch if in fact AK of Troy did translate that text like I said I'm pretty sure it's accurate. Actually if you check out the animesuki forums one of the memebers translated it himself and it is virtually the same.
i dont think they necessarily confirmed who they were talking about did they?
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