My god!!, is A/A translation bad, or were itachi and kisame overestimating naruto. I mean wtf. Why are they like......"we'll die if we fight him" i mean shouldnt itachi and kisame absolutely destroy naruto.....
My god!!, is A/A translation bad, or were itachi and kisame overestimating naruto. I mean wtf. Why are they like......"we'll die if we fight him" i mean shouldnt itachi and kisame absolutely destroy naruto.....
just a translation error. nothing big. and it's obvious that they were talking about jiraiya the whole time. naruto was never brought up.
i believe in the manga!
it's so annoying how anime adds random, unnecessary shit to throw us off. i bet you, in the episode where itachi retreats, they'll have kisame says something stupid like "YOU IDIOT, WE WERE ALMOST KILLED! GOD, WE CAN'T HANDLE JIRAIYA, HE'S TOO MUCH FOR THE WHOLE AKATSUKI ORGANIZATION"
or something crap like that.
Haha, therefore fueling the fire of "Itachi is no match for Jiraiya, he'd get pwned any day of the week". I can see it happening after watching 83.
I think I know precisely what I mean
when I say it's a schpadoinkle day
yea on second watching i agree with u mutt, thats annoying though coz now we dont know wat to belive....bcoz according to what there saying if itachi > orochi and jiriaya > itachi it could possibly be jiriaya > orochi | but i dunno.....it may be like scissors paper rocks lol
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i find it hard to believe that itachi and kisame vs jiraiya would mean certain death for itachi and kisame, because itachi is stronger then oro, but jiraiya coupled with tsunade had a hard time fighting oro so it doesn't make sense maybe in a one on one fight with jiraiya he could lose but not when he's coupled with kisame
Yeah that was a messed up translation.
They kept talking about how strong someone is, then they say "He has a Sannin as a companion". So does that mean they are talking about Naruto the whole time before Jiraiya was mentioned? That is messed up if that is the case.
I mean Naruto could go insane Kyubi and I still think he couldn't beat Itachi, hell he couldn't even beat Kimimaro..
So they have to be talking about Jiraiya the whole time.
I think Naruto could take Itachi on. It might be a long going fight to death but, Naruto could do it. It's not just he's has Kyubi to fall back on but with Naruto's determination he could go head to head and come out some what intact. Lets not forget Naruto's next in line to be Hokage after Tsunade. Time after time he's proven that's he's extreamly powerful.
Once again, Jiraiya was DRUNK DURING THAT BATTLE AND TSUNADE WAS STILL RECOVERING FROM HER BLOOD THING/HEALING FROM THE WOUND!Originally posted by: DeluxSkillz
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i find it hard to believe that itachi and kisame vs jiraiya would mean certain death for itachi and kisame, because itachi is stronger then oro, but jiraiya coupled with tsunade had a hard time fighting oro so it doesn't make sense maybe in a one on one fight with jiraiya he could lose but not when he's coupled with kisame
Jiraiya was poisoned by Tsuande. Tsuande still had her intense fear of blood. Of course Oro couldn't use his arms, but thats why Oro and Kabuto could at least hold off on the other two sannins.Originally posted by: DeluxSkillz
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i find it hard to believe that itachi and kisame vs jiraiya would mean certain death for itachi and kisame, because itachi is stronger then oro, but jiraiya coupled with tsunade had a hard time fighting oro so it doesn't make sense maybe in a one on one fight with jiraiya he could lose but not when he's coupled with kisame
You'll notice that as soon as Tsuande got over her fear of blood, and Jiraiya was recovering from the poison, Kabuto and Oro fled.
Didnt the kaga bunshin in eps 1 match the kaga bunshin during kimimaro? i find its the same lol
more or less, naruto was in a high emotional state so its possible that the kage bushin was the same amount in both occasions
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I believe that anbu may have make an translation error, but since I don't have the raw I'm not 100% sure.
Either that or the producers really mess up, they (Naruto anime producers) need a better QC team, bad.
Anyway yeah this undoubtly put a dent in the "Itachi is the strongest ninja alive" theory, 2 vs 1 and still a stalemate? WTF? The guy that had Oro shitting his pant can't even take on someone Oro hold off against even when it's 2 senin vs 1??
WTF. What could you possibly need the raw for? AA may have made a translation error, but if you knew japanese, you would be able to tell this from the subbed version as well.Originally posted by: Destroyor
I believe that anbu may have make an translation error, but since I don't have the raw I'm not 100% sure.
Yeah. I think Itachi and Sharkface probably feared Jiraiya. If not, why would Itachi face Naruto head on in the hotel and distract Jiraiya??
I would think Jiraiya who have lived for very long time probably have faced many sharingans before, before they were all wiped out by Itachi. So Jiraiya would be very experienced going against sharingan users.
But then again, Itachi is one of a kind. And Itachi is still relatively very young. (He's around 18? right?).. ANd Jiraiya is around 50+ which would mean he probably have went through many battles and a war or two as well.
MmmMmm. Ooiiishiii
I just watched the episode, and they are most definitely talking about Jiraiya, thats why Itachi from what i can see had that woman distract him to get to naruto without interference from jiraiya, im a huge fan of naruto and even i think he has no change against itachi yet
you must've missed out on a lot of discussion in the manga section about that topic. itachi is playing this smart and safe. itachi's isn't THAT much stronger than jiraiya so of course he'd rather take the safe way if he could. there is no point of going for a direct assault cuz jiraiya will cause them a lot of trouble.Originally posted by: Stoopider
Yeah. I think Itachi and Sharkface probably feared Jiraiya. If not, why would Itachi face Naruto head on in the hotel and distract Jiraiya??
He's only avoiding an unnecessary battle. Plus, why would Jiraiya have faced the Sharingan, i.e. the Uchiha clan, before? They're all part of the leaf, there's no need for them to have fought (apart from fighting Itachi now). I'd guess that he's never faced the Sharingan before, but he most likely knows what to expect.Originally posted by: Stoopider
Yeah. I think Itachi and Sharkface probably feared Jiraiya. If not, why would Itachi face Naruto head on in the hotel and distract Jiraiya??
I would think Jiraiya who have lived for very long time probably have faced many sharingans before, before they were all wiped out by Itachi. So Jiraiya would be very experienced going against sharingan users.
But then again, Itachi is one of a kind. And Itachi is still relatively very young. (He's around 18? right?).. ANd Jiraiya is around 50+ which would mean he probably have went through many battles and a war or two as well.
I think I know precisely what I mean
when I say it's a schpadoinkle day
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WTF. What could you possibly need the raw for? AA may have made a translation error, but if you knew japanese, you would be able to tell this from the subbed version as well.Originally posted by: Destroyor
I believe that anbu may have make an translation error, but since I don't have the raw I'm not 100% sure.
You are absolutely right, stupid me .... ><".
Anyway after going back to that part of eps.83, the 2, yes 2! sentences are as follow:
His caretaker is a legendary Sanin. <---note the period.
Konoha's Uchiha Clan and the Mist's Seven Shinobi-gatana seem petty before his (meaning Jiraiya) name.
And base on my poor jap, no name were ever mention, and AA did not made an error afterall. The two above sentence is spoken by sharkface and no name was mention, so it's just the way he said them that causes confusion.
Remember,the manga will always be more accurate than the anime.So therefore,anything said in the manga wil hold more ground than the anime.This is the case in all series that have an anime adopted after a manga.
Just reminding people about that fight, Jiraiya was drugged by Tsunade right before that fight. Kabuto had to HELP Oro summon the snake, and Oro still had to run away before being killed. Tsunade would have fucked him up hard core.... all i got to say about that...
anyway, so i think it's possible for Jiraiya to be stronger than Oro, but i don't know by how much exactly...
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