Naruto's secret

[hornetmike]

Well, i believe a lot of you may have misunderstood me. i don't hate sakura, i just don't like her. ha ha ...
Anyways, i don't really believe she's meant to be a great fighter. after all not everyone can be great. Yes, she is smart. and she has great chakra control. that's not the point though. the point is that she doesn't contribute much to team 7. nor does she contribute much to the story.

Meaning she's not as important as she should be. we haven't seen her in the manga in a while. i don't hear anyone crying about it. at least no one in their right frame of mind. we really don't know much about her. no real background. she has no real ambition. which leads me to question her purpose for becoming a ninja in the first place. i would think if not to protect your friends or yourself, you'd work a little harder. Both naruto and Angsty as syllaw put it are at chunnin level now. which means they'll get involved with more dangerous tasks and missions. thats means she'll be a burden to her team if they have to constantly save her whinny ass. as a matter of fact she's holding them back. she doesn't even ask kakashi to train her. i'm sure he'd be willing to. even if it's just one move or technique. something.

Alright, she can't really fight. i can except that. there's nothing wrong with it. but at least make some suggestions during battle. figure out an opponent's weakness. do something, anything besides screaming for naruto of sasuke-kun. if i hear here say that one more time i swear i'll .............
Alright. now that i've said what i needed to, like i said before. For now she's nothing more than a glorified cheerleader. that may change soon(oh god, i hope so). but right now she expandable. not necessary. useless. i'll stop right here for now

[FearTheMullet]

Originally posted by: hornetmike
. nor does she contribute much to the story.

Except being the driving force behind Naruto, who is the main character. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
(at the Gaaraa vs Naruto fight)
"I will protect my friends" (Picture of Sakura flashes here)

When Naruto and Sasuke were training how to run up trees Naruto kept wanting to impress Sakura. I think she contributes quite a bit. Theres a pre pubescent ninja running around whos totally obsssed.

[Stoopider]

Imagine what would happen if..... with the absence of Sakura in the anime.

"I will protect my friends" (Picture of Sasuke in tight sandy bondage flashes here). [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

*Barfs*

[Ryllharu]

I really hope Sakura does become important once again, on more than just a story development level. I like Sakura (or at least I used to before her only line became "Sasuke-kun" followed by vast amounts of crying). Right now, she is as useless as can be, Konohomaru is probably a better ninja by now. The manga seems to have forgotten about a lot of the lesser combantants that they introduced.

As for the original topic, doesn't the whole villiage know that Naruto either has the Kyuubi sealed in or thinks that he IS the Kyuubi? I'm not sure if all the gennins know, but SOME of them must of heard the reason why their parents told them not to play with Naruto when they were younger.

As to whether or not Naruto relies on Kyuubi for strength, that's stupid. Naruto has a HUGE amount of chakra in his own right, he took several hours of constant fighting to exhaust himself so he could get at the Kyuubi's chakra when Jiraya was training him to use Gamabunta. And when they were learning to use tree-climbing-no-jutsu Kakashi said that Naruto didn't have as much of a problem because he has so much. He's used the Kyuubi's chakra directly (healing doesn't count) maybe 6 times so far (Haku, Neji, Gaara, the 2 times he's summoned Gamabunta, and maybe during the Kimimaro (sp?) fight). The anime has made it easier to figure out which one he's using, anytime red chakra swirls around him, its Kyuubi's. Every other time he's done something huge (super shadow clones) the anime has colored it blue, thus he's using his own chakra.

[orn210]

yeah only the old or some jounins know about kyubi but in the stupid korean special they(team7) knew about it......

[FearTheMullet]

Originally posted by: Ryllharu
The anime has made it easier to figure out which one he's using, anytime red chakra swirls around him, its Kyuubi's. Every other time he's done something huge (super shadow clones) the anime has colored it blue, thus he's using his own chakra.

And as far as we know it to be, he performs Rasengan with his own Chakra

[Knives122]

He doesnt need the Kyubi to create the ball of chakra if he did it would make him seem incredibly weak to us, b/c he would need to use the K Chakra everytime he was in trouble so it

[Mut]

rasengan isn't about how much chakra is used, it's about how you manipulate the chakra. that is why naruto was able to attempt at it so many times during his training.

[FearTheMullet]

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
rasengan isn't about how much chakra is used, it's about how you manipulate the chakra. that is why naruto was able to attempt at it so many times during his training.

That is why, in my opinion, it makse for a more powerfull and efficeint jutsu then Chidori, CHidori immits large ammounts of Chakra, but can only be used a certain number of times, whereas Rasengan doesnt and as is evidence of the roof encounter,ransengan is more destructive.

[orn210]

yeah i liked the look on sasuke's face when he was about piss his pants after saw that tank's hole naruto made lol[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

[The Lord of Morning]

i dont think any of the genin know about it. its not like anyone has said outloud that naruto has kyubi in front of ANY of the genin. hell many jounin didnt even know he had the kyubi, when he is fighting neji the two jounin beside hinata are shocked at naruto's power, and so is the referee.

i dont think its supercommon knowledge that naruto has the kyubi. i think that many of the adults do but it seems there is a cutoff somewhere(since many dont). i would guess only those that were at the battle against the kyubi know, and even now are following the 3rd's wish to keep it a relative secret. just because he is dead, he was loved so greatly that i doubt they would start chatting about it openly, probably as one of many laws he set down that they are keeping out of respect or simple common sense since it shouldnt be common knowledge.

even when fighting itachi, i dont think sasuke was paying attention enough to find out WHY they were after naruto, he just knows his brother is after him. he has seen naruto show this tremendous power but how the hell is he or anyone else supposed to just guess that the kyubi, a uberdemon that was 'defeated' years ago, was actually sealed in naruto? we know it cause we read but the characters sure as hell dont know any of that.

[PSJ]

Originally posted by: orn210
yeah only the old or some jounins know about kyubi but in the stupid korean special they(team7) knew about it......

hmm you may be a little wrong on this one.. everybody at the age of lets say 18+ knows about naruto being sealed in naruto. basicly the ppl that lived when 4th seald kyubi knows it exept the children that were under the age of 5 or so but even they could remember it. thats why none of the genins knows they were born that year and the year before.

[The Lord of Morning]

I would guess that only the ninja at the battle knew, and while a few ppl might have told, i would bet the secret it still only amont ninja, not regular people. otherwise would the ramen guy let naruto ever come to the store? i doubt it.

also why would the jounin be suprised at naruto's power. now of course the 3rd recognized the power and new immediatly that naruto could channel it, his suprise was at who could have trained him. the jounin couldnt even fathom what that strange chakra was. This is a strong indication that not all ninja know, but rather elite ones at kakashi's level i would guess. now toothpick guy is a jounin, and the two sitting beside hinata i would guess are also jounin. few seem to actually understand kyubi's power and naruto's relationship to it. even the two jounin that were training the other two teams were suprised at naruto's ability. the female jounin (although newly raised) was expecting kiba to win.

now this could be attributed to the fact that no one expected naruto to be able to channel the kyubi's power even if he had it in him, except for the elite who understood the seal better. i seriously think less people know that we should assume. True all the parents 'hated' him but maybe they didnt know fully why. people make assumptions on little information and others suffer for itall the time.

[PSJ]

yea but remember when everybody graduated exept naruto, EVERYBODY talked about it the 2 females knew about kyubi one of them were about to mention it. so all ninjas should at least know it. its a big thing if the hokage dies ppl wan to know why.

[Baranthal]

Hrm, sakura is important for one main reason, she is one of the focal points of the rivalry between sasuke and naruto. Every story needs a character that provides motivation to the protagonists, and Sakura is the personification of the rivalry between naruto and sasuke in many ways.


Another thing to keep in mind, is that Naruto probably has more chakra potential then any genin we've met. A good analogy (wierd, but go with me), is the guy who is a champion hot dog eater. Naruto overflows himself with chakra from the nine tails enough times, eventually it's going to stretch out the container that normally contains a certain amount of chakra, and Naruto will have a greater chakra capactiy. One key point in the series for me was when he did the mass replication against Gaara. From my perspective (also the way they colored the anime), he did not use any nine tails chakra to do this. That was an enormous amount of chakra to do that.

The same thing with the rasengan. One of the comments made by Tsuanade is that naruto's attmepted uses of the rasengan were never containing the power of the fourth (while he was training). Saying that the rasengan doesn't take much chakra I think is a bit off kilter in compared to chidori, mainly due to how much chakra that Naruto was using to "charge" his balls of chakra during the training.

[The Lord of Morning]

i cant watch the first few episodes so cant double check on what was said. i am going mostly on how the jounin and ninja behaved to seeing naruto summon the ninetaisl chakra during the chuunin exam. yes we know he was shunned early in life and that is important to how he has developed but maybe ppl know to avoid him even if they dont exactly why? even the kids in school avoided him even though they didnt know why and this may apply to people who only recently have become higher ninja like the jounin i am referring to.

i definatly agree, as he draws more chakra and uses it more often he is able to summon even more the next time, and summon it more easily. he seems to have transformed into lvl1 naruto fairly easily when had to face kimimaro, and also now facing sasuke. the whole eyes changing, black marks on the cheeks and more clawlike hands etc etc. he definatly couldnt do that at will not that long ago.


about rasengan. my translation for it SUCKS and i cant seem to get the inane version so could you please tell me what the hell tsunade said. i have read other posts referring to how she says the power is nothing like the 4th's and totally confused on that. does this mean there are higher levels to the rasengan (i remember reading there are six levels and he has only mastered 3) and the 4th had mastered all six or something?

also, when jiraiya is first explaining the rasengan, he says it took the 4th 3 years to master this jutsu, did he mean 3 years to figure out level one, or 3 years to master the rasengan completely (all 3 or 6 levels of it)?

[hornetmike]

well about the rasengan. He said that the 4th was a certain number of levels above the 3rd. Not sure how many. My guess is that there is more to the technique than naruto has mastered.

[M1N10N]

I think Sakura will "bloom" later on in the series.

Right now she is basically useless as many have said, however she does have the best Chakra control. I think after the Sand/Leaf -vs- Sound fights are over and there is some sort of progress with Sasuke's part of the story, we will see Tsunade take Sakura on as her student.

I mean when you think about it: Orochimaru has Sasuke and Jiraiya has Naruto, so its only logical that Tsunade takes on Sakura. Her Chakra control would surely lend itself well to healing since it probably requires very precise actions. Also, besides Kabuto, Tsunade is the only Healer in the series that's had more than 1 or 2 lines (refers to the guys with the stretchers during the Prelims). And since she's the Hokage now, that doesn't leave any A-List healers (again, as far as we've seen) to watch over the Leaf.

[mprose]

I would imagine that just about everyone KNOWS that Naruto has Kyuubi sealed inside of him. The thing is that very few people know that he can draw chakra from it. Just mine 2 cents...

[PSJ]

Originally posted by: The Lord of Morning



about rasengan. my translation for it SUCKS and i cant seem to get the inane version so could you please tell me what the hell tsunade said. i have read other posts referring to how she says the power is nothing like the 4th's and totally confused on that. does this mean there are higher levels to the rasengan (i remember reading there are six levels and he has only mastered 3) and the 4th had mastered all six or something?

also, when jiraiya is first explaining the rasengan, he says it took the 4th 3 years to master this jutsu, did he mean 3 years to figure out level one, or 3 years to master the rasengan completely (all 3 or 6 levels of it)?

i guess this only means that naruto cant do the jutsu as well as 4th. and as for that 6th level jiraiya is talking about thats how strong the jutsu is. jutsus seem to be grouped in 7 diffrent levels, 7 being the strongest then 6, 5, 4 well you get it. so no there arent 6 diffrnet levels to master the rasengan its just the parts naruto did. but naruto hasnt mastered it yet ha has only learned it. he cant do it like jiraiya in a split second with one hand he needs a clone to from it or his other hand.