Not everybody has the priveliege of living in a big country which sells anime here and there, you moron.Originally posted by: Lego
This is something i don't get about some people.
But if you like a series enough to go download it, complain when it gets licensed, ask for another group once a group stops it after being licensed, then why not buy the DVD's when they come out?
who the hell cares if its licensed. that only stops a couple of subbing groups. loads carry on doing it and releasing it from DVDrip or from TVrip. jst dont use gotwoot or animesuki to get ur anime torrents.
I'm not too familiar with the rules about licensing, but if ANBU/AKeeP were to keep subbing FMA, now a licensed series, and get caught, wouldnt that take away all of the other series those 2 subgroups work on. Like, for example, if ANBU gets caught subbing the licensed FMA, wouldnt they have to stop doing other series like Naruto (cause that would suck if that were to happen).
The only reason they stop is that Funimation would go Metalica on their ass so anyone and everyone that has had any contact with the illigaly sub eps would be arrested and fined a huge sum of money. thats why they stop. Thye wouldn't half to stop subing naruto since it's not lisenced in the US yet, they just couldn't because they'd either be in jail or to broke to care about subing.
Here are my thoughts.
I've been dealing with these issues for as long as you all probably. Fansubs have been around for a long time now and we always have this issue when a series gets liscensed. and all I have to say to everyone is DEAL! We all have to.
If you love it so much, purchase it when it's available. If you don't want the domestic DVD's then Import the Dvd's for yourself when they become available.. stick away from ebay, those are usually morons who d/l it from people like you and sell their own copy's to people.. (they piss me off ><[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Also, I know there are a lot of you who d/l fansubs who are not from the United States. I personally can feel for these people, because once a company here gets the rights, we stop for the world. Now if a group starting subbing them out of another country, like england, then maybe they could get away w/ it... however I do feel that the company in the US might try to do somthing, if not to the host, but to people who help him or d/l their stuff, thus if it came down to it they would have to pull it due to people getting it illegal, but thats a whole debate that would come to be and would probably look very bad for the company w/ the liscense.
now that I've said that, all I have to say is that all we can do is be greatful to have seen what we have, Personally I'm going to wait and buy it, not from the US distro, but from either Japan or Hong Kong eventually. The anime distro's in the US seem to not realize that w/ a series w/ over 50 eps, putting 3 eps per dvd is INSANE! Now I think for 30$ you should get atleast 6 eps. I used to ONLY purchase from US distroers, but due to lack O funds, need to get the cheapo's, even if the subtitles are horrible, it's always better than the crappy english voice overs they do. GOD I HATE DUBBED ANIME!!!
all subbers should move to switzerland : P
(this is a joke btw for those that anger easily)
I just saw the trailers for FMA at the FUNimation site. It seems really promising. We might not half to worry about it being given the DB treatment....I hope [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
no, actually, the possibility of that happening is rare. Some fansubbers will stop because they want people to buy it, others, will keep going. The companies won't lose any money anyway, and, being as they are much smarter than RIAA and Metallica, they realize that the free distribution will actually increase their sales because the people will want to support the anime creators...The only reason they stop is that Funimation would go Metalica on their ass so anyone and everyone that has had any contact with the illigaly sub eps would be arrested and fined a huge sum of money. thats why they stop. Thye wouldn't half to stop subing naruto since it's not lisenced in the US yet, they just couldn't because they'd either be in jail or to broke to care about subing.
Down with RIAA hehehe, sy, had to throw that in
Oh, and i'm not saying AKeep should continue, its their policy. I'll just get it from somewhere else and buy the DVD's later when they do come out
Yeah... i dont think they stopped because of being scared of being caught... I think that's simply their morality policy....
you can't even @find licensed anime on their channel, so that means they dont approve of fansub distribution if it's licensed regardless
Are you serious about FMA being licensed? or is that just a rumor?
check for yourself... or read all the posts
Lego:
Its not easy for a student to buy dvd all the time plus we europeans dont have the luck to get all the animes on dvd and if they come her ( they usually come to us several years after US) they are lot more expensive than 25 dollars!
gaaralovessand: Evearyone country dont have channels that show licensed anime for godsake!!
yeah yeah yeah. . . Well then get your own countrymen/women to do fansubs instead of putting all the pressure on us Americans who have to deal with our money grubbing companies breathing down our necks.
The licencing of anime is part of a business industry, part of our economic system. Economic systems are dependant on something called MONEY. If you don't have it, you don't get the products. These anime series are made in Japan for Japanese TV, not for American and European markets. They know that they can make more money by selling distribution rights to companies over here, and they do. But since there isn't room on the airwaves for every anime series that gets licenced, and because most Americans wouldn't want to read their TV shows, we have to pay to see them subbed on DVD. It's part of the economic cycle of importing anime. That's the way it goes.
I think the whole fansub system has spoiled too many people into this false belief that they have the right to have free anime. Fansubs are a privilage. These people take their own time to put these things out for free, and to avoid the risk of being caught breaking the law they stop subbing when the series gets licenced. If they feel that it's worth the risk to continue, then they're sticking their necks out for you on top of their regular efforts. And because so many people take this for granted, they get spoiled so whenever a series gets licenced and people stop fansubbing it, they get all bent out of shape when a few years back, the only way to get anime was to pay to get the videos or DVDs. Dont' be such little brats. You can't always get what you want.
Although it sucks to have FMA licensed, I'm wondering if the FMA game on PS2 will get translated to english for a US release.
its only been licensed for america, its still legal for me [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] so any fansubber not from the US can still sub without too much worry of being fined, altho more than likely its going to be in swedish or french etc
I'm pretty sure the game is coming out in the US.Originally posted by: DraGunZer0
Although it sucks to have FMA licensed, I'm wondering if the FMA game on PS2 will get translated to english for a US release.
Hmmm... guess I should start saving up for another Square Enix game
I also felt sad when FMA got licensed. Its another Gundam Seed type of thing lol but hey life goes on. I'm also not from the US so i dont have access to Anime DVD's... legit ones and not the HK bootlegs and even if i could try and purchase online alas i dont have a credit card so i can only rely on fansubs. But i guess this is just a minor setback.. theres always some group who's gonna finish the series *think Sonchou and Aoi-anime* [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
exactly! Just look at Chrno Crusade and Ghost in the Shell SAC. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
they have announced FMA for PS2 in the states. Sorta looks like Kingdom Hearts. I new that was coming out here before the anime got licensed.
Although some people really need to loosen up. People need to realize that theres more to life than just animation. It's ok to like anime, I mean, I do. But people here talk as if a meteor has destroyed their life. Deal with it.
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