Itachi

[SofaKing]

Answeres to Itachi vs. Gai nonsense:

#1 Taijitsu is strong against a sharingan user

The sharingan's weakness to taijitsu is being vastly overblown. Let's look at what the sharingan can do:

1) see through taijitsu, ninjitsu, and genjitsu
2) copy taijitsu, ninjitsu, and genjitsu
3) play mind games with the opponent

The sharingan still gives an advantage to it's user on all three points. It helps see the enemy's movements
better, can still copy taijitsu techniques (even if it requires the user to already have the speed to perform
them), and (since the user has likely used it to copy ninjitsu before) provides the user with a wide range of
ninjitsu and genjitsu to use. Furthermore, it requires the taijitsu user to not look into the sharingan user's
eyes, which would make it more difficult for them to fight.

#2 Gai is faster than Kakashi

Even if this is true (can anyone actually back this up?), it's only put Gai ahead by 1 match out of 99, so
how much of an advantage is this going to give him against Itachi? If anything, it says that Gai has to be faster
than a sharingan user just to fight evenly. And Itach is faster than Kakashi as well. Much faster.

#3 Itachi left when Gai showed up

Itachi works for a secretive organization persuing some secret goal. Fighting a huge battle with half of the
ninja in the village isn't the best way to keep a low profile. Remember, Gai said that ANBU were comming
as well.

[chambers]

iam NOT obsessed wiht gai, i dont even like him that much, i think jira is a much more interesting char, i just think that its gai up to now, thats more likley to defeat him!
espesh when jira isnt even in the village anymore!

[Legendary Nin]

The point is,you won't be able to find it,even if you watch 28 hours of Naruto.I challenge you to find the quote,I title it the..

<u>Kakashi knows every jutsu challenge!!!!</u>

Here are the rules ..

1.You must tell us who subbed the episode of Naruto you found it in.
2.You must tell us the time in which it says that.
3.You must take a screen cap of it
4.It must not be a mis-translation
5.The screen cap can't be edited except for resizing,same with the episode.

Then,someone can verify if this true.If it is true,I will allow Ciber or any mod to BAN ME!!! That's how positive I am on this not being true.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: Legendary Nin
The point is,you won't be able to find it,even if you watch 28 hours of Naruto.I challenge you to find the quote,I title it the..

<u>Kakashi knows every jutsu challenge!!!!</u>

Here are the rules ..

1.You must tell us who subbed the episode of Naruto you found it in.
2.You must tell us the time in which it says that.
3.You must take a screen cap of it
4.It must not be a mis-translation
5.The screen cap can't be edited except for resizing,same with the episode.

Then,someone can verify if this true.If it is true,I will allow Ciber or any mod to BAN ME!!! That's how positive I am on this not being true.

rofl, i'm in on this deal.

[chambers]

yeah i thin kpoint 3 is mure, because no one is disputing that he was scared (or at least iam not) he left because thats what he was trying to do the whole time.
point 2 your right it cant be backed up, except if you count circumstansial evidence fomr the stadium fight which doesnt actually state hes faster but certianly implies it, also the stadium is good in that IIRC it was counted as part of there competition right? so form that we can take it that not all the competitions are actually fights, but rather some are contests between the two.
point one, you cant really say it makes it more difficult as gai is used to it. but you still have to take into account the fact that its ok if he can see and copy the moves, but if he cant defend thats the key.

and again ill state that i dont think gai is the only one who would beat him, or that he would hammer him, just that hes most likley!

[IamSpazzy]

We can be pretty sure that Kakashi doesn't know them all. I don't think he knows sexy jitsu. I don't think naruto ever pulled that one on Kakashi

[Jman]

Originally posted by: Mut@t@

Originally posted by: Legendary Nin
The point is,you won't be able to find it,even if you watch 28 hours of Naruto.I challenge you to find the quote,I title it the..

<u>Kakashi knows every jutsu challenge!!!!</u>

Here are the rules ..

1.You must tell us who subbed the episode of Naruto you found it in.
2.You must tell us the time in which it says that.
3.You must take a screen cap of it
4.It must not be a mis-translation
5.The screen cap can't be edited except for resizing,same with the episode.

Then,someone can verify if this true.If it is true,I will allow Ciber or any mod to BAN ME!!! That's how positive I am on this not being true.

rofl, i'm in on this deal.

Truly a man with no fear. Lol you guys are too much.
I wonder if anyone is going to go through hours of Naruto out of pure desperation. *cough chambers cough*

[SK]

Originally posted by: Legendary Nin
The point is,you won't be able to find it,even if you watch 28 hours of Naruto.I challenge you to find the quote,I title it the..

<u>Kakashi knows every jutsu challenge!!!!</u>

Here are the rules ..

1.You must tell us who subbed the episode of Naruto you found it in.
2.You must tell us the time in which it says that.
3.You must take a screen cap of it
4.It must not be a mis-translation
5.The screen cap can't be edited except for resizing,same with the episode.

Then,someone can verify if this true.If it is true,I will allow Ciber or any mod to BAN ME!!! That's how positive I am on this not being true.

im in im in!! how about we up to if chambers cant find the ep to back up his statements he gets banned. nvm guess you cant ban someone for being annoying.

[SofaKing]

Originally posted by: chambers
yeah i thin kpoint 3 is mure, because no one is disputing that he was scared (or at least iam not) he left because thats what he was trying to do the whole time.
point 2 your right it cant be backed up, except if you count circumstansial evidence fomr the stadium fight which doesnt actually state hes faster but certianly implies it, also the stadium is good in that IIRC it was counted as part of there competition right? so form that we can take it that not all the competitions are actually fights, but rather some are contests between the two.
point one, you cant really say it makes it more difficult as gai is used to it. but you still have to take into account the fact that its ok if he can see and copy the moves, but if he cant defend thats the key.

and again ill state that i dont think gai is the only one who would beat him, or that he would hammer him, just that hes most likley!

Even if Gai is used to it, it would still be less effective than looking at Itachi head on. And why wouldn't Itachi
be able to defend? The sharingan helps him see the attacks coming.

[chambers]

and as stated in the lee v gai fight its no use if you cant defend against them.

[Destiny]

Here's a simple solution... Itachi goes airborn somehow, kage bunshin no jutsu, comes down headfirst and suicide bombs Gai to smithereens. If Gai looks up, he's gonna see the eyes right back at him, taken to that hell pit, and be back in time to be blown up. Better yet, Itachi could just use a water jutsu while he's in the air

[Nara Tonymaru]

I personally think that if he openened gates 4-8 Gai might be able to beat Itachi, but other wise probably not, this is however speculation, and opinion, Itachi may still be able to hand his ass to him, but certainly not without a fight.

[Protoss]

Lee V Gai fight wtf when did that happen? LOL

Well I think your talking about Gaara vs Sasuke. When sasuke could see the sands movement but his body can't react fast enough so he still got hit, like against haku.

But Id say itachi is as fast as gai or faster (see how fast he got behind kakashi and kurenai?) so keeping up with gai should be no problem for him unlike sasuke who wasn't really that fast and is really dependent on his sharingan he barely even trains unlike naruto etc. Itachi looks like he trains a lot more then sasuke and other ninja's from what I can see of him so far.

[chambers]

lol
i meant the lee v sasuke
yeah but he only managed to get behind a water cloe of kakashi, and we dont know how strong kurenai is, apart form the fact specialises in genjutsu i think.

[Destiny]

The fact that he made a kage bunshin that got behind Kakashi that fast is pretty good. But Gai has similar speed, remember right after the Sasuke vs Lee battle he showd his speed; but that was in the eyes of genins, so who knows...

[originalkrn]

nvm... posted something and realized it was against rules. Sorry if anyone read it.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: chambers
lol
i meant the lee v sasuke
yeah but he only managed to get behind a water cloe of kakashi, and we dont know how strong kurenai is, apart form the fact specialises in genjutsu i think.

we know that kurenai is strong enough to become a jounin. if itachi's speed can't even be seen by a jounin, i'd say that he's god damn fast (faster than gai obviously [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]).

[SofaKing]

Answers to Itachi vs. Gai nonsense part 2

#4 The Lee vs. Sasuke fight shows what Itachi vs. Gai would be like

Sasuke was just plain weaker than Lee at the time. Just one month afterward, though, Sasuke had caught up
in terms of speed.

Point is, we know that Gai is on the same level as Kakashi, who is far weaker than Itachi. Lee, on the other
hand, was not at the same level as Sasuke (he had been a Gennin about a year longer than Sasuke). There's
no reason to think that the relative difference between Itachi and Gai is the same as that between Sasuke
and Lee, so using the Lee vs. Sasuke fight as a point of reference is absurd.

#5 But Gai can open up all 8 gates. That would give him enough power to beat Itachi.

Lee was faster than Garaa to begin with, and he still couldn't win even with 4 gates open. Eight gates would
be a larger improvement, but whereas Lee had an advantage, Gai would be coming from a disadvantage.

More importantly, primary loutus takes time to power up, and it's kind of obvious when you're doing it. The
effect also doesn't last for long, and you're finished when it's over. This means that one genjitsu from Itachi
(remember, Itachi's genjitsu counter was good enough to fool Kurenai, who is likely much more proficient
with genjitsu than Gai) could stall Gai long enough for the effect to wear off and for him to be finished. Or
Itachi could create shadow clones and hide among them. Or he could use any other of the hundreds of
techniques that he probably knows to buy 30 seconds of time. After that, Gai's finished.

[Lenas]

Itachi would win. Period. Valid reasons are all over this post.

[Mr Latency]

Originally posted by: HimizujinEternia
Spoiler!

Thank you very much for that..

Another forum that I cant trust to not contain spoilers, I think ill just give up. I have only read 2 threads in this forum and it seems something very key to the story has been ruined already, even if it was hinted at in the anime it was still one of the few things not to be ruined for me. Christ if your someone who has read the manga you have a forum to yourselves to post in, dont post manga ruiners in the sodding anime section.