Nightwish is not gothic in the least. And you are only seeing it as "hype" because they more recently made it big in the US, before, when they were comparatively smaller, nobody really saw them as a hyped up band (the american effect yay!). :S

As for new Dissection, well, never liked the band that much anyway. Jon's private life doesn't concern me as long as the music is good, and it was only so-so in my eyes. Jon's younger brother Emil also has a band - Deathstars - which is on the move upwards (I just love it when bands you like suddenly for some reason gets a big break, in the form of a hit or something, and then everybody worships them - fucking posers). That band may be considered overblown but hey, they are still pretty good. I think I recommended them earlier in the thread..