Episode 82 Discussion *SPOILERS*

[LostAngel]

well I think Kakashi thought maybe that jutsu wouldn't work on him because of his sharingon eye. But Itachi completely saw through it. Now on Gais part... he said to look at his feet.... thats not looking into the eyes so probably be able to avoid some of the jutsu. I think because of Gais speed and specialities he would put up a better fight than Kakashi.

One thing I thought was stupid was when Kurenai openingly did her jutsu right in front of Itachi with his sharingon on knowing that he can copy and counter what she does. (I know that was from 81)

Oh and whoever said earlier that Sharingon see into the future (to lazy to see who it was) it cant.... and as long as they dont look into the eyes of the person with sharingon they can avoid some of the jutsu like Zabuza said when fighting Kakashi. Keeping distance and no eye contact.

I wanted to see Gai fight Itachi so badly just to see what he could do. They never really show Gai go all out and fight and I loved watching Lee fight and I know Gai is way better than him.. just has to be... I want a good fight with Gai!!!! I would also like to see Anko get into a freaking cool ass Fight!!

[Assertn]

Originally posted by: Hokage-IV

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
yeah that is true.....not only is itachi's jutsus uber fast....but im sure there's no amount of physical speed thats greater than what he can see with the sharingan

chambers: you dont seem to grasp the true difference in ranks in the naruto world......
if a jounin can kill like 10 chuunins like it was nothing, and a high level jounin can kill 10 anbus like it was nothing, and a chuunin can make most genins wet their pants, then clearly a sanin or a kage would be something insane

paper rock scissors do work, seeing as that naruto lost to lee, gaara lost to naruto, and lee lost to gaara
but only among characters within their respective ranks.....otherwise its a slaughter

V RESPONSE TO BELOW: i agree with you, except you dont seem to catch what we are referring to with the "paper rock scissors" concept......we arent saying that winning in a battle is like winning in a game of "paper rock scissors", we're saying that winning in a battle is determined by which of the 3 YOU are and which of the 3 the ENEMY is

True difference ranks? lol yes i agree there is ranks in naruto world but i dont know about true difference in ranks... and also rock , scissors and paper also applies to naruto world. Beyond that ,referring to the fan base, it is about perception.

well im glad you agree with me

if you dont understand the true difference in the ranks......watch one of the dozens of episodes where a chuunin got owned by a jounin
in fact you'd have to have missed about half of the entire series to not know what im referring to

[DrunkPotHead]

I don't understand why Gai can't pwn Itachi if he opens all eight gates. Think about it, it has been said (about Rock Lee, which is much weaker than Gai) that if he opens all 8 gates, he becomes temporarily stronger than hokage. I bet if Gai opens all 8 gates, he could own Itachi. And sacrificing Gai to own Itachi seems like a very good trade-off.

[hoob]

How dare you say such a thing???? Sacrifice Gai?? For any reason? Can you sacrifice the sun? Can you sacrifice the moon? NO! Such is Gai..

[Javelin]

if you dont understand the true difference in the ranks......watch one of the dozens of episodes where a chuunin got owned by a jounin
in fact you'd have to have missed about half of the entire series to not know what im referring to

Yet Naruto owned whatshisname in ep 1, who was chuunin. Naruto wasn't even at genin rank at that time.

And in ep 4 or 5, Sasuke outclassed 2 chuunin with ease. I don't think the ranks are that much an indication of fighting ability.

[SK]

Originally posted by: Outtawack311
I am curious about something. Gai said there was another way to fight against sharingan users but he wasnt going to go into it now. I wonder if there is a type of jutsu or ability you can gain that helps defend you against sharingan.
Also, Kakashi wasnt in the jutsu for 70+ hours Itachi let him out after 1 second of real time to show how much can be done in that little of time. He counts down one second in the genjutsu then lets him go.

uh...no you misunderstood the episode, Kakashi was tortured for 72 hours, but in real time it was only a moment. i dont think gai could beat itachi even with all gates open, since oro was as strong as hokage, and itachi is stronger than oro, then add the sharingan, and gai is no match for itachi either.

[Legendary Nin]

It's not known if Gai can open up all the gates.Some of you still don't understand the ranking.Mizuki was a nobody,those two chuunins (Demon brothers right?) were killed by Kakashi.

[CUE]

Originally posted by: DrunkPotHead
I don't understand why Gai can't pwn Itachi if he opens all eight gates. Think about it, it has been said (about Rock Lee, which is much weaker than Gai) that if he opens all 8 gates, he becomes temporarily stronger than hokage. I bet if Gai opens all 8 gates, he could own Itachi. And sacrificing Gai to own Itachi seems like a very good trade-off.

Even if gai could open all 8 gates, he still probably wouldn't be able to kill Itachi. Since it was said that whomever opens all 8 gates has more power than a hokage then dies, it's not said how long he could last before he dies.

I mean.. Lee opened 5 gates and kicked gaara's ass for about 40 seconds then essentially passed out. The same would probably happen with gai, only he'd just die.

[Assertn]

Originally posted by: Javelin

if you dont understand the true difference in the ranks......watch one of the dozens of episodes where a chuunin got owned by a jounin
in fact you'd have to have missed about half of the entire series to not know what im referring to

Yet Naruto owned whatshisname in ep 1, who was chuunin. Naruto wasn't even at genin rank at that time.

And in ep 4 or 5, Sasuke outclassed 2 chuunin with ease. I don't think the ranks are that much an indication of fighting ability.

thats why i said MOST genins......
there seems to be a recurring theme in the series that if you possess the powers of one of the demon creatures, then you can sorta stand a chance against people a rank above you

and outclassing is different than beating.......
shikamaru outclassed those chuunin who were chasing after them when they left the main matches, but that doesnt mean he could beat them on his own though

[Gods_Son]

Gai opening all 8 gates and just dying would be funny, but completely pointless. The person who opens all the gates is supposed to become nearly invincible for the short while that they're alive. People called Gaara's victory over Lee by using the gourd lame, doing a sacrifice and not killing your opponent would be even worse. Gai won't defeat Itachi though, because that has been Sasuke's job all along.

[z0diac]

I just noticed that Kisame is actually in the opening. when the opening starts you see him as his shadow lift up his sword and swing at us and the the name Naruto is written with his sword in the background, gj me for seeing it ^^

[SilentSnake]

Originally posted by: z0diac
I just noticed that Kisame is actually in the opening. when the opening starts you see him as his shadow lift up his sword and swing at us and the the name Naruto is written with his sword in the background, gj me for seeing it ^^

hmm... i've noticed that too, week ago [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

I suppose we are not the only ones... furthermore... I'm SURE we are not the only ones...

[LostAngel]

I am curious if anyone has notice how Itachi is with Kakashi. When Kisame was going to fight him he said if he hurt him he wouldn't be forgiven. Then when he did the torture thing on him Kakashi said himself he could of killed him easily but didn't. Not until Kakashi mentioned the Clan and Naruto did he say kill them all. I wonder if he has a bit of a soft spot for Kakashi.

[Shin_Naruto]

Originally posted by: hoob
How dare you say such a thing???? Sacrifice Gai?? For any reason? Can you sacrifice the sun? Can you sacrifice the moon? NO! Such is Gai..

LOL... BRILLIANT!

[Assertn]

Originally posted by: LostAngel
I am curious if anyone has notice how Itachi is with Kakashi. When Kisame was going to fight him he said if he hurt him he wouldn't be forgiven. Then when he did the torture thing on him Kakashi said himself he could of killed him easily but didn't. Not until Kakashi mentioned the Clan and Naruto did he say kill them all. I wonder if he has a bit of a soft spot for Kakashi.

nope......that was most likely S-O messing things up again

itachi didnt want kisame to bother fighting cause KISAME would end up getting hurt

[Assertn]

anyone notice that sasuke for some reason had his sharingan on when he was standing in front of that little shrine thingy?
i know it makes for a good transition between him and his brother, but it still seems kinda out of place for him to be using it while he's just standing there in his basement

[Hinata-chan]

i believe it is meant to show that much like naruto kyubi - sasuke's sharingan is drawn out by emotion...also it could be respect for the uchiha grave - showing the bloodline limit to his ancestors to show he is worthy and such

he is trying to excel with teh sharingan - it seems as if using it and being able to activate it (in sasuke's caase ) at will always helps

i wish he would freaking get 3 comma's already lol

[DarthEnderX]

For what it's worth, I agree with chambers and hokagi IV, that it's not simply a matter of "power levels". While a persons power is important, their fighting style can more than make up for the difference if one is weaker. The "Rock, Paper Scissors" metaphore fits perfectly.

And while you might say "Oh that only applies to people on the same level" you can't even say that when you figure that there are people who are like Gaara that are Genin "level" that could easily defeat most Chuunin.

The point is, you never know who is capable of defeating who, for all we know, Itachi could be really weak against Taijitsu. Granted, its unlikely, but until the situation actually comes up, we won't have any way of being sure.

And like someone mentions, Gai could always do something like open up all 8 Gates and defeat Itachi that way.


As far as the episode goes, its great. I was surprised to find out that Itachi's organization is after the nine-tails. Makes me wonder if maybe there is another pair of that group thats going to go after Gaara.

[chambers]

of course we dont know thaty Gai CAN open all 8 gates, and neither does he. if he did hed be dead!

[TheAwesomeChow]

it's often said that a fighter can look at a man's feet and tell what he is going to do with his hands. Thus in Kendo the big pants were created to hide the movement of one's feet because it was very much indicative of the movement of his hands.