He could have killed them all in their sleep.
One more quesiton. does anyone know if Obito has a meaning in Japanese? Everyone thinks he's a Uchiha, but is it based on anything besides Kakashi probably got his sharingan from his teammate...the guy with the goggles?
Kakashi's team seens a bit like Naruto's, and the goggles on the other guy just reminds me of Naruto before he got his forehead protector
i don't think people truly understand how strong itachi really is. i truly believe that he is 2nd to last bad guy that we will be introduced to, if not, the final bad guy. i'm pretty sure everyone would agree that orochimaru is an EXTREMELY powerful ninja. but kishimoto made it seem as if itachi is even stronger than orochimaru by making orochimaru fear him. that part alone makes me believe that itachi is too many levels above bad guy before him for the storyline to bring in another, even stronger bad guy. i'm not sure if everyone can fully understand what i mean by that but i'm just trying to get at the fact that if another stronger baddy was introduced, then the story would go on for WAY too long, and i don't think the story has enough depth for that amount of longevity. there is no way for me or anyone else to explain it here in more detail in the anime forum without spoiling every other sentence. even if you were to read an explanation and read the manga up to where it is (ch 214), you probably still won't be able to grasp itachi's overall strength.
i'm probably gonna go put up a detailed explanation on my site later... but be warned, it'll contain many spoilers. however, i think it's going to be a real good reading for those who like to know more about what others think.
you guys say that itachi uses the sharingan all the time? just cause he has it on all the time doesnt mean he's more dependent on it than kakashi is......
in fact they made no reference whatsoever in him using his sharingan when he was fighting kakashi, except for that mange sharingan thing he did at the end, and he obviously had the upper hand even without using that move
there's a common practice in the entertainment business to not openly state details that the audience is expected to assume based on the rest of the story details. For example, you can tell a person's status and power just by the way other people treat them. If everyone was all acknowledging gai as he walks down the streets and admire him for his insane skills, then we could assume he's on a level way above that of any of the other konoha ninjas. But instead people tend to acknowledge jiraiya, kakashi, and anyone from the uchiha clan....
therefore one could use these hints to figure out that "hey, these people MUST be pretty strong".....nobody really acknowledges gai, however....in fact even kakashi kinda ignores him half the time. Sure gai is probably strong, but just because we havent seen him lose yet doesnt mean that he's invincible.....gai even knows this himself, which is why he wanted asume to back him up and try to hold them until reinforcements arrive
in fact, the reference of gai and kakashi being nearly tied in wins/losses is supposed to hint to the audience that they are on the same level....and an even BIGGER hint about a potentially good fight (even bigger than gai pointing out a flaw in the sharingan, which i'd like to add doesnt actually put gai in any sort of advantage, in fact it decreases his vision of the target....it just prevents him from being vulnerable to the most powerful moves of the sharingan)...and that is sasuke vs itachi.....i think the whole "only another sharingan user from my clan can beat me" line is a good example of foreshadowing
EDIT: Thanks Mut@t@, i try to remind people that Naruto is, in fact, a tv show....and so there are some guidelines that its supposed to follow because of that [img]i/expressions/beer.gif[/img]
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
wow. this post right here should be sticky'd. preach on brotha.Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
you guys say that itachi uses the sharingan all the time? just cause he has it on all the time doesnt mean he's more dependent on it than kakashi is......
in fact they made no reference whatsoever in him using his sharingan when he was fighting kakashi, except for that mange sharingan thing he did at the end, and he obviously had the upper hand even without using that move
there's a common practice in the entertainment business to not openly state details that the audience is expected to assume based on the rest of the story details. For example, you can tell a person's status and power just by the way other people treat them. If everyone was all acknowledging gai as he walks down the streets and admire him for his insane skills, then we could assume he's on a level way above that of any of the other konoha ninjas. But instead people tend to acknowledge jiraiya, kakashi, and anyone from the uchiha clan....
therefore one could use these hints to figure out that "hey, these people MUST be pretty strong".....nobody really acknowledges gai, however....in fact even kakashi kinda ignores him half the time. Sure gai is probably strong, but just because we havent seen him lose yet doesnt mean that he's invincible.....gai even knows this himself, which is why he wanted asume to back him up and try to hold them until reinforcements arrive
in fact, the reference of gai and kakashi being nearly tied in wins/losses is supposed to hint to the audience that they are on the same level....and an even BIGGER hint about a potentially good fight (even bigger than gai pointing out a flaw in the sharingan, which i'd like to add doesnt actually put gai in any sort of advantage, in fact it decreases his vision of the target....it just prevents him from being vulnerable to the most powerful moves of the sharingan)...and that is sasuke vs itachi.....i think the whole "only another sharingan user from my clan can beat me" line is a good example of foreshadowing
Um, if we didn't do that, we wouldn't need a forum, as its pretty much the only thing to do here. You can only talk about a 20 minute long episode once a week for so long before the discussion roams into what COULD happen rather than what did.now - arguing over a hypothetical situation is absolutely worthless
Otherwise, the conversations would just die out, quick, and then...what would we need to come here for?
I'd be shocked if Itachi was the final villain of the series .. as a matter of fact (not a spoiler - just an opinion..) Itachi seems both weaker and more sympathetic in the anime compared to the manga. Itachi also has something else holding him back, and that is the 'zero-personality-no-jutsu' technique he has .. it's like he works as hard as he possibly can to be absolutely and completely boring. Hard for someone so utterly devoid of any memorable personality to be credible and effective as a villain. Kisame, while probably many times weaker than Itachi, at least is interesting to watch ..
Another problem with the 'Itachi-as-last-villain' theory, is that Kishimoto has Sasuke dialed up as the obvious protagonist character to take him down .. which wouldn't work for a couple of reasons ..
(1)- It will take Sasuke QUITE some time to get strong enough to even stand against someone the likes of Itachi .. maybe a hundred anime episodes at the minimum? All this while, it's pretty likely that we would see a new primary villain appear to replace Orochimaru ..
(2)- Having the main villain of the entire series being defeated by a secondary character (and a one-dimensional one, at that) .. would be staggeringly anticlimatic.
(3)- I don't want to get into anything from the Manga, but Itachi has already started a cycle of failure .. verbally dismissing the encounter as 'nonsense', but retreating nonetheless .. hardly the style of an ultimate villain.
(4)- Udon pwns Itachi any day of the week [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Well iam not so sure that Naruto will be th eone to save the day at the end of the series, i mean yeah sure thats the traditional way and its what everyone expects because the anime is called naruto. but the best films dont have the most expected endings. its stated that naruto isnt the kinds of guy thats at the centre of the story (thats bad paraphrasing however). now while this may have been to further his performance in the chuunin exam we cant be sure, it could be a direct hint that infact he WONT be the main character come the end show. perhpas he is a supporting role character, it is after all what his entire character is about, helping the people he cares for, and it wouldnt be too far fetch to assume he dies for this cause (read that as saving NOT killing somone to save the day).
also about the villans, i dont think this will be anywhere near the last villain, as we have ye tot be introduced to the othe rmemebers of itachis orginization. there has been nothign mentioned of the sand's intent on revenge and what consequences it could bring about ( i mean on oro not on konoha), we still have to be introduced to the other villages as well. and if you DO adhere strictly to the view that nartuto is the hero and he will beat everyone and he will become the hokage (as i think some people here will be) and unwilling to listen to alternate theorys then i still think he is a LONG way off of becomeing hokage, unless of course if everyone has a huge war wiht the organization and they all die except for naruto!
Lol yeah of course it's a long way off, but unless someone alters the universe ..
Naruto will eventually become Hokage ..
Sasuke will eventually avenge his family ..
Sakura will eventually become useful ..
LOL well maybe that last one is stretching it a bit [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] I'd still bet the odds are pretty high on learning something powerful before the series is over with .. though I couldn't possibly care less, she has been so 'blah' for so long. At least she's not repeating 'Sasuke-kun' over and over quite as much as she used to [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
I bet sakura's a genius.
Yea that seems like a total far stretch but remember shes got that two mind thing as we've seen againts Ino.
That thing took control temporarily and she looked all pyscho. I'm guessin shes got some super power or somethin. Maybe that sasuke lackey will actually become something useful. If not I predict in the end of the series she'll just become a teacher like Iruka sensei
Also I predict somehow that kyugi or whatever that nine tailed fox is called will someone get out of naruto and naruto will have to fight him. Yet somehow naruto will kick its ass and win.
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