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    i supposes thats all right IRL but you cant look at someones feet and tell what justu they are going to do, thats the only real thing i think Itachi has on Gai, the speed of Itachi's techniques would be a big probelm for Gai as he wouldnt know untill the very last instant what was going to happen.

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    Goooo Kisame! Zabuza wasn't killed by kakashi. Also I predict this episode has the hot chick as a member of that organization trying to capture nartuo. No doubt why else would some extremely hot chick fall for Jir. Hes an old pervert!

    Lets face it shes gotta be some kind of trap.

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    Episode 82 Discussion *SPOILERS*

    Originally posted by: DarthEnder
    For what it's worth, I agree with chambers and hokagi IV, that it's not simply a matter of "power levels". While a persons power is important, their fighting style can more than make up for the difference if one is weaker. The "Rock, Paper Scissors" metaphore fits perfectly.

    And while you might say "Oh that only applies to people on the same level" you can't even say that when you figure that there are people who are like Gaara that are Genin "level" that could easily defeat most Chuunin.
    you guys keep bringing naruto and gaara up, but as i mentioned before....

    "there seems to be a recurring theme in the series that if you possess the powers of one of the demon creatures, then you can sorta stand a chance against people a rank above you"

    but can you think of anyone besides naruto and gaara that has actually defeated higher ranked ninjas by themselves?
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    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    Originally posted by: DarthEnder
    For what it's worth, I agree with chambers and hokagi IV, that it's not simply a matter of "power levels". While a persons power is important, their fighting style can more than make up for the difference if one is weaker. The "Rock, Paper Scissors" metaphore fits perfectly.

    And while you might say "Oh that only applies to people on the same level" you can't even say that when you figure that there are people who are like Gaara that are Genin "level" that could easily defeat most Chuunin.
    you guys keep bringing naruto and gaara up, but as i mentioned before....

    "there seems to be a recurring theme in the series that if you possess the powers of one of the demon creatures, then you can sorta stand a chance against people a rank above you"

    but can you think of anyone besides naruto and gaara that has actually defeated higher ranked ninjas by themselves?
    was that suppose to be a tough question? ....

    Neji beating one of sound four.. Chouji beating one of the sound four...


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    or even kabuto beating the ANBU SQUAD!
    not to mention the fact that there isnt that many fights with weaker rank vs stronger rank in the series anyway. i think if you look at it % wise you will see that the weaker rank win!

    i dont think the sound ninjas were higher either.

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    you're giving the anbu squad too much credit.....they tend to consist mostly of chuunin and lower level jounins

    since kabuto is at the same level as kakashi, it was expected that he could defeat those anbu guys

    and weaker vs stronger fights do occur a decent # of times in the series, but usually it requires a strength in numbers for the weaker guys just to avoid being completely slaughtered by the stronger guys, or their jounin sensei to come in and save the day
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    getting back to gai...

    Gai talked about looking at Itachi's feet while fighting him. For those not too familiar in the world of boxing, this is a principal used by boxers too not only determine opponent movement, but also strength. If a fighter looks weak in the knees, then the boxer can throw the big punch. I know, its not real, please bare with me here.

    And with Gai opening 8 gates to own Itachi, there's always that possibility that Itachi can narrowly escape, basically allowing Gai to kill himself. There's a reason the technique is so rarely used.

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    actually AF i dont care wahat you say in terms of REAL rank kabuto is NOT the same as kakashi. so its still stands.

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    in terms of fighting ability, kabuto is about the same as kakashi. orochimaru freaking said so. but obviously the official ranks are different.
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    yes, and seing as tho its official ranks we are tlkaing about then i guess iam right?
    (you dont have to answer that)

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    unnofficial ranking vs official ranking is nothing more than bragging rights

    kabuto purposely stayed as a genin so he could spy for orochimaru in the exams
    do you think that by quitting the exams on purpose and preventing himself from becoming chuunin actually makes him weaker than those who DID become chuunin?
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    guys, there's no way in hell Gai could ever touch Itachi. the guy killed the entire uchiha clan at the age of 13. also, did you see how fast he was using his techniques against kakashi? and i'm sure he was just toying with him. the guy is unstoppable. plus, even if Gai just looked at his feet, he would not be able to see Itachi's hand seals, if that's even possible anyways. Gai would get beaten faster than Kakashi was.

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    Episode 82 Discussion *SPOILERS*

    Originally posted by: Hokage-IV
    Neji beating one of sound four.. Chouji beating one of the sound four...
    dude wtf is wrong with you. that never happened...
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    wow theres so many Gai fanboys! i didnt even know, i always thought he was goofy like lee.

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    my bad... my apology

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    way to go lololol

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    Kabuto is ranked as Genin, but his skill is that of a Jounin. Him, Kakashi, and Gai are all at about the same level. Gai is being overestimated by a lot of people, he probably wouldn't do that much better than Kakashi, if he faced Itachi. Hokage IV, try editing your post instead of just apologizing.

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    Episode 82 Discussion *SPOILERS*

    Originally posted by: gaaralovessand
    getting back to gai...

    Gai talked about looking at Itachi's feet while fighting him. For those not too familiar in the world of boxing, this is a principal used by boxers too not only determine opponent movement, but also strength. If a fighter looks weak in the knees, then the boxer can throw the big punch. I know, its not real, please bare with me here.

    And with Gai opening 8 gates to own Itachi, there's always that possibility that Itachi can narrowly escape, basically allowing Gai to kill himself. There's a reason the technique is so rarely used.
    Also, during the epi, Gai explained that by looking at a person's feet, you can predict their movements without looking at their arms. Since Gai is a taijutsu specialist (i think, like lee) i think he can tell it better than other ninjas

    guys, there's no way in hell Gai could ever touch Itachi. the guy killed the entire uchiha clan at the age of 13. also, did you see how fast he was using his techniques against kakashi? and i'm sure he was just toying with him. the guy is unstoppable. plus, even if Gai just looked at his feet, he would not be able to see Itachi's hand seals, if that's even possible anyways. Gai would get beaten faster than Kakashi was.
    Itachi became ANBU leader at 13 [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] i still dont know what age he was when he killed his clan.

    Anyways, im sure Gai represents some threat to itachi, did he not warn Kisame not to underestimate him?


    About Kisame, i have this strange feeling that he'll be majorly PWNed by someone later on in Naruto. I dunno why, perhaps its that "I'm so good because i have the most l33t ninja in the world as my partner" feeling you get from him [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img].
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    Episode 82 Discussion *SPOILERS*

    Originally posted by: DeathscytheVII
    Originally posted by: gaaralovessand
    getting back to gai...

    Gai talked about looking at Itachi's feet while fighting him. For those not too familiar in the world of boxing, this is a principal used by boxers too not only determine opponent movement, but also strength. If a fighter looks weak in the knees, then the boxer can throw the big punch. I know, its not real, please bare with me here.

    And with Gai opening 8 gates to own Itachi, there's always that possibility that Itachi can narrowly escape, basically allowing Gai to kill himself. There's a reason the technique is so rarely used.
    Also, during the epi, Gai explained that by looking at a person's feet, you can predict their movements without looking at their arms. Since Gai is a taijutsu specialist (i think, like lee) i think he can tell it better than other ninjas

    guys, there's no way in hell Gai could ever touch Itachi. the guy killed the entire uchiha clan at the age of 13. also, did you see how fast he was using his techniques against kakashi? and i'm sure he was just toying with him. the guy is unstoppable. plus, even if Gai just looked at his feet, he would not be able to see Itachi's hand seals, if that's even possible anyways. Gai would get beaten faster than Kakashi was.
    Itachi became ANBU leader at 13 [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] i still dont know what age he was when he killed his clan.

    Anyways, im sure Gai represents some threat to itachi, did he not warn Kisame not to underestimate him?


    About Kisame, i have this strange feeling that he'll be majorly PWNed by someone later on in Naruto. I dunno why, perhaps its that "I'm so good because i have the most l33t ninja in the world as my partner" feeling you get from him [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img].
    EDIT: shit, nm. the anime hasn't caught up to that point in manga i was refering from.
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    i'd assume he was an ANBU captain BEFORE killing his clan though
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