There are more than 3 kages .. because there are more than 3 villages with kages. There are not more than 3 sannin, because the definition of sannin is 3 ninjas. Jiraiya and Tsunade both had left Konoha, so I also do not believe that the sannin necessarily have to be from Konoha, that was just the way it turned out. But yes, there are more living sannin than there are hokages [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Even at Hokage old age I don't think Oro was a match for him considering he had to use the 1st and 2nd to get some kind of advantage and still came out of the battle which was for him a fate worst then death. Anyway aren't there 10kages total(5 great villages/5 small villages) but only 4 that we know of(Hokage, Kazekage,Mizukage,Oro). I remember the map showing 10symbols.
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Not to interfere in your debate on the ninja ranks but... wasn't this topic about Naruto's ninja level?
Other than that i believe Krbadass is right.... simply because he pwns people with his sig bwhahahahahaha (and I have observed that he has cleared up many questions older posts.)
The topic was never about Naruto specifically, try reading the first post for an answer. With Ninja ranking, Sannin are about the same as Kage, then Jounin, Anbu/Hunter, Chunnin, Genin, and Academy Students. There are always exceptions in each group, but in general, that seems right.
1. Kage/Sannin
2. Jounin/Select Anbu
3. Anbu
4. Chuunin
5. Genin
6. Academy Students
7. Drop-outs
8. Butterflies
9. Rabbits
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83293. dirt
83294. Sakura
ANBU is not a ranking system but a class available to those who are qualified.
Yes, Kakashi and Kabuto are both stronger than most ANBU.
Itachi could kick Kabuto's ass, and we'll find out about Kakashi, because no spoilers. Itachi could kick most jounins ass easily, even orichimaru.. and.. Look at the ending (the preview) of ep 81.
Itachi became the leader of an ANBU squad at age 13.
There are ANBU who are stronger then other anbu, just like there are Jounin who are stronger then other jounin, genin who are stronger then other genin.
For instance, Neji, a genin, could kick Sakura's ass, also a genin.
Stereotyping a class is a mistake, and thinking that all who belong to a particular class/group/rank are the same in power and ability, is an even bigger mistake.
Furthermore, Orichimaru did not kill the 3rd, the 3rd willingly performed a technique that he was fully aware would take his own life.
orochimaru actually did kill the 3rd. obviously he didn't do it himself directly, but he caused the 3rd to do a technique that took his own life. basically orochimaru forced death upon the 3rd. it shouldn't matter whether the death was involuntary or voluntary, the 3rd died because of orochimaru.
agreed... Orochimaru put the 3rd Hokage in a position where he had no choice but to use the sealing technique. Its used when up against people stronger than you.. like the 4th hokage against Kyuubi.
Third Hokage vs. Orochimaru when the 3rd Hokage was in his prime... I would definitely like to see that fight [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
you can rank the levels of ninja in Naruto, but it just isnt a perfect template for determining which ninjas are best.
(please bare with me here)
i.e. Naruto could be the strongest person in Konoha, but never become even a Chunnin, only because he doesnt meet the full requirements of a Chunnin. Just because you cant lead teams into battle doesnt mean you are a bad fighter.
ok, so if..
Orochimaru = or > 3rd hokage and Jiraiya can = Hokage.
and Jiraiya Orochimaru and Tsunade are the same
but Itachi is stronger then Orochimaru that makes.
1. Itachi higher lvl then Hokage?
o_O?
hokage > sannin. if the 3rd had been in his youth he woulda wiped the floor with oros ass. altho oro could kill kazekage, but thats cos hes crap
I think most of you are confusing occupations, rankings and general names.
Sannin = Collective reference to Orochimaru, Jiraiya and Tsunade, due to their achievements. Its not a rank.
ANBU = Comprised of jounins and chunnins. Its more of an occupation as opposed to a rank.
Hence, I think the ranking order should be:
(Ho)Kage
Jounin
-> Special Jounin (Not much information on these, but I'm assuming they're a cut below normal jounins)
Chuunin
Gennin
->Student (doesnt really count)
Also consider that the ranks are more of a guideline as to the capabilities of a particular ninja as opposed to a hard and fast rule.
Hence, if we add the information we would get this: The Sannin are presumeably all jounin rank. They just happen to be far stronger than the average jounin - indeed you could argue that theyre probably stronger than some Kages.
******* - MINOR SPOILER - *******
Itachi is apparently a chunnin. However that doesnt change the fact he is the strongest character we've encountered so far (In the anime).
******* - END OF SPOILER - *******
So, if I were to put together a list with both ranks and people/occupations, on the basis of their power it would look something like:
Kage | -> Sannin, Itachi
Jounin
Special Jounin | -> ANBU
Chuunin
Gennin
Note: the "| ->" indicates that the following is NOT a rank.
***minor spoiler** *
******* - MINOR SPOILER - *******
Itachi is apparently a chunnin. However that doesnt change the fact he is the strongest character we've encountered so far (In the anime).
******* - END OF SPOILER - *******
I thought Kakashi said that he was an ANBU leader at the age of 13 in ep 82??
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=D
what doesnt seem to make since is that ANBU's job is to protect the village and the Hokage, which makes me think they *should* be the strongest ninja in the village, but theyre apparently not. also sannin should be included as a rank in itself given to oro, tsunade, and jiraiya. also itachi is a freak of nature.
1.Hokage
2.Sannin/Itachi
3.Jounin/ANBU
4.Chunnin
5.Genin
6.Students
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