I'm Starting To Think That Itachi

[Aeon]

Going into ep81, I was expecting Itachi to be some kind of sedistic killing machine like Oro. While watching the episode some thing's stood out.

Number 1 was the fact that Oro admitted that Itachi was stronger then and wanted to get rid of those from his clan. This made me think since no one has proof that Itachi destroyed his clan that Oro could have done it out of feer that the whole Clan would become stronger then him. I'm guess the reason why Itachi took the blame was because he wanted Sauske to not be dependant on him for protection and to make it his goal to kill him.

Point 2 was the timing that Itachi chose to show up, it seem's more like he came to help defend Leaf rather then go in and kill everyone, when he noticed that the fighting had stopped he decided to get something to eat and be on his way.

Point 3 is how nice he is, if he wanted to he could have killed the guard outside the entrance to Leaf. Judging by the kick he gave Kuranai it seem's like he's holding back and trying to leave rather then trying to kill her.

So do you think everything we've been led to believe about Itachi is the truth?

[El Duende]

Somewhere in the chapter they say they were looking for something... so they are not just passing by

[Stoopider]

I think your theory might be flawed. No doubt that he is freaking powerful.

But because he's super, doesn't mean he can take on the whole village. And if he's honestly coming to help the village, he would have surrendered to the Jounin's.

Probably he's here for a different motive. Maybe to check on Sasuke. He still is his ototo

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

Itachi is psycho. A bishie gone bad, very bad. And his baby brother is going the same way. Runs in the family.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: Aeon
Going into ep81, I was expecting Itachi to be some kind of sedistic killing machine like Oro. While watching the episode some thing's stood out.

Number 1 was the fact that Oro admitted that Itachi was stronger then and wanted to get rid of those from his clan. This made me think since no one has proof that Itachi destroyed his clan that Oro could have done it out of feer that the whole Clan would become stronger then him. I'm guess the reason why Itachi took the blame was because he wanted Sauske to not be dependant on him for protection and to make it his goal to kill him.

it is clear that Itachi killed his whole clan and family. also, not everyone in the uchiha family is born with sharingan, only a few lucky ones are.

Point 2 was the timing that Itachi chose to show up, it seem's more like he came to help defend Leaf rather then go in and kill everyone, when he noticed that the fighting had stopped he decided to get something to eat and be on his way.

itachi actually arrived when everything had settled down. we know this because the episode shows people rebuilding. and we don't know his true motive for coming back to the leaf.

Point 3 is how nice he is, if he wanted to he could have killed the guard outside the entrance to Leaf. Judging by the kick he gave Kuranai it seem's like he's holding back and trying to leave rather then trying to kill her.

well, itachi said it himself, he doesn't want to be so flashy (well, he told kisame not to be like that but you get the point). killing someone would just alert everyone that there is a new threat. and as for the kick, kurenai is still a jounin. as strong as itachi is, he can't everyone in like 2 seconds.

[DarthEnderX]

I was actually beginning to wonder if Itachi wiped out his clan just to keep Orochimaru or anyone else from getting the Sharingan.

And maybe Kakashi was the catalyst. If Kakashi stole the Sharingan, Itachi may have felt it to be a threat, that others might also take it.

[CapsuleCorpJX]

Originally posted by: DarthEnder
I was actually beginning to wonder if Itachi wiped out his clan just to keep Orochimaru or anyone else from getting the Sharingan.

And maybe Kakashi was the catalyst. If Kakashi stole the Sharingan, Itachi may have felt it to be a threat, that others might also take it.

Well Itachi did a pretty shitty job. Sasuke is still alive. I mean if he is stronger than Oro, he should have just killed Oro himself. He probably doesn't know about Oro's mind transfer Jutsu, or he would have killed Sasuke.

He killed his family as a measuring stick, its pretty clear. He left Sasuke alive so he'd have another measuring stick later on.

[jing]

mutata pretty much proved itachi not innocent.
why kill the guard? because if you kill the guard, then the whole town will know invaders came in. so why not just make him fall asleep.
No it isn't more like he came to help the Leaf, i don't think anyone saw that coming.
just pay attention to kisame and itachi's conversation, and you will find out that itachi will care jack about the leaf.

[Aeon]

I can understand the not wanting to help Leaf part but it's been proven with Kabuto killing the Anbu that were guarding Sauske, Oro killing the 3 genins, Oro killing Kazakage, Kabuto killing the Anbu to steal his clothes and Baki killing Hayate that you can kill somebody in leaf without causing a commotion. So they would have never known that he was there.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: Aeon
I can understand the not wanting to help Leaf part but it's been proven with Kabuto killing the Anbu that were guarding Sauske, Oro killing the 3 genins, Oro killing Kazakage, Kabuto killing the Anbu to steal his clothes and Baki killing Hayate that you can kill somebody in leaf without causing a commotion. So they would have never known that he was there.

that actually didn't prove anything because all, if not most, ninjas were alerted that orochimaru and crew were planning something against konoha and the hokage didn't want to get everyone all crazy about it. that's why all those killings went unnoticed by the citizens/public.

[SK]

i think itachi is psycho, but one of those stay cool do what you gotta do kind. also we do know it was itachi who killed the uchiha clan, since sasuke has memories of it. maybe he did it so he would be one of the few with the sharingan, but to be able to kill your whole clan and family you gotta be psychotic. i think itachi is one of those im the strongest guy around, dont really have anything to do, dont care, guess ill just keep being the strongest guy around.

[Gods_Son]

Itachi didn't come to save the leaf, he could care less about Konoha. It's possible that he took the blame for the clan killing so that he could help Sasuke become stronger, but that's unclear at this point. He's not nice, he's just not interested in causing a commotion. Itachi just doesn't kill or get invovled with people that he doesn't have to.

[The_Fourth]

Mutata explained preety much everything, Itachi isnt innocent.

[Knives122]

Originally posted by: KonohamaruCorps
Itachi just doesn't kill or get invovled with people that he doesn't have to.

Yeah if you think about it he seems alot like Toguro(the big one) he wouldnt do anything without a solid reason, and didnt really hate or like anyone including his older(but smaller)brother.

Now it could've been Oro who killed the Uchiha clan b/c of the fact that he feared them, but it is unclear at this point whether he did it or not

[SK]

uh...what about Sasuke's memories of seeing Itachi wipe out his clan and family.

[Rek]

Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
uh...what about Sasuke's memories of seeing Itachi wipe out his clan and family.

HEY! GUESS WHAT? One of Oro's most used skill is the one where he CHANGES FACES! I think its very well possible that Oro wanted Itachi for his new body, but Itachi wasn't feeling it, so Oro went for his little brother, he turns into Itachi, kills all the Sharingan toting Uchiha's, and leaves Sasuke. Sasuke becomes dark and brooding (perfect to be possesed) and trains like a bitch to get stronger, but the stronger part really doesn't matter because Oro is strong enough, that his Chakra and knowledge would make up for any lack of skill...

Now, what I think will happen is Oro will do all this, say all this, and be |___________| that close to possessing Sasuke, and Itachi will be like, Oro, your a whore, take my body. Right Here. Right now. so it'll be all sad and junk, and Oro will have a new body, thats stronger, cool, and sharinganified...


Now, about that Itachi... he is one bad ass mother fucker... ANBU captain at 13?!?!?!? If the whole Uchiha Clan Killing never happended he'd be Hokage for sure... And thats the way you use the sharingan... hypnotise sentry's...

I can TOTALLY understand why so many people are obsessed with Itachi on this forum..

[Assertn]

Originally posted by: Aeon
Number 1 was the fact that Oro admitted that Itachi was stronger then and wanted to get rid of those from his clan. This made me think since no one has proof that Itachi destroyed his clan that Oro could have done it out of feer that the whole Clan would become stronger then him. I'm guess the reason why Itachi took the blame was because he wanted Sauske to not be dependant on him for protection and to make it his goal to kill him.

im sorry that you watched the SO version of naruto

my friend pointed out this terribly wrong error in their translation to me earlier....but nowhere does oro mention killing uchihas in that episode.....he was SUPPOSED to say "that is why i left the organization", but for some reason SO made him say "that is why i must kill all the uchihas", or something retarded like that

[Neji-Aniki-sama]

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure


im sorry that you watched the SO version of naruto

my friend pointed out this terribly wrong error in their translation to me earlier....but nowhere does oro mention killing uchihas in that episode.....he was SUPPOSED to say "that is why i left the organization", but for some reason SO made him say "that is why i must kill all the uchihas", or something retarded like that

Yeah, and even myself who doesn't know Japanese to save my life (except for insults, maybe, but that definitly wouldn't save my life) could figure out that their translation was totally off.
I pointed that in another thread, but apparently doing so was bashing the subs.
I defintly won't bash subs, I always get Bakasan and find it pretty watchable. But I really found necessary to point out, with the few examples I could gather, that the translation was off. Not because I am picky or whatever, but simply because one couldn't understand lots of important things in the episode.
In SO, they didn't mention that the Sand told the Leaf that Oro had set them up. So, people who only watched that sub missed that particular info, and lots of other stuff. For me reason enough not to download SO anymore.

[jing]

You can disguise the face, but you can't disguise the Sharingan. So Oro killing the clan? I think not.

Itachi is FOR SURE not innocent.

[kilzo]

i have a feeling... this isnt going to get anywhere, or this just going to go into another itachi debate soon...