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    Episode 81 Discussion

    It looked to me that Sasuke was practicing the uchiha bloodline dealy on himself in the opening when he saw himself as a snivelling little wiener, and attacked himself. Does anybody have anyother thoughts or explanations as to why thats what we saw when Sasuke was training?
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    i don't get it. where did we see sasuke train? are you guys talking about in the first few minutes of the episode when little sasuke was crying about how he wasn't strong enough? i don't think he was 'training' i think he was just hanging around. anyway, when he threw the kunai at little sasuke, all that was sasuke being angry at himself for not being strong enough... which was exactly what little sasuke said... maybe i'm not on the same boat as you guys.
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    if it was training then i'm not surprised he's already weaker than naruto <hahaha>

    ekhem... he was just thinking *AGAIN* about his past and got angry like Mut@t@ said...

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    Episode 81 Discussion

    Originally posted by: Neji-Aniki-sama
    On a completely different subject, why put this guy on guard duty?
    He obviously doesn't take Genjutsu well...
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    Haha.

    Yeah, he's the most useless guard ever.

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    I think there are a few mis-conceptions going on here. This isnt DBZ, there are no 'power levels'. i believe in ranking the various chars in Naruto in the way they have been thus far will lead to incredible plot holes forming. for example we clearly know that kakashi is supirior to Naruto in almost every way in terms of skill, Naruto Beats Gaara's summoning ( i forget the name sorry, iam sure someone will correct me) so is it fair to say kakashi can also do the same? Dont forget its been stated that the 'copy' ninja knows all the techniques in us in Konoha. While this may be an exageration we could easliy assume that he knows the more difficult and chakra draining techniques, such as the summons. So its important to take every fight on its merits, theres no point in saying that because Oro stated he was weaker than Itachi and kakashi was scared (intimidated by) Oro then kakashi wouldnt stand a chance in hell against Itachi. From what we have seen so far i think people are overreacting to Itachis powers somewhat, he didnt sense kakashi moving in on him.

    To support my theory that you cant rank them in such as way as to say that such and such a person can beat so and so, therefore he can beat *insert other person's name here*. i think we have to look at things more pragmatically, for example we cna look at neji, naruto and lee. we clearly see lee handind naruto his ass (albeit before his limited training). we can see that naruto simply cannot keep up with neji's attacks and we must assume lee is faster from his performance against Gaara and naurto/sasuke. so naruto beats neji therefore because lee can beat naruto lee>neji. however if we look at there skills we can see this more than likley wouldnt be the case as nejis defense would likely be 100% secure against Lee's chakra starved attacks.

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    Originally posted by: chambers
    From what we have seen so far i think people are overreacting to Itachis powers somewhat, he didnt sense kakashi moving in on him.
    ok... itachi isn't a god. kakashi is an excellent ninja. people aren't overreacting to itachi's powers, it's more like people are underestimating what kakashi is capable of.
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    i noticed the connection with the sleeping guard as well, thanks for confirming it [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

    this episode hints at the next hokage
    explains the 2 mysterious guys with the cloud cloaks
    shows kurenai actually doing something

    i think this was a pretty accomplished episode [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
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    also now the kazekage is dead does that confirm that orochimaru has to kill his victims for the face jutsu or did he kill him before he did it ????????

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    was the forum down for the past few days or was it just me.
    OH well.
    i liked this episode, it was good all around with some action and some talking.
    The Naruto and Konohamaru part was kinda boring for me but it was useful in showing how Konoha is recovering after the Oro attack.
    I was really suprised to see Kazekage dead, ever since Oro tore off Kazekages face in front of Hokage, i thought it was just any regular mask that can be easily made, but WHOA, Orochimaru actually defeated Kazekage that easily. Man i would love to have seen if they were killed with a great battle or a wussy stealth assassination. In my opinion now, i think Orochimaru does steal faces after he kills them. Just remember the Chuunin exam and those three dead nins and their faceless faces.
    in the scene where oro and kabuto were talking, i was wondering what the translation for Oros ring was (was it even visible to translate?), the rings for Itachi and Kisame were translated.
    I loved the Asuma and Kurenai vs Itachi and kisame fight, im wonderign who they could be looking for, maybe Sasuke, but who knows right now.
    I have a theory of why Itachi killed his clan, im not sure but i think it might have something to do with Oros quest for all jutsus. Maybe he killed them so that Oro cant obtain the sharingan (but i dont know why he left Sasuke, other than to kill itachi?) Itachi didnt seem like a murderer like gaara, he would have just killed Asuma and Kurenai easily if he wanted to.
    cant wait for the next episode.

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    itachi is an evil psycho. if he didnt want oro to get the sharingan or if he really cared he could just kill oro lol.

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    I just wanted to throw this in. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that if a person wants to use a summoning technique, he has to first make a contract with the creature (or creature type) that he wants to be able to summon. So they usually can only summon one type of creature.

    Kakashi has his dogs, Sarutobi had his monkey, Oro had his snakes, and Jiraya+Naruto had toads. I'm pretty sure that Kakashi wouldn't be able to summon a creature capable of dealing with Shukaku. This is especially true when dealing with the final form.

    So in the Naruto vs. Gaara battle, Naruto (and Konoha in general) really lucked out. Naruto just happened to have a summon that could take on Gaara's. No amount of Chidoris or copied jutsus would have allowed Kakashi to beat that giant monster. Of course, that in no way means that Naruto is better than Kakashi. Just that in this case, he had the appropriate move.





    As for Itachi, he seems really cool. I don't read the manga, so the fact that Kakashi got up behind him so easily is surprising. This is in light of the fact that some bastards on this forum seem to be unable to keep from spoiling and have been praising how powerful Itachi is for the last couple of months.

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    hell yeah, i'm one of those bastards obviously.

    anyway, gaara wouldn't even have the chance to turn into shukaku (sp?) if he were to go up against someone like kakashi. kakashi would put a kunai through gaara's face in a second before gaara's cat litter would have time to react to it. and if gaara were to tranform to shukaku (including fake sleep no jutsu... whatever it was called) then kakashi would just use his speed and size as an advantage against the monster. using his sharingan kakashi can pretty much get to sleepy-gaara in no time and then put a chidori right in gaara's face. i think kakashi's size and speed is a huge advantage when going up against big ol' monsters. however, someone like naruto wouldn't be able to do this cuz he sucks.
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    during kurenai's fight with itachi, she was bleeding. at first i thought that happened after itachi took out his kunai but then i had a thought, she probably did it to counter the genjutsu that itachi countered back at her. i think countering it with pain does the trick? pls confirm.

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    I wanna know what's so important about the rings that Oro,Itachi and Kisame have. They must be important since they kept showing them.
    I dont think those rings mean anything, its just to show they use to be all in the same organization

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    Originally posted by: chitgoks
    during kurenai's fight with itachi, she was bleeding. at first i thought that happened after itachi took out his kunai but then i had a thought, she probably did it to counter the genjutsu that itachi countered back at her. i think countering it with pain does the trick? pls confirm.
    yeah she bit herself really hard to counter it. I got the same opinion as you

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    yeah pain does break the hold that a illusionary technique puts on you, the pain acts as a medium thats makes you focus on something else

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    did itachi looked surprised at all when kakashi showed up? no. i think itachi just has that dont care laid back but im actually a killer attitude.

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    yeah he doesnt really care about anything any more if Kisame died, he'd be like Oh Well

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    I don't care what anybody says, Jiraya is the king, and I am looking forward to some more Jiraya-Naruto golden dialoge and training sessions.

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    Originally posted by: Mut@t@
    hell yeah, i'm one of those bastards obviously.

    anyway, gaara wouldn't even have the chance to turn into shukaku (sp?) if he were to go up against someone like kakashi. kakashi would put a kunai through gaara's face in a second before gaara's cat litter would have time to react to it. and if gaara were to tranform to shukaku (including fake sleep no jutsu... whatever it was called) then kakashi would just use his speed and size as an advantage against the monster. using his sharingan kakashi can pretty much get to sleepy-gaara in no time and then put a chidori right in gaara's face. i think kakashi's size and speed is a huge advantage when going up against big ol' monsters. however, someone like naruto wouldn't be able to do this cuz he sucks.

    In a clean fight, Kakashi would win hands down. But like all anime heros, he seems to wait until the enemy has shown all his best moves. If Kakashi waited for Gaara to bust out the final form, he'd be screwing himself.

    If Gaara poked his head out of the giant body to talk to Kakashi, he'd die real fast. But I got the impression that he only came out to talk to Naruto. He could have stayed deep inside that monster.

    As for size, that's a serious disadvantage when those air blasts are concerned. Gamabunta was able to dodge or block most of the shots because he was big enough to jump clear of them. Those explosions looked like they had blast radii of hundreds of feet. A little guy would get blown up in no time.

    And if anybody actually got close enough to crawl around on his body to avoid the wind attacks, desert coffins would be waiting for them, as they were for Naruto.

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