Is there a way back for Sasuke?

[Gods_Son]

Orochimaru probably didn't have much to do with killing the Uchiha, he's probably not powerful enough. Itachi probably also would've just killed him, and they wouldn't have been able to be in Akatsuki together. Someone else killing the Uchiha and Itachi coming at the end and seeing it could make sense. Then Itachi told Sasuke to seek power and revenge so he could become stronger and be the one to avenge the Uchiha, since Itachi already knew his max potential wasn't as great as Sasuke's and wouldn't be enough to defeat the person. It's hard to come up with a decent theory that goes against what's already been said (Itachi killed the Uchiha), with only the few clues about the clan massacre. We'll probably see the truth when Sasuke becomes a more worthy opponent and faces Itachi again.

[Mcdougal]

Come on people.. No one else besides Neji-aniki-sama that's going to give me any answers?

Everywhere i look at these boards i see people spitting bile at Sasuke with the reason that he betrayed the leaf, saying he could stay with the leaf and train. But from where i stand, the fastest (and probably only) way for Sasuke to gain enough strenght to take down Itachi is by going to Orochimaru. So unless you guys can prove me wrong, i'm just going to assume that im right.

[Death BOO Z]

There is no such thing as free meals.

Doesn't Sasuke ever wonder why Orochimaru is after him? doesn't he think that he'll be forced to do somethings which aren't for his best intrest? Sasuke is going to join Oro, while he doesn't know jacksquat on him, heck, he doesn't even know that Orochimaru was behined that attack against the leaf (now that i'm thinking of it, Sasuke doesn't know alot of stuff, and he's still being a complete idiot) does he honestly believe that Orochimaru will just let him go start up a family after the whole buisness is done?


on top of that, Sasuke has an obligation to recreate the Uchiha clan, more than avenging, rebuilding the clan is the final goal, one of the reasons Sasuke was told to run and cling to life was so that he could make more Uchihas and reproduce his idiotic genes... what good will he get if he Kills Itachi and dies at the same time?


and just one last thing, what power is Sasuke seeking? the power of the curse seal? which did abasaloutly nothing against Itachi, and even the lvl2 seal is getting whacked off by idiots such as Kiba and Neji? the sound village is pretty incompatent, I think...

Basically, while Sasuke was soundly dream-angsting about his family (about a month lengh, from the Itachi incedent to the day tsunde returend), he lost a good portion of his mind, too bad he had to woke up now, and not in, lets say, five more months...



Sure, I know that all of the above mean nothing to Sasuke, and I'm aware to the fact there are alot of uknown factors that Sasuke doesn't know about, and that he has his (good) reasonnings to do so. But still, i feel a need to:
a. go to sleep.
b. proove people wrong (this case: Mcdougal).



well, that's the cue for me to leave to bed, cya tommorow (actually, i'm supposed to study tommorow, but i won't be able to stop myself from peeking at the forum).

[Mcdougal]

Sasukes state of mind wasn't exactly the ideal one for analysing sitiuations, if you get my meaning. First he gets mentally tortured by his brother for the equivalent of tree days, then he finds out that the biggest moron in Konoha suddenly got stronger than him and then he gets his ass kicked by 4 sound ninjas. That's bound to cloud up your judgement a little.

He knew the price of the cursed seal, he knew Oro wanted him as a slave, this was explicitly stated to him from the 4 sound ninjas.. He just didn't care. Wether this is because of him being so arrogant that he thinks he can just break free later on or if he just doesn't care i do not know. And the reason he doesn't know anything is that noone ever bothers to tell him anything. If people had bothered to tell Sasuke that Oro wants him for his bodies sake, i think that sasuke might have had a change of heart.
And his ambitions to recreate the clan went out the window the moment he saw Itachi again. The only thing he cares about now is scewering itachi and piss on the remains. And besides, he can't recreate it with Itachi still around, os he has to take him out first. And in order to do it as quick as possible, so he can produce as many offspring as possible, Oro was the best choice. Provided Sasuke gets out of this mess, that is. Which he probably will. Of course, i'm not saying that's how he was thinking, but still, a point to consider.

As for the curse seal, yes, the ninjas from the sound village are pretty incompetent, that however doesn't belittle the effectiveness of the curse seal. The only thing the seal does is to give the user tons and tons of Chakra. Now if they are too dumb to be using it effectivlyso be it, but that doesn't mean that the seal is useless. In the hands of a competent individual (i.e Sasuke) the seal could be extremely useful.

And you still didn't answer the original question. What other options did Sasuke have that would yield a better result than him running of to Oro?

Eagerly anticipating you proving me wrong.

And good luck with your studying

[Mut]

Originally posted by: Death BOO Z
Doesn't Sasuke ever wonder why Orochimaru is after him? doesn't he think that he'll be forced to do somethings which aren't for his best intrest? Sasuke is going to join Oro, while he doesn't know jacksquat on him, heck, he doesn't even know that Orochimaru was behined that attack against the leaf (now that i'm thinking of it, Sasuke doesn't know alot of stuff, and he's still being a complete idiot) does he honestly believe that Orochimaru will just let him go start up a family after the whole buisness is done?

the thing is that sasuke doesn't care what orochimaru wants. sasuke has this mind set of just becoming stronger so he almost totally ignores any consequences that can follow his actions. sasuke just wants to become strong.

on top of that, Sasuke has an obligation to recreate the Uchiha clan, more than avenging, rebuilding the clan is the final goal, one of the reasons Sasuke was told to run and cling to life was so that he could make more Uchihas and reproduce his idiotic genes... what good will he get if he Kills Itachi and dies at the same time?

i don't think sasuke has an obligation to resurrect the uchiha clan. he did say that it was one of his goals, but i think he is concentrated more on killing itachi.

and just one last thing, what power is Sasuke seeking? the power of the curse seal? which did abasaloutly nothing against Itachi, and even the lvl2 seal is getting whacked off by idiots such as Kiba and Neji? the sound village is pretty incompatent, I think...

sasuke doesn't know neji and kiba whacked those two guys.

Basically, while Sasuke was soundly dream-angsting about his family (about a month lengh, from the Itachi incedent to the day tsunde returend), he lost a good portion of his mind, too bad he had to woke up now, and not in, lets say, five more months...

he lost a portion of his memory? i don't think tsukukyomi erases memory off people's minds.

[Autophage]

I think that this arc in the story will mark the death of Orochimaru and make way for more Itachi and Red Moon characters to emerge. This series has been going on for so long -- and with the way things have been slowly building up in this story arc -- it leads me to believe that it may be time to skin the snake and focus on Naruto as the fulcrum of the story again -- via Akatsuki.

[viciousHyuuga]

Originally posted by: HimizujinEternia
I honestly think that there is no way Naruto can bring back Sasuke for the sake of the story. What I want to see is Naruto unable to fufill his way of the ninja. I believe that Sasuke has the potential to be the final villian in the series, so perhaps Naruto will finally fufill his promise after he kills Sasuke in their final fight (which should take place after Sasuke kills Itachi and Naruto becomes Hokage.) Naruto then brings Sasuke's body to Sakura, finally fufilling his promise.

that makes for a sick ending HAHA nice sakura has kid an stuff an naruto rocks up to her house an she falls over his dead body crying. an naruto has all teary eyes

[Wren]

well that little promise naruto made is all the more reason for him to fail----they do that crap all the time in things i guess, but if it were up to me at this point (to save a whole lot of other damn pointless one on one battles) the only way back for sasuke would be a pine box :-P

[PSJ]

sasuke should not come back that would make the show boring.

[Stoopider]

Originally posted by: viciousHyuuga

Originally posted by: HimizujinEternia
Bla bla bla

that makes for a sick ending HAHA nice sakura has kid an stuff an naruto rocks up to her house an she falls over his dead body crying. an naruto has all teary eyes

Serves Naruto right for making stupid promises. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

McDougal, you are probably right that Oro would be the best teacher for Sasuke. But we are all still think that Sasuke is an idiot for going after Oro. Blinded after a stupid goal. But to put ourselves in his shoe's, it would be most definitely very hard to leave and forget, but it is possible.

Like Kakashi says to Sasuke before he ran off, to not be so stupidly blinded by it and that by taking revenge, would bring nothing.

Anyway,come to think of it, better teacher than Oro?? Jiraiya of course... Who's student became the 4th Hokage? I don't see Anko being the 4th. Heheh. Just because they have indifferent personalities, doesn't mean they can't aspire to be great. And Anko, hmmm, never seen her fight anyone else except Orochimaru, I wonder how would she fare vs Kakashi.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: Stoopider
And Anko, hmmm, never seen her fight anyone else except Orochimaru, I wonder how would she fare vs Kakashi.

she would've gotten her ass kicked.

[Mcdougal]

McDougal, you are probably right that Oro would be the best teacher for Sasuke. But we are all still think that Sasuke is an idiot for going after Oro. Blinded after a stupid goal. But to put ourselves in his shoe's, it would be most definitely very hard to leave and forget, but it is possible.

Like Kakashi says to Sasuke before he ran off, to not be so stupidly blinded by it and that by taking revenge, would bring nothing.

Anyway,come to think of it, better teacher than Oro?? Jiraiya of course... Who's student became the 4th Hokage? I don't see Anko being the 4th. Heheh. Just because they have indifferent personalities, doesn't mean they can't aspire to be great. And Anko, hmmm, never seen her fight anyone else except Orochimaru, I wonder how would she fare vs Kakashi

Yeah, despite me being a Sasuke fan from day one, i was too slightly annoyed at his decision to leave the leaf and his friends. I would have prefered it if he would have just trained with Kakashi, but i could still, at least partially, understand his motives. After having seen episode 84 however, i find Sasukes response a lot more understandable. Sure, i aldready knew about the Uchiha massacre, but the anime really amplified the feelings one felt while reading the manga. Suddenly, his thirst for revenge just doesn't seem as stupid as one previously thought. The anime makes that feeling more understandable, at least imho.
I really can't blame sasuke one bit for acting the way he did, having to relive those grissly moments for 72 hours. Hell, i'd be surprised if he would have rejected Oro's offer. Orochimaru more or less offered Sasuke the means to get Itachi's head on a platter, and the only price...his soul. I know that i would have considered it a fair trade if i where in his shoes.