Does anyone think that if chouji were to die that shika would become even stronger. Because most anime scenarios follow that if a close friend/ relative dies usually the person becomes really strong. Im thinking that after this little sasuke arc goes by we wont see shika for awhile, maybe like he will train and learn a little more shadow techniques and etc... . What do you think ? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
NO, shika will not become stronger if Chouji died. Shika's lazy, he doesn't want to train. Why would it take someone's death in order for you to sincerely train? That and he admitted that he just wanted to become a regular ninja, with a regular women, to have a regular life.
Also consider that since Chouji is his best friend, he may spiral into depression. Since he wasn't strong enough to help him. It was his decision, his and his alone (since he was team leader), to have them fight one on one. He may be guilt ridden and stop training all togeter.
Originally posted by: hiten mitsurugi
NO, shika will not become stronger if Chouji died. Shika's lazy, he doesn't want to train. Why would it take someone's death in order for you to sincerely train? That and he admitted that he just wanted to become a regular ninja, with a regular women, to have a regular life.
Also consider that since Chouji is his best friend, he may spiral into depression. Since he wasn't strong enough to help him. It was his decision, his and his alone (since he was team leader), to have them fight one on one. He may be guilt ridden and stop training all togeter.
Chouji dying can be a true catalyst for Shika's change in personality.
He may think that if he were stronger or better trained he could have prevented the death and thus he will train only harder to deny further deaths of friends/allies.
I guess you took the pessimistic point of view on this one.
Nope, Shika isn't the emotional type. He may feel sad his friend died, but I can't imagine him crying or even being moved to train harder because of it. Besides it wasn't because he was weak that his friend died, it was because Chouji had to use that last pill.
Originally posted by: Himura_san
Chouji dying can be a true catalyst for Shika's change in personality.
He may think that if he were stronger or better trained he could have prevented the death and thus he will train only harder to deny further deaths of friends/allies.
I guess you took the pessimistic point of view on this one.
Shika isn't the emotional type?? Let me just say that no matter how unemotional a person may be, having thier best friend die will absolutely affect them. Shikamaru might not change because he thought he directly caused Choji's death, he may just feel responsible in some way because he wanted Choji to join, he trusted Choji to finish that guy off, he didn't train enough in the past with Choji to make him stronger, etc.Originally posted by: CapsuleCorpJX
Nope, Shika isn't the emotional type. He may feel sad his friend died, but I can't imagine him crying or even being moved to train harder because of it. Besides it wasn't because he was weak that his friend died, it was because Chouji had to use that last pill.
I just want to see a change in Shikamaru because I want him to become a more rounded character. I like Shikamaru's character, but he needs to evolve if Kishimoto's gonna spend so much time on this character.
I agree, Shikamaru just being an unemotional, lazy bastard would be lame after a while. Without a significant goal to achieve, most characters get boring. Sasuke wants to kill Itachi, Naruto wants to be hokage, and Shikamaru needs to have something to strive for, otherwise he shouldn't get as much screen time.Originally posted by: Everon
I just want to see a change in Shikamaru because I want him to become a more rounded character. I like Shikamaru's character, but he needs to evolve if Kishimoto's gonna spend so much time on this character.
Kinda pessimistic there, aren't ya?Originally posted by: hiten mitsurugi
NO, shika will not become stronger if Chouji died. Shika's lazy, he doesn't want to train. Why would it take someone's death in order for you to sincerely train? That and he admitted that he just wanted to become a regular ninja, with a regular women, to have a regular life.
Also consider that since Chouji is his best friend, he may spiral into depression. Since he wasn't strong enough to help him. It was his decision, his and his alone (since he was team leader), to have them fight one on one. He may be guilt ridden and stop training all togeter.
Chouji's the only one for him. Haven't you realise how Shika hates gurls? It's because he has Chouji.Originally posted by: Hotsuma
Kinda pessimistic there, aren't ya?Originally posted by: hiten mitsurugi
NO, shika will not become stronger if Chouji died. Shika's lazy, he doesn't want to train. Why would it take someone's death in order for you to sincerely train? That and he admitted that he just wanted to become a regular ninja, with a regular women, to have a regular life.
Also consider that since Chouji is his best friend, he may spiral into depression. Since he wasn't strong enough to help him. It was his decision, his and his alone (since he was team leader), to have them fight one on one. He may be guilt ridden and stop training all togeter.
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Chouji's dying will really help Shikamaru's growth, up to now, shikamaru thinks as if he's playing a chess game, he hadn't realized the meaning of losing yet (he was never hurt, or in a real near death situation), each time he was in trouble, he quitted or somebody came to save him...
If chouji dies it will be a real impact on the 'game playing' Shikamaru, maybe he'll start using his byraingan for better purporesess (spelling!).
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He hates girls, not pussy, there's a difference, and I know from experience. Anyways, it's really hard to say, basing it on my own personality ( I'm alot like Shikamaru, seriously. ) he may go through a momentary change, and then return to his normal self after awhile, besides, him getting stronger would be a little out of character, he may get more serious about things, but as for brawn I doubt it, probably work more on strategies and other mind skills.Originally posted by: Stoopider
Chouji's the only one for him. Haven't you realise how Shika hates gurls? It's because he has Chouji.Originally posted by: Hotsuma
Kinda pessimistic there, aren't ya?Originally posted by: hiten mitsurugi
NO, shika will not become stronger if Chouji died. Shika's lazy, he doesn't want to train. Why would it take someone's death in order for you to sincerely train? That and he admitted that he just wanted to become a regular ninja, with a regular women, to have a regular life.
Also consider that since Chouji is his best friend, he may spiral into depression. Since he wasn't strong enough to help him. It was his decision, his and his alone (since he was team leader), to have them fight one on one. He may be guilt ridden and stop training all togeter.
Nah, just the reality of the situation. Pessimistic would be Chouji dieing in the first place. I think he's going to be just fine, at least I hope. I want to see multi-size chouji vs Gamabunta. I think it would be so cool if Chouji could wield Gamabunta's Katana.Originally posted by: Hotsuma
Kinda pessimistic there, aren't ya?Originally posted by: hiten mitsurugi
NO, shika will not become stronger if Chouji died. Shika's lazy, he doesn't want to train. Why would it take someone's death in order for you to sincerely train? That and he admitted that he just wanted to become a regular ninja, with a regular women, to have a regular life.
Also consider that since Chouji is his best friend, he may spiral into depression. Since he wasn't strong enough to help him. It was his decision, his and his alone (since he was team leader), to have them fight one on one. He may be guilt ridden and stop training all togeter.
Shikamaru showing initiative? Blasphemy! He is a lazy bastard; that's why I like him.
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Well, the theme of the manga/anime is that they get strong while protecting those who are precious to them (my prrrrrecious *ahem*). Hence shika would be stronger fighting alongside chouji and having them protecting eachother, however i'll be disapointed if chouji makes it... Not because i don't like him, but because ending his story here will leave him with honor, and the whole butterfly thing, final suicide attack, and someone has to die damnit...
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I have to admit if chouji does cash out now, he went out well. yes the butterfly was a nice touch. chouji is alright, i like him i like him alot- but someone has to go out and if its Neji... well what a waiste of a super genious
It's true, if he started working hard, he'd lose all this character charm. The laziness is what makes Shika Shika.
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I might sound sadistic, but I for one would like to so Shikamaru lose big time. Shikamaru seems invincible because he is always able to counter his opponents with some form of strategy. In order for his character to grow, he needs to lose BIG time. If choji dies in the process, I think it'll be for the better. The manga needs to show that we can't be lazy and still manage to stay on top of things.
Then again I'm a rock lee fanboy. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
I agree. He could use a little bit of motivation. At least for some time.Originally posted by: Everon
I might sound sadistic, but I for one would like to so Shikamaru lose big time. Shikamaru seems invincible because he is always able to counter his opponents with some form of strategy. In order for his character to grow, he needs to lose BIG time. If choji dies in the process, I think it'll be for the better. The manga needs to show that we can't be lazy and still manage to stay on top of things.
It still bothers me how Shikamaru defeated Tayuya's Genjutsu by breaking his pinky. The only ways to avoid genjutsu (that I've seen so far) is:
1. kai (something like that) deflect genjutsu, used by Sakura, Gai, and Kakashi during the sound/sand invasion.
2. Severe pain, like breaking of a finger, shown by Shikamaru.
#2 contradicts the introduction of mange.
What I mean is that the brain perceives pain in the same manner. Whether the pain is really there (broken finger) or the pain itself is just a placebo (mange). So if rule #2 applies, then (just an example) the first time that Kakshi was stabbed during mange, he would have broke out of mange because the pain would have been too much. It would not have occured 1000 times (however many times Itachi stated), because of the pain Kakashi would have snapped out of it.
didnt Oro try something like that on sasuke and he stabed his self so he could get away it wasnt just shika who done severe pain to there selfs to make em move.
Oro was using body-binding and Sasuke had to use pain from the stab to overcome the fear of Oro's killing intent.
Shika broke out of the genjutsu because his body melting was supposed to psyche him out and was not felt as pain so he used real pain to escape.
Mange creates a situation that is so real that the brain perceives it as what is happening.
This is similar to the matrix, or the work of a powerful telepath in X-men.
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