hey, sometimes relations change........osama used to be on our side and we hooked him up with goods to fight against (um, was it communists? i dont really remember)
and now look at what he did
hey, sometimes relations change........osama used to be on our side and we hooked him up with goods to fight against (um, was it communists? i dont really remember)
and now look at what he did
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No, sometimes you turn the other cheek when your buddy Saddam is launching mustard gas into Iranian villiages and into Kurd villiages in Iraq killing many innocent people.Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
hey, sometimes relations change........osama used to be on our side and we hooked him up with goods to fight against (um, was it communists? i dont really remember)
and now look at what he did
Rumsfield was best buddies with Saddam when this was happening and they knew he was doing
this type of genocide.
LOL whoever said Gore was smart? The guy said he invented the internet!!Oh by the way I just found this out: George W Bush had better grades in school than Gore. Amazing isn't it?
Comparing two dumbasses does not mean much.
that doesnt exactly counter my point though
in fact it kinda supports it
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one would think that by the argument, but that "No" at the beginning sounded like a disagreement to my post that he quoted
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I think that was his intention [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
MmmMmm. Ooiiishiii
Here's something EVERYONE should be aware of:
http://congress.org/congressorg/issu...ua_congressorg
Basically, they're planning on bringing back the draft, including men and women, not allowing college as an excuse to 'dodge' the draft (now you have to finish up your year/semester, and you go)... and so forth. Because this is going to be an excrutiantingly (sp?) long war, the government can't rely on people just volunteering to fight anymore.
whats wrong with that?
if your going to live here you should want to fight for your country
Yes if it came down to that I would, but that's not the case. The war in Iraq has nothing to do with the United States and it's security. It's all about Saddam, oil, and for the "freedom" of the Iraqi people.Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
whats wrong with that?
if your going to live here you should want to fight for your country
The draft will cause more problems. Nothing's worse than fighting along side a pacifist.
so says somone whose never been to a hostile zone me thinks.
ive been on tour in ireland, its not nice. infact id go so far as to say its the worst thing anyone can ever experince.
Don't think its such a good idea to have it. However having National Service and sneakily deport the countries Youth would be interesting. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
The problem with US, is that their taking over the job of UN, useless dinks. Being the only country to contain the war against terror.
But also, handling Iraq with very minimal casualties require a immense number of soldiers. To tighten security.
MmmMmm. Ooiiishiii
chambers how about you stfu dont act like you know me you stupid son of a whore. people should want to protect their families was my only point.
they should, but they shouldn't be forced to. I plan on joining the military, but I WANT TO. There is no place for people in the miltary who are drafted... its just not right.
Plus, Where the HELL is the freedom in that? "Oh, we are america, we allow you to do whatever job you please, worship any god you want, and sue the hell out of anything that moves, but wait... what if your a pacifist? No... we can't have that, why don't you get in there and fight for some oil.... what you don't want to? too bad, because this is america, and if you don't want to tough... leave then... on second though, nope, you can't leave... we won't let you. whore"
That just SCREAMS freedom.
there's no need to get excited about this draft thing......wars these days are mostly technology-oriented, using missiles and bombs instead of foot soldiers, and i highly doubt they need more people for this iraq thing....dont they plan to set up the new government in a month or 2? all they have to worry about are a bunch of random armed civilians
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I think that's the problem. Random armed civilians are a lot tougher to deal with than an actual army.
He's talking about Guerilla Warfare.Originally posted by: Xollence
I think that's the problem. Random armed civilians are a lot tougher to deal with than an actual army.
MmmMmm. Ooiiishiii
so you're implying that the random armed civilians are going to cause the US to draft more people?
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No, I'm implying that it would be a lot tougher to deal with random civilians. Look at the way the war is going so far, around 800+ dead and 4300+ wounded just from "random armed civilians". And even when they setup a new government, troops will be staying there for another year or more. They're actually sending more troops right now.Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
so you're implying that the random armed civilians are going to cause the US to draft more people?
This war won't be all about missles and bombs, many foot soldiers are required for house to house searches and city fighting.
i uh.....know what he's talking about
but that doesnt change anything
thats the second time already that you've misinterpreted a conversation between me and someone else [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
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the size of our army isnt by any means low enough for them to go drafting people just to act as police officers in iraq....which is the point i was trying to make
and obviously we wouldnt be dropping bombs on iraq for random civilians.....i was saying "WAR is technology driven".....and i would hardly consider watching guard around the new government as any sort of war
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maybe intelligence says there may be a larger war soon like NKorea or China, and the government knows they need more troops. you never know really, maybe they just want a bigger army to be prepared
Our soldiers will still be fighting and dying in Iraq for at least another year, since I doubt the Iraqi people will follow the new government which will most likely be US controlled. I wasn't saying anything about a draft, just saying we shouldn't underestimate the random armed civilians. It's going to be a lot more than just watching guard.
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