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    RE: significant plot twists that turn out pointless

    I believe oro sealed naruto because naruto was giving him quite a hard time... he didn't want to awaken kyobi now did he?

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    They can shrug it off as a temporary reseal since he wasn't spose to take long, but you can always make excuses for the creator on open-ended stuff. He'd do all this stuff differently to make it flow better if he remade the series. It's not perfect, and he overlooks things. If you want your series completely planned out with no flaws it's just not gonna happen with series this long. It discourages all of us a little. When it gets bad enough, more people start losing interest, and it inevitably dies. It's just the life cycle, and they'll keep it going as long as they can.

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    RE: significant plot twists that turn out pointless

    the way they made the big deal about naruto being able to do the water training excersize after the seal was removed, you'd think that he had that handicap the entire series [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

    and yeah, i know that somethin will happen to oro within the few years that he has to wait before taking sasuke's body....cause i highly doubt sasuke's ever gonna get possessed.....but im sure they'll end up pushing it close
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    RE: significant plot twists that turn out pointless

    bringing back lee as the heroic rescuer only to be saved by the one who ruined his shit in the first place is pretty pointless. i mean, leave that kid in the hospital, where he belongs. and i guess gaara will in story for longer now.
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    I would have to agree with the Jounin [Mut@t@] on this one. Rock Lee is indefinitely my favorite character, and I would have loved to see more of him. His arrival was wonderfully anticipated, and I could not have been more excited to see him. His lil' debut of drunken style fighting was cute, and anything involving Lee is taken well by me.

    However, only to last two (three? four?) chapters, and only to be rescued by the cheesy bum [even if the new duds are kosher] that crushed two limbs of his .. is bull. Ironic, but also pointless. It was great to see Lee, but it should have either remained as Lee, or had Gaara arrive from the break. Then again, we do not know what is to come from the next chapters, so we cannot say much. Although, I am sure myriad theories will be springing to life any moment, now ..

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    RE: significant plot twists that turn out pointless

    yeah, im sure lee will do some useful stuff.....but i think the idea that more and more people keep showing up is really interesting......
    first there was the sound 4 vs the 5 konoha kids
    then it was 2 sound vs 3 konoha
    then 3 sound vs 3 konoha
    then 3 sound and sasuke vs 4 konoha
    and now 3 sound and sasuke vs 4 konoha and 3 sand
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    As I had briefly stated in another post, I am enjoying all of these surprise visitations. The only negative, is that each chapter is too short to house the intensity each character is bringing to the table. The plate is too full. Each chapter is going to have to be based on one to two events, at a time. Advancing the story arc will be even slower with too much going on.

    Next chapter .. even though I really want to see what the Sand Nin's next actions will be .. don't you agree that we need to see Naruto & Sasuke? As well as the true outcome of Neji and Chouji. I like Neji, too. He can't be dead .. Sniff, sniff ..

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    RE: significant plot twists that turn out pointless

    yeah....that brings back something i mentioned before comparing the anime and manga
    people say that the manga takes too long for action stuff to move on, and they also say that flashback type anime episodes drag on for too long

    simply put.....dialogue scenes progress quickly in the manga, as a whole conversation can take place in one or 2 frames while in the anime it can take half an episode for a conversation to carry out...since it actually has to be spoken, not read.
    Action scenes however are hard to depict as still images in a manga, and so fight scenes take up alot more space. Anime naturally handles these things well and which is why you can take for example the most recent episode where 3 full manga chapters were covered in one episode.

    Although people say that this saga seems to get kinda boring for a while....it seems to me like it was much more designed for animation, and will become extremely cool when the anime gets to this point
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    Well said, AssertnFailure [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] I haven't really been a fan of this 'chase sasuke' series at all, but considering what it might be like in anime form, could be decent. And it will be soooo cool to see Lee, Gaara, Temari show up [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

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    RE: significant plot twists that turn out pointless

    Originally posted by: MemnochTheCaT
    Well said, AssertnFailure [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] I haven't really been a fan of this 'chase sasuke' series at all, but considering what it might be like in anime form, could be decent. And it will be soooo cool to see Lee, Gaara, Temari show up [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
    When you talk like that, one can say that you've found the perfect excuse for Sasuke's behavior.
    It brought some intersting characters back.

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    Heh, yeah, I'm quite sure that wasn't Sasuke's motivation, but that doesn't bother me. I'm just glad that this has gotten more interesting [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

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    significant plot twists that turn out pointless

    I'm surprised some of you don't see the utter sweetness that will be Rock Lee and Gaara double teaming Kimimaro.

    They fought each other so they know each other's techniques well. Hell, Gaara's the only one to ever be on the receiving end of Lee's Ura Renge.

    Maybe they'll do something crazy like, instead of using banadages, have Gaara bind Kimimaro with a Desert Coffin for the Omote Renge.

    Or maybe giving Lee sand armor.

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    Yeah that could be a wicked combination .. one way or the other, Kimimaro is probably gonna go down like a sack of moldy potatoes [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] The question is, how much of a fight can he put up?

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    RE: significant plot twists that turn out pointless

    it would be very ironic as well if gaara was to battle sasuke again....but this time both of them switching between good and evil
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    Personally, while I think that Gaara and Rock Lee double teaming ANYBODY is pretty much death in all ways considered, and should definately be regarded that way, I just don't get the feeling that Kishimoto is going to have them just DROP Kimi, because that would make him even more useless of a character (he exists only to make sure sasuke gets back to Orochimaru right? He's going to die of natural (or unnatural, depending on how you look at it) causes any time now. I imagine at best, Kishimoto is going to have Kimimaro put up a damn good fight. At worst, he'll ignore the fact that Gaara + Rock Lee just plain equals victory by all logical mathematical equations. I hope we don't see the latter happening.

    Anyways, moving the topic BACK TO WHERE IT STARTED somewhat, Assertn, we have yet to ascertain that Orochimaru's taking a new body is all that's required to return his strength. After all, remember, it was the SOUL'S arms that were cut off, so to speak. It would not surprise me if Orochimaru still needed healing in some way, or even less surprising, if his new body's arms started decaying like the last one's did, albeit at a slower rate. The fact that the body oro took looks surprisingly like Tsunade's brother might actually play some kind of part in this. Would Orochimaru be capable of deceiving Tsunade, were that the case? Probably not. But you know, that whole 'dying to seal orochimaru' thing might not be over yet. It's highly possible that the third's death was not in vain and that Orochimaru will be unable to use jutsus as effectively in short order, or even at all. I mean, when you think about it, the third already knew that Orochimaru could take other people's bodies, so I highly doubt he would have assumed that he ended the Orochimaru problem so easily unless there was more to it. At either rate, chopping off the soul's arms SHOULD give Orochimaru continued difficulty, so we'll see as time goes on.

    Speaking of plot twists, am I the only one who saw Temari and Shikamaru 'pairing up' yet again? She really seems like the take charge sort of lady to be to Shikamaru what Shikamaru's mom is to his father (that is, the one that wears the pants in the family ;P )

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    For those who are complaining about Rock Lee not getting enough time...

    Did you just all magically forget that Rock Lee has just come out of surgery?

    I certainly don't want a kid, strong and determined as he is, to get out of a hospital bed, run all the way to the spot, and fight one of Orochimaru's Elite Guard, and still manage a long fight without some sort of assistance.

    A one on one fight would have been terrible as in all likelihood, Lee would push himself again...and end up in the hospital...again.

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    RE: significant plot twists that turn out pointless

    well...if it happens that sealing oro's soul's arms caused oro to lose the vast majority of the jutsus he could perform and have to re-obtain them from scratch, then i'll be much happier about the whole thing. Otherwise it just seems to make no sense that he could just get his soul's arms back by taking another body
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    i dunno maybe he has to attach his souls armless soul to the new bodies soul in order for it too work, after all he is transfering his mind and soul into a new body so why all the sudden would he have new arms.

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    RE: significant plot twists that turn out pointless

    Originally posted by: Mut@t@
    bringing back lee as the heroic rescuer only to be saved by the one who ruined his shit in the first place is pretty pointless. i mean, leave that kid in the hospital, where he belongs. and i guess gaara will in story for longer now.
    heh, couldn't agree more

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    RE: significant plot twists that turn out pointless

    the hokage seemed like he knew what he was doing when he cut off oro's arms....considering the fact that he knew oro can perform the immortality jutsu.....
    so im thinking there still has to be some sort of permanent effect that the hokage had in mind when he decided to do that
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