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    Nah, I guess only people that have read the manga notice... tho I think its screwed up. I accidentally went into the Spoiler Naruto Discussion and found some information I didn't need to know, but it's kinda obvious....


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    I noticed back when someone "predicted" Naruto would face gaara and use gamabunta right after he learned how to use gamabunta. They have been doing that a ton, and it just gets annoying. I dont read the manga, but i can still tell when they are doing this.

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    This was actually a very funny scene [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

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    Yeah, I enjoyed that too. I liked this episode too, very suspenseful and dramatic. Although I do want to see some fighting, I thought the episode was good. You know, I'm curious as to know what's going on with Jiraya (I have no idea how to spell his name) and the others fighting in the village. I don't know, maybe they could've switched that in instead of the Orochimaru/Sarutobi fight, but oh well.....

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    One thing that's not so good as the other thing is the switching from gaara vs naruto to orochimaru and hokage, hokage battle has been going on since 66-67.. it would be better to have like one episode with 10-15 minutes of the orochimaru vs hokage fight then to have 30-40 sec clips in many eps [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img].

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    I liked the music they used when all those memories from Naruto take place, and that Kakashi part was kind of funny.

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    i´ve just finish watching the episode and reading all the posts.

    I like this episode, i feel pity for gaara, and i like to see naruto comparing himself with him... I like when sasuke realize this. It seems that they know each other very well..

    - I think falshbacks are very necesary and they are part of the show
    - Orochimaru / hokage, i´m tired, but it´s ok....
    - shikamaru with azuma???

    Next episodes will rock!!!

  8. #88

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    Come on now!! Orochimaru just needs to freakin die already!

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    Well here is my take on it all...Oro and Sarutobi the reason they probably keep flashing to it is because.. They either really want to so how much it hurts having a Sword stuck through you while pulling a soul out. Or just playing to watch the oldest guy in the anime go out in a blaze of glory!!!..Yea Yea Yea..The scene is important its liking flipping channels on the TV every time you pass it there hasnt been a change so you know that you havent missed anything..And besides I keep seeing the Shinegami. So I aint complaining!

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    Originally posted by: Mut@t@
    when i say this, i'm talking directly about the manga readers who come on to the naruto anime forum and 'act' like they are predicting random shit when, in fact, they already know what is gonna happen: what the fuck are you doing?

    am i the only one who notices that this happens often?
    i do, but i didnt notice any clear examples of that in this topic yet
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    Official Naruto 77 Discussion **SPOILERS**

    i think that the episode was alright. i'm the type of viewer who likes to watch the fighting but i can't complain when they show flashbacks. for EVERYONE that complains about flashbacks, you guys don't appreciate a good story/plot. you probably don't realize it but you want to watch the fighting so bad because they build it up so well and because of the flashbacks. Naruto became a lot better because the story got so deep. although if they just showed more fighting and less story it would be ok but not as good if they ended everything fast. that's just my opinion. they build up the fight to make it more meaningful and creates A LOT of suspense. that's why we love it so much...you have to find out what happens next. just like when you were little waiting every sat to watch your fav cartoon haha

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    The whole Oro and Kage thing is just to take up time. I think the flashbacks where good, they complete how Gaara went crazy. A little sad that he held such a grudge toward Gaara when it wasn't his fault. But then again goes for no one should of liked Naruto. I think the main reason why Naruto wants to kill him now is because he figured that is how he would of turned out like him.

    Narutos final saying was awesome "To him... only to him... I don't want to lose even if I die!" I LOVE IT!! Now is time for the fight. And from the preview at the end he summons the big frog, I forgot his name, I keep thinking its Gambino or something lol. That was so funny when he tried to do it at first and that little frog popped up, I almost fell on the floor laughing. That was such a comic relief for that episode. I hope that damn frog does something awesome.

    I hope after their fight, I get to see more of Kakashi and Gai!! Then the fight b/w oro and kage will end, but isn't the Hokage suppose to choose the next Hokage? If he dies, then who will get to choose the next one? I am reallly looking forward to the next one, this ep was okay, so the next one better be the BEST for making me this impatient to see a freaking FIGHT!!!!

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    I just watched this episode. I thought it was a pretty good episode... and the ending with the drum beating was pretty awesome.
    Can't wait until next week. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

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    I absolutely hate Yashamaru. He. is. a. bastard. You just don't SAY that to a child, especially one who has been abused like Gaara. If I were Yashamaru, I would have lied and said "Yes, I didn't want to kill you, Gaara, but they threatened me." Now look at what you have done....

    Why the heck doesn't Naruto tell Gaara about his lonliness?? I think that would help the situation, but Naruto seems determined to fight him. This makes NO sense at all, Naruto TALK to Gaara. >_< I feel so sorry for Gaara, I don't want people to kill him, I want someone to help him. T_T

    As for Oro and Hokage: Orochimaru, I have some advice for you: KILL THE MONKEY. You can control the sword right? So kill the monkey, or slice his hand off and then procede to finish the Hokage off. Ta da, you win, can we stop seeing you and the Hokage now? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

    PART#2 of Oro Vs. Hokage

    Hokage: Darn you! I will never fall!
    Oro: Dang it!!
    Death God: *Playing Metroid Zero Mission on Game Boy Advance* Oh sweet! I just sequence broke and got the Varia Suit before Kraid!
    Oro & Hokage: -_-;

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    I have a theory about Yashamaru: what if he were basically trying to kill himself by accepting the mission to kill Gaara? You can't be assigned to be the protector of the village's trump card without having more skills than a handful of thrown kunai and some explosive notes.

    My feeling is that Yashamaru genuinely tried to love Gaara, but his love for his sister and his hate for her murderer became so twisted up inside that he both loved and hated Gaara, and suffered so much from it that getting himself killed by Gaara was his only way out, the only way to end the pain.

    Now, why would he say something like that to Gaara? Perhaps he wanted to make Gaara hate the father and village that had created him as nothing but a monster to kill. (If that's the case, he did a damned good job.) Perhaps that was his form of revenge. I'm not sure.

    Any thoughts?

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    They also had "Sadness&Sorrow" for the first time since the wave country arc.

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    Originally posted by: LostAngel
    . And from the preview at the end he summons the big frog, I forgot his name, I keep thinking its Gambino or something lol.
    Funny you say that. Actually the name bunta part of Gama-Bunta, is the name of a Japanese actor who specializes on playing Japanese Mafia dons.
    Check the thread Jiraiya's head protector. There a link for a site called Paradise in Winter, where you can find the explanations for all the names.
    And Gama means toad.

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    I think this episode was great.. You whiners really should stop posting if you're gonna complain! COME ON.. it wont kill u to watch 5 second flashback even if it does repeat every episode. give them a break.. ur getting free anime and free subbing and everything. people are so immature. The characters are really what makes naruto so great so be a little mature or go pick another anime thats all fighting.

    ANYWAY I agree with you lasaire. Its hard to love someone who killed your sister.. Gaara's story is really sad =[ i love this episode. I actually really like flashbacks esp about Gaara. I think he decided to tell Gaara the truth before he died. He said he felt like he was cursing him..its so sad.. *sniffles* He really should have just lied to him though. Or just laid there pretending to be dead.. look at how Gaara turned out =[

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    Originally posted by: lasaire
    I have a theory about Yashamaru: what if he were basically trying to kill himself by accepting the mission to kill Gaara? You can't be assigned to be the protector of the village's trump card without having more skills than a handful of thrown kunai and some explosive notes.

    My feeling is that Yashamaru genuinely tried to love Gaara, but his love for his sister and his hate for her murderer became so twisted up inside that he both loved and hated Gaara, and suffered so much from it that getting himself killed by Gaara was his only way out, the only way to end the pain.

    Now, why would he say something like that to Gaara? Perhaps he wanted to make Gaara hate the father and village that had created him as nothing but a monster to kill. (If that's the case, he did a damned good job.) Perhaps that was his form of revenge. I'm not sure.

    Any thoughts?
    Well, he was really suicidal... then again, everybody in that village seems to be twisted. The Kage looks like a street bum, yet, eventually he covers his face and at home, doesn't let anybody look directly at his face.
    Baki with half a face covered also looks weird. I wonder if the other side also has Kabuki make-up. Funny thing, the guys on that village wear make-up, while the girls don't. Kankuro, who also wears make-up, BTW it's the name of a famous Kabuki player, wears that weird rat-eared hood... wonder if he wants to be Batman or something. Temari goes around with that huge fan... Good thing that we didn't meet more of them...
    Anyhow... I think Yashamaru said that on purpose, to screw up little Gaara's mind as a revenge against the kid himself *and* get revenge on the village.
    Maybe he also figured that if he managed make Gaara insane he'd be also destroying the *ace* of the sand, making all the Kaze's effords useless. Besides making the kid a time-bomb against the village.
    Another thing, though, maybe he wasn't that stupid or suicidal... nobody knew for sure how powerful Gaara was at that point... and *maybe* people thought that he'd be more vulnerable to somebody close to him (just trying to make Yasha less stupid here)
    Still, he might have been stupid, I mean, if he got to control Gaara, he could even get to be the Kage...he'd would become very powerful if he were able to fool the kid and gain his love and trust...
    Other thing, maybe he tried hard to love Gaara, but really couldn't. Also, well, I'd be pissed if the kid killed me and I don't think my last words would be oh, Gaar dear, I forgive you. Yasha had a lot going on inside of him and we know that there's a fine line between love and hate...I mean feelings are complex...
    Well, that's the beauty of it, we will *never* know what was inside Yasha's head...some times not even the author knows...

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    i thought this episode was pretty decent

    i agree with what lasaire said about the yashamaru/gaara hate thing, gaaras mother hated giving birth to gaara, also hating the village too. Yashamaru just told the truth, which caused gaara to hate everyone

    im wondering if naruto was told the truth at the beginning, what would happen?

    the little frog was pretty funny, its kinda wierd how naruto seems to forget about the kyubis chakra (im guessing he forgot, unless he purposly didnt want to use it)

    i was wondering about the thing on gaaras forehead, it seems like it was a wound that he caused to himself with the sand, it doesnt seem like a tatoo how they showed it

    cant wait for the next ep

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